Predictive programming in the music industry.

[Awoken2]

First of all just notice how the DM logo in the bottom right hand corner can easily be re-arranged into the Freemason inverted triangles symbol (square and compass)

Now let's look at how DM utilise allegory into their music. Below are the lyrics with my interpretation of the allegorical meaning.

Let me take you on a trip
Around the world and back
And you won't have to move
You just sit still

This is in regard to basic mind control method

Now let your mind do the walking
And let my body do the talking
Let me show you the world in my eyes

Sexual assault whilst under the mind control process

I'll take you to the highest mountain
To the depths of the deepest sea
And we won't need a map
Believe me

As above so below. You need to embrace your shadow. More on this here...

Now let my body do the moving
And let my hands do the soothing
Let me show you the world in my eyes

Whilst under mind control, as you are assaulted we can put our thoughts into your mind

That's all there is
Nothing more than you can feel now
That's all there is

This is simply part of the hypnotic process

Let me put you on a ship
On a long, long trip
Your lips close to my lips

Indicating the use of drugs in the process

All the islands in the ocean
All the heaven's in motion
Let me show you the world in my eyes

As above so below

That's all there is
Nothing more than you can touch now
That's all there is

Hypnosis tallk

Let me show you the world in my eyes

All is mind. We are able to put our thoughts into your mind. Referencing the minds eye, or third eye.

Depeche Mode use synonyms and allegory to convey their message. Always have always will. This is the reason they are one of the most commercially successful bands in the world for the last 40 years.

 

[Awoken2]

Now is a good time to revisit this video posted earlier in this thread.

A point I've already tried to make is that the higher you go up the Masonic order the more visible you are to everybody. A 33 degree Freemason operates in full view of the world, hidden from nobod, in plain sight.

Taking this into account it is important to understand why Gahan sings the word degree exactly at the 33 second mark in the song. This is not coincidence or accidental.

It's also important to note that at the 3 min mark there is a number displayed on tbe wall, the number 32...as you see this number Gahan sings the words "moving on". So to clarify, Gahan is stating that he, or his handler, are moving on from 32nd degree to 33 degree Freemason.

As disturbing as the imagery is in this video is it allows Gahan to display and visualise the entire process of initiation. From the hypnotic state of the girl with the knife to ritualistic torture that necessitates mind control and the drugs involved also.

You should be able to see this quite clearly by now.

 

[Awoken2]

MK ultra pretty much confirmed.

 

[Awoken2]

You gonna do a legit essay about Depeche Mode to coincide with their Hall of Fame induction?

No I don't think I will. Why don't you do one?...I'm very impressed with your creative writing

 

[Awoken2]

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Pearl Jam (slang for semen) playing their part in the NWO pushing the environmental destruction card, while throwing in what looks like DEW graphic effects. Also destruction of the bees or hive mind? Interesting images in the fire at the end. Is that Sirius shining (center) in the last shot?

I found it interesting that no one in the YouTube comment section commented on the video, just the song. Environmental fatigue or perhaps ghosting negative/woke commenters?

The new album "Gigaton" making reference to the amount of ice loss due to "Global Warming" and note that PJ still using the Eye/lighting bolt logo from 2013 on Vevo.

the "drop" at 0:13 made me shudder, since it was an obvious nod to an asteroid.

Good catch.

 

[Awoken2]

At this point in time I don't think going a little crazy will suffice to ensure we survive....I'd suggest full on mental.

Very creepy lyrics don't you think?

 

[Helioform]

Funny how you try to spread FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) with these videos. No other point in analyzing song lyrics and try to predict catastrophes with them. If it happens it happens otherwise it is just a waste of time. And a lot of artists like to sing about the apocalypse because it sells. It has been done to death.

 

[Awoken2]

Funny how you try to spread FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) with these videos. No other point in analyzing song lyrics and try to predict catastrophes with them. If it happens it happens otherwise it is just a waste of time. And a lot of artists like to sing about the apocalypse because it sells. It has been done to death.

I'm not the one making the video's am I? If you have no interest in the subject matter just exit the thread...simples.

 

[JustAMan]

Song writers (and Artists in general) are very good at publishing released content that can be related to or interpreted to in many ways. This level of relationship can be personal(to the artist), to the individual or it may be interpreted as social commentary or political / religious statements. From my experience, my creation process can often start as a result of an individual experience but as an intellectual act it I will sometimes make it "more accessible" to others.

Artists often layer their work in order to protect things which simple may be just too personal to speak of in a direct literal sense. The more successful an artist become in Pop culture the more commodification the art has to go through to sell to the masses. The process of an artist losing artistic control can result in many artists either (going underground, side projects etc), making their art so multi-layered it appears to be nonsense, or in some cases artist suffering personal trauma (a sell out etc).

 

[Helioform]

I've already scolded Awoken2 for his Jew-phobia, but I don't think he's wrong to fear that pop culture is transmitting messages from the occult elite. I mean, isn't that why we're all here? Uncertainty and doubt are the LEAST of Awoken2's problems. If anything the dude is way, way, way too certain and devoid of doubt about his theories and suspicions. I would sooner accuse him of spreading unwarranted certainty and conviction about fake astronauts, crisis actors, no-planes, Jews, etc.

But regardless, he's doing a service with this thread. If you don't think the occult elite are communicating (at least to each other, if not also trying to program us somehow) through their songbirds and wurlitzers of pop culture, about future schemes and disasters, then you're probably not paranoid enough. Imagine if this thread existed in 2000. Perhaps most of the evidence would have been junk, but what if someone was paranoid enough to suspect that, say, the Simpsons NY episode was transmitting a message about the World Trade Center, and then started looking for and detecting other similar messages through more and more pop culture, and concluded that 9/11 was going to happen? Since our corrupt intelligence agencies ignored a mountain of warnings, nothing probably could've stopped it, but maybe that paranoia still could've saved a few lives through word of mouth.

I'd much rather live in a world where this kind of thread exists than one where nobody is this paranoid. The asteroid thing is a real fear. Sagan warned us about it in the 70's. There are supposedly all sorts of redundant tech failsafes to prevent it, and all sorts of vetting to prevent psychos from infiltrating NASA, but I've read Black Swan, and I know how blind the biggest experts can be to improbabilities. If the elite is manufacturing pop culture with asteroid collision motifs, it's probably just a climate change metaphor meant to alarm us, but it might be something way, way more sinister. So I'll continue to appreciate the attention that Awoken2 pays to such things, and I'd even prefer a finer, more intense scrutiny that attempts to identify any future details the occult elite may be revealing under our noses.

That is the problem though, he is sure that these events will occur. Which in turns spreads uncertainty about the future in general. Most of the stuff posted are only interpretations of lyrics that can go in whichever direction the listener wants. There is absolutely no way to know what will happen, you can only go back after an event occurs and cherrypick lyrics that seem to fit the picture.

As for the asteroid, it might happen one day. We just don't know when. The idea that they can or will guide an asteroid to fall on this planet is just stupid though. Nobody on this planet has that kind of technology. Aliens though? Maybe. But who says that this planet isn't protected in some way by other species? You can't assume that just because some artist decided to put some lyrics about a big asteroid falling on Earth, that it is going to happen. And even if that is planned, just what the hell are you going to do? You can't do anything about it. Going mental or crazy is exactly what awoken2 wants you to do, which makes me suspicious of his motives. And NASA is made up of individuals just like you and me, who are working on programs to prevent this kind of tragedy. The idea that they are only interested in harming humans would be ridiculous. Nobody knows who this "elite" is anyway which is a bogeyman term for anyone who seems to have more power or influence than them.

So yes you can be too paranoid, which this thread is about. Fear and helplessness.

 

[Helioform]

"Nobody on this planet has that kind of technology."

Wrong.

Look up the current OSIRIS and DART missions. The technology to deflect asteroids has just arrived. So any hints of an asteroid collision in pop culture are especially relevant right now. You realize there are people who are so disgusted with humanity for climate change that they think it's a good idea to wipe out the human species, right? A lot of those people are scientists, some of them quite accomplished. So it's not far-fetched that one or more of these anthropicidal misanthropes got jobs at NASA. Not sure exactly how, but it's possible that a secret tweak here or there could redirect the asteroid to earth and not give the rest of NASA enough time to correct the sabotage once discovered. What can schmucks like us do about it? Research every member of the mission, find out if any have misanthropic views, and alert the authorities who may not be paranoid enough themselves to realize the risk, who may be too confident that it could never happen, like you are. If such a misanthrope is discovered and the authorities don't take it seriously, then doxxing is always an option, to the point of driving the person off the mission or drawing enough attention from the rest of the team that no secret shenanigans would be possible.

"Find out if any have misanthropic views."

Lol like they would advertise that.

If it is supposed to be secret then there is nothing we can do about it. And cherrypicking lyrics to try and find hints of upcoming catastrophes serves no purpose at all other than to instill fear. Which is my whole point.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Song writers (and Artists in general) are very good at publishing released content that can be related to or interpreted to in many ways. This level of relationship can be personal(to the artist), to the individual or it may be interpreted as social commentary or political / religious statements. From my experience, my creation process can often start as a result of an individual experience but as an intellectual act it I will sometimes make it "more accessible" to others.

Artists often layer their work in order to protect things which simple may be just too personal to speak of in a direct literal sense. The more successful an artist become in Pop culture the more commodification the art has to go through to sell to the masses. The process of an artist losing artistic control can result in many artists either (going underground, side projects etc), making their art so multi-layered it appears to be nonsense, or in some cases artist suffering personal trauma (a sell out etc).

I really like the song but the video is near impossible to watch, and not just because of the crazy editing. It looks like an alphabet agency production...just loaded with MK imagery and subliminal messages.

 

[JustAMan]

That is the problem though, he is sure that these events will occur. Which in turns spreads uncertainty about the future in general. Most of the stuff posted are only interpretations of lyrics that can go in whichever direction the listener wants. There is absolutely no way to know what will happen, you can only go back after an event occurs and cherrypick lyrics that seem to fit the picture.

As for the asteroid, it might happen one day. We just don't know when. The idea that they can or will guide an asteroid to fall on this planet is just stupid though. Nobody on this planet has that kind of technology. Aliens though? Maybe. But who says that this planet isn't protected in some way by other species? You can't assume that just because some artist decided to put some lyrics about a big asteroid falling on Earth, that it is going to happen. And even if that is planned, just what the hell are you going to do? You can't do anything about it. Going mental or crazy is exactly what awoken2 wants you to do, which makes me suspicious of his motives. And NASA is made up of individuals just like you and me, who are working on programs to prevent this kind of tragedy. The idea that they are only interested in harming humans would be ridiculous. Nobody knows who this "elite" is anyway which is a bogeyman term for anyone who seems to have more power or influence than them.

So yes you can be too paranoid, which this thread is about. Fear and helplessness.

Doesn't the unique configuration of our solar system (Sun, Jupiter) protect us from the vast amount of cosmic debris lurking around? It is one of the arguments in favour of such theories such as "Fine Tuning Universe" and "Real Earth Hypothesis" argument. Such arguments are often contextually stated that that the probabilities that there is a universal creator are somewhat greater than that would require a negation of the "Real Earth Hypothsis". A counter response is the multi-universe explanation. In an infinite number of universes (multiverse) the probability of an Earth being created somewhere is 1...however...so too thou would an intelligent creator may also be lurking. So the same logic which uses probability on an infinite scale (probability theory does not scale to the infinite) to reason away an intelligent creator forgets that the subject matter is not important (Earth=Creator same thing).

 

[Awoken2]

I don't see what's creepy about the lyrics. They seem to be celebrating the end of the USSR. T

How do they seem to be celebrating the end of the USSR? Can you just show me the line in tbe song which implicates Russian involvement? A quick search on Wiki tells us....

Seal wrote "Crazy" in 1990 inspired by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989. In 2015, Seal said of the song's conception in 1990: "I felt the cycle had reached its apex. I felt the world changing and I felt profound things happening."[2]

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Otherwise it actually seems like an inspiring song, especially for this forum. Few realize how insane the world is, so only us paranoid freaks are crazy enough to figure out the truth.

So you are you suggesting this song fit's into the category of counter culture?

Just take a look at his other video for the song. Take note that he again shows the single eye. What do you think this represents?

To me personally the whole video wreeks more of voodoo magik than it does of waking the masses.

 

[Awoken2]

Three good examples here of counter culture. If you pay close attention you will notice that all of these "artists" appear to be inciting some type of public revolution. They are apparently projecting the idea that we need to rise up against authority because the system we live in is unfair. What they are in fact doing is what @Helioform has accused me of doing here which is spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt about the world in which we live.

I'm experiencing functionality problems here at the min so I'll have to post the examples one at a time on edit.

My point being do you really think that the people who ultimately control these artists output are not part of the control system? Do you think these bands/artists have successfully managed to navigate through years and years of commercial success without being influenced or controlled by TPTB?

One thing you must surely know about the music business is that you don't get NO elevated platform UNLESS you are pushing the agenda.

This is pretty basic knowledge or would you argue that.point?

 

[elsbet]

Hmm. Enough to raise an eyebrow. But from what I understand the patches are like sports team mascots. Silly fantasies. When I say tangible occult ties, I mean actual membership in a Masonic lodge, or a record of transhumanist/posthumanist advocacy, or attending an end-times fundamentalist church, or satanic activity.

They put a masonic flag on the "moon."

That was in 1969.

 

[JustAMan]

I really like the song but the video is near impossible to watch, and not just because of the crazy editing. It looks like an alphabet agency production...just loaded with MK imagery and subliminal messages.

"Subliminal" techniques - the clip is actually trying to parody. When you listen to the lyrics alongside the video the theme is that the clip is giving examples (via exaggeration) of what the media messages convey.

If anything the clip is an expose of such "MK imagery and subliminal messages." not an endorsement. It was made years before "Alphabet" existed. MaxQ initially started as an underground project of Michael Hutchence from INXS and was not subject to the same bullshit record company rules of INXS.

Occult symbolism (like horror movies) sell in popular culture. It is counter culture, against the norm and has a long history in rock and roll and more so in heavy metal. As a marketing channel it has value and its manifestation into Pop music is just a process of learning from the pre-mentioned genres.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

If anything the clip is an expose of such "MK imagery and subliminal messages." not an endorsement. MaxQ initially started as an underground project of Michael Hutchence from INXS and was not subject to the same bullshit record company rules of INXS.

I'm quite familiar with Michael's side project MaxQ. I owned the CD at some point many years ago as I am/was a big INXS fan.
I wouldn't call the video a parody of that particular style, but that's irrelevant. I don't trust any video using that editing technique, especially if someone thinks its done with good intentions.

It was made years before "Alphabet" existed.

You may be thinking of another "Alphabet" agency. The agency I'm referring to is the CIA, which have been around since Project Paperclip post WW2.

Occult symbolism (like horror movies) sell in popular culture. It is counter culture, against the norm and has a long history in rock and roll and more so in heavy metal. As a marketing channel it has value and its manifestation into Pop music is just a process of learning from the pre-mentioned genres.

Occult symbolism in video has much more meaning than just being a marketing tool. This is the VC forum after all and there are many here that are quite astute at reading between the lines.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Awoken2]

I've already scolded Awoken2 for his Jew-phobia,

Genuine lol.......scolded?.....really?

I would sooner accuse him of spreading unwarranted certainty and conviction about fake astronauts,

It ain't me spreading anything. It may have (but probably didn't) escaped your attention that it is in fact a group of OT evangelicals who are spreading this.

Why would you think a group of people who believe that we all have to die for being sinners are trying to promote this type of material?

This question was asked on my When Religion And Conspiracy Theories Collide thread before it got derailed by the usual OT evangelical Zionists who post here daily.

I'm not making up stories about fake astronauts, these people are....go give them a free psychological profiling like you have with me.