When Religion And Conspiracy Theories Collide.

Awoken2

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We have some whack ass people here with some really strange views or a take on religion that have maybe 0.001 % or less of people agreeing with their fantastical take, meaning they are outliers to the norm, not to mention full of ridiculous deception.
The fact that Lisa just liked this comment just made me spit out a mouthful of coffee. It may be a cliche.

Where do I send the dry cleaning bill Lisa?
 
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You seem to have a problem with strong opinions...are you sure forum life is for you?.. it's not sounding much fun from your end.
Idk.. I agree with @The Zone -- and I think a lot of us do-- prosperity preachers like Osteen, Warren and Copeland are liars. The latter two are fusing religion & politics (and a lot of outright bs) in their so-called ministries. It's a damnable shame, considering the influence they have... but that is the point. Not all, however, are deceived. Just saying. :)
 

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To each their own with concern to beliefs, but do not act like your version of the truth fits
I'm simply just trying to make people think.

As you can see I'm only impeded by posters here who are trying to stop people from thinking and start doing a lot of praying.

I'm only advising against that, I have a right to give advice. People can either take it or leave it. That's how life works.

You've spent quite a considerable amount of time on this forum standing behind mainstream narratives and defending Trump....on a conspiracy forum.

...hmmmmm
 

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Let me ask the OP question in a slightly different way.

Why is God trying to scare everybody shitless?

Huge fires, earthquakes , volcanoes, impeding war, passing asteroids and devastating weather. People all over the world on varying levels are all feeling ONE thing.


And why do OT bible prophesies ALL happen to predict what's now laughed at on here as conspiracy theory?

In fact the OT believers here seem to want to convince you that it's all Gods plan....so just pray...and wait...and do nothing.

Not good advice I'd say.
I wonder who coined the phrase "Let's put the fear of God into them".

I may Google that later. Lol
 

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Idk.. I agree with @The Zone -- and I think a lot of us do-- prosperity preachers like Osteen, Warren and Copeland are liars. The latter two are fusing religion & politics (and a lot of outright bs) in their so-called ministries. It's a damnable shame, considering the influence they have... but that is the point. Not all, however, are deceived. Just saying. :)
There are some very powerful people currently dismantling religion from the inside. It's well and truly subverted. This forum.proves that. They cannot agree on anything, and that is how it is supposed to be.

I get accused of hating religious people, that is wrong, you can believe what you want but don't come in a conspiracy forum stating there is only one side to the story (the bible)

...because that's just silly.
 

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I stand behind no mainstream narratives and bristle when accused of such. But certain policies will be in place with who wins or lose elections. While there is in some sense two sides of the same coin, the ways in which we will live for years has something to do with which side wins. The quality of life always comes into play with these decisions as well.

And please, answer some of the tougher questions I ask.

I have a unique vantage over some in that I have seen some things which altered my reality and showed me how helpless we are in our collective herds. While I cannot go too deep into those experiences, it makes some arguments I see here seem fruitless. Knowing what I know and what has certainly had to come about since a time when I realized how tech has far surpassed what many see in their daily lives. It is as if there are two worlds - one we see and one which is just underground - literally.

But this is also why I am spiritual for everything ties into it from what I have witnessed. Tech controls us and it is the harbinger of the change many want or that is coming.

So, strong opinions only bother me when I see someone going down a rabbit hole with a dead end.

I will stand by my comment Orwell took offense to as well. Politics and opinions greatly squelch any change or objectionable discussions here IMHO. It is the same people taking the same sides of arguments every single thread. It is ridiculously clear to see with the silly like feature and who defends whom. People accept certain posters warts provided they are saying things they wish they could or that they want to hear.

If poster A takes a shot at poster B, they are okay in their book and give a like despite that whatever that statement was is one of the only things they agree on or have in common. People ignore what they want to in favor of how they think discussions should go, meaning they drive conversations with "that a boy," support. Until we all equally call out our own so to speak, the dividing gap will widen.
 
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Let me ask the OP question in a slightly different way.

Why is God trying to scare everybody shitless?

Huge fires, earthquakes , volcanoes, impeding war, passing asteroids and devastating weather. People all over the world on varying levels are all feeling ONE thing.


And why do OT bible prophesies ALL happen to predict what's now laughed at on here as conspiracy theory?

In fact the OT believers here seem to want to convince you that it's all Gods plan....so just pray...and wait...and do nothing.

Not good advice I'd say.
If it is God’s plan...do you think you could really change it?

Ya, the Bible does talk about the conditions that will happen in the end times, which won’t be able to be changed because they are prophetic. The one thing you can do if you are afraid of what’s coming is believe in Jesus and be saved. Then as you pray God changes you and your thinking and uses you in His plans. There is the change that you are hoping for.
 

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I stand behind no mainstream narratives and bristle when accused of such. But certain policies will be in place with who wins or lose elections. While there is in some sense two sides of the same coin, the ways in which we will live for years has something to do with which side wins. The quality of life always comes into play with these decisions as well.

And please, answer some of the tougher questions I ask.

I have a unique vantage over some in that I have seen some things which altered my reality and showed me how helpless we are in our collective herds. While I cannot go too deep into those experiences, it makes some arguments I see here seem fruitless. Knowing what I know and what has certainly had to come about since a time when I realized how tech has far surpassed what many see in their daily lives. It is as if there are two worlds - one we see and one which is just underground - literally.

But this is also why I am spiritual for everything ties into it from what I have witnessed. Tech controls us and it is the harbinger of the change many want or that is coming.

So, strong opinions only bother me when I see someone going down a rabbit hole with a dead end.

I will stand by my comment Orwell took offense to as well. Politics and opinions greatly squelch any change or objectionable discussions here IMHO. It is the same people taking the same sides of arguments every single thread. It is ridiculously clear to see with the silly like feature and who defends whom. People accept certain posters warts provided they are saying things they wish they could or that they want to hear. If poster A takes a shot at poster B, they are okay in their book and give a like despite that whatever that statement was is one of the only things they agree on or have in common. People ignore what they want to in favor of how they think discussions should go, meaning they drive conversations with "that a boy," support.
It would be nice if you could talk about the things you’ve seen rather than constantly say you’ve seen things...it’s rather frustrating in that we know you won’t talk about them but keep bringing it up.
 

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Well, if you look through the Homeless Epidemic thread and reread your posts in there, it's basically the antithesis of that. :cool:
I want the homeless to get better and not be homeless...I think that’s the difference between me and the people that perpetuate a problem and just feed them...
 

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It would be nice if you could talk about the things you’ve seen rather than constantly say you’ve seen things...it’s rather frustrating in that we know you won’t talk about them but keep bringing it up.
If you worked on something you were not supposed to speak of and had a family to raise you would understand. The truth would mean my life.
 

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If you worked on something you were not supposed to speak of and had a family to raise you would understand. The truth would mean my life.
O sure, that I understand but to continually to vaguely talk about it is irritating.
 

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And you are not irritating, Lisa? Your lack of compassion with comments at times reflects on other Christians and makes it harder to navigate here. Feel free to add something here with some meat on the bones or not just a personal peeve or sentence. Feel free to use the ignore feature if necessary or move on to trolling Christians as well.
 

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And you are not irritating, Lisa? Your lack of compassion with comments at times reflects on other Christians and makes it harder to navigate here. Feel free to add something here with some meat on the bones or not just a personal peeve or sentence. Feel free to use the ignore feature if necessary and or move on to trolling Christians as well.
Why take offence at what I’ve said? It is irritating to hear you talk about knowing something we don’t know and you can’t share it with us. I get it but to constantly repeat is coming off as boasting.

Sure, I know I’m not well liked here..but that doesn’t seem to stop other Christians from saying what they want.
 

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Boasting? There is nothing to boast about in this situation.

Okay. You dig up where I have constantly spoken of it in my 2093 posts.

I will give you a cookie if you come up with enough posts as you say that is above .05%
 

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Okay. You dig up where I have constantly spoken of it in my 2093 posts.

I will give you a cookie if you come up with enough posts as you say that is above .05% You are being dishonest, Lisa.
So far you’ve spoken about in 3 or 4 posts in this thread..which is what I’m talking about.

I like chocolate chip cookies the best :)
 

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So far you’ve spoken about in 3 or 4 posts in this thread..which is what I’m talking about.

I like chocolate chip cookies the best :)
Then you more or less point to your own deception Lisa in that I have no history other than a single post not in this thread talking about it yet you clearly implied that as being the case. You trolled me whether you realize it or not and I am thinking you do,

Honestly, I have never gotten past you trashing a former member who died, saying hateful things about them in the forum after their passing. It showed your lack of empathy and that your form of Christianity is nothing I recognize. I do not see you bearing fruit that is plain to see, so maybe a little self-inventory is in order for all true Christians to realize they need this on occasion.

And I can see the comedy A2 and another poster were speaking of here.
 
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Then you more or less point to your own deception Lisa in that I have no history other than a single post not in this thread talking about it.

You're a trolls, troll and your dislike from other members is a sign.

Honestly, I have never gotten past you trashing a former member who died, saying hateful things about them in the forum after their passing. It showed your lack of empathy and that your form of Christianity is nothing I recognize. I do not see you bearing fruit that is plain to see, so maybe a little self-inventory is in order for all true Christians to realize they need this on occasion.
I don’t see why you are getting all worked up here...you have posted about it 3 or 4 times in this thread and when you talk about it you always say but I can’t say more. We get it, why continue to bring it up then? That’s the irritating part.


I’m not a troll. I just say what I think..it’s a forum that’s what people do on a forum.

So that’s your problem with me? I don’t remember saying hateful things, I just didn’t see him as the good guy just because he died..he wasn’t a nice guy.

Maybe take your own advice about self inventory here?
 

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You're a hoot. You have your ways which are unlike any other members have come across. You again cannot see the forest for the trees in that you even go as far as to PM me to ask more before getting pithy about me not sharing something. In a sense, you prove a point that some could not handle what they do not see on the surface well, so why blow up their world view and confuse them further?

You are the one who kept bringing up posts in this thread yet you inferred in a dishonest and unprovable way that I spoke of the matter all the time and then you fail to own that you elicited responses on the matter. That is deception and Christians are not about deception.

You seem to get some sort of endorphin hit irritating people, but no more for me, for I will ignore any further discussion on your personal issue of demanding information despite the consequences. Get over it.

To clarify, yes I said I would not speak of it at this time. Yes, I said I could not talk about it again when you sent me a PM the other day asking. And yes, I am only talking about this because of your personal hang-up with wanting to know all and keeping the conversation going which in turn sidetracked this thread.
 
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You're a hoot. You have your ways which are unlike any other members have come across. You again cannot see the forest for the trees in that you even go as far as to PM me to ask more before getting pithy about me not sharing something. In a sense, you prove a point that some could not handle what they do not see on the surface well, so why blow up their world view and confuse them further?

You are the one who kept bringing up posts in this thread yet you inferred in a dishonest and unprovable way that I spoke of the matter all the time and then you fail to own that you elicited responses on the matter. That is deception and Christians are not about deception.

You seem to get some sort of endorphin hit irritating people, but no more for me, for I will ignore any further discussion on your personal issue of demanding information despite the consequences. Get over it.

To clarify, yes I said I would not speak of it at this time. Yes, I said I could not talk about it again when you sent me a PM the other day asking. And yes, I am only talking about this because of your personal hang-up with wanting to know all and keeping the conversation going which in turn sidetracked this thread.
I am starting to think you’re not truthful Zone..it looks as if you edited out all the talk about knowing mind blowing stuff but you can’t edit Awoken’s posts. You started talking about it on Thursday. I pm’d you about more than that..and you know it... but did ask about it at 3:30 on Thursday. After I saw you talking to Awoken. He even replies
As far as all the top secret stuff, don't utter another word about it. For your own safety.
And I didn’t continue to ask about it, I said ok I understand why you can’t share the info like I told you again today. However...stop talking about it if you can’t share details because that makes you look boastful and it is irritating.
 
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