Awoken2
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Couldn't agree more.Well... it's all controlled. Both sides.
Terrifying isn't it?
Couldn't agree more.Well... it's all controlled. Both sides.
Always has been-- but the older I get, the more I realize I never really thought it would get this far, in my lifetime. I was tuned in, though, when I was still a kid (before the internets were literally everywhere).Couldn't agree more.
Terrifying isn't it?
Old material but a good refresher. Not sure why they slipped in a part about cultural marxism but whatever. I'm saying "old" as in like 2005 or something. I'm sure many here have known about the US Federal reserve, Zio-Rothschilds, the architecture of Washington, (the name Columbia wasn't mentioned but is notable), Freemason presidents and historical figures etc., even years before the popular internet.So the reason why our resident Christian Zionists want you to believe in their bible prophecy and not learn anything about the real conspiracy is laid out here.
At this point you should be more concerned with Luciferean psycopaths than Gods wrath.
It also answers the question why the likes of Lisa here portray christianity as a mental health issue. There job is to destroy christianity to help usher in their new (age) world order.
Well at least one person here understands my frustrations. Thanks for getting across what I didn't manage to.Old material but a good refresher. Not sure why they slipped in a part about cultural marxism but whatever. I'm saying "old" as in like 2005 or something. I'm sure many here have known about the US Federal reserve, Zio-Rothschilds, the architecture of Washington, (the name Columbia wasn't mentioned but is notable), Freemason presidents and historical figures etc., even years before the popular internet.
What I gather from your post is that if in 2020 someone hasn't even investigated the base level conspiracy 101 topics... they're a tool. There's a few here still waving the flag of AmerKKKa, cheer-leading endless wars, supporting perverse figures like Drumph, Netenyahu, and Johnson, while posting sermons from Jerry Falwell and links to Rothschild owned Reuters News or Daily Mail. They talk about homosexuality and abortion while their murdering "Christian" nation has been involved in 100's of military operations terrorizing the world. I say get educated or go hang at an Evangelical site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States
Would you admit that conflating American inconsistencies and shortcomings with Christianity is an example of Genetic Fallacy?Old material but a good refresher. Not sure why they slipped in a part about cultural marxism but whatever. I'm saying "old" as in like 2005 or something. I'm sure many here have known about the US Federal reserve, Zio-Rothschilds, the architecture of Washington, (the name Columbia wasn't mentioned but is notable), Freemason presidents and historical figures etc., even years before the popular internet.
What I gather from your post is that if in 2020 someone hasn't even investigated the base level conspiracy 101 topics... they're a tool. There's a few here still waving the flag of AmerKKKa, cheer-leading endless wars, supporting perverse figures like Drumph, Netenyahu, and Johnson, while posting sermons from Jerry Falwell and links to Rothschild owned Reuters News or Daily Mail. They talk about homosexuality and abortion while their murdering "Christian" nation has been involved in 100's of military operations terrorizing the world. I say get educated or go hang at an Evangelical site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States
I was about to reply to Awoken that IMO balance is necessary. What sets VC apart is his expression of faith while exposing the ills of society. I bet most of us joined partly because of our shared interest in spirituality, at least a familiarity with its themes.Would you admit that conflating American inconsistencies and shortcomings with Christianity is an example of Genetic Fallacy?
Would you further admit that you are suggesting that people with a a conspiratorial mindset are intellectually superior than people who give credence to the idea of divine inspiration of the Bible?
Would you admit that conflating American inconsistencies and shortcomings with Christianity is an example of Genetic Fallacy?
Would you further admit that you are suggesting that people with a a conspiratorial mindset are intellectually superior than people who give credence to the idea of divine inspiration of the Bible?
"So yeah Christianity in the West is in need of deep reforms to bring about the spirit of God."I was about to reply to Awoken that IMO balance is necessary. What sets VC apart is his expression of faith while exposing the ills of society. I bet most of us joined partly because of our shared interest in spirituality, at least a familiarity with its themes.
No one's trying to destroy faith, but we should all be searching to have our world-views challenged. It's like @AspiringSoul said, we learn new things every year, our minds are always changing.
Obviously I'm angry about what I consider to be the failings of Christianity, which I can only speak of from my experience within the US. We've read some of each other's posts, you know my vibe. I loathe capitalism, banks, billionaires, illegal wars, exploitation and meanness in general. It's impossible to to share the same christology and eschatology as John Bolton and be on the road to heaven. So yeah Christianity in the West is in need of deep reforms to bring about the spirit of God. If 4 billion total Christians and Muslims were to unite there could be mass (righteous) transformation on the planet. (We also know who would like to keep us divided)
More is expected out of those declaring spiritual wisdom. By purifying our minds and body we gain clearness and, as the Bible says, knowledge of ALL THINGS. It's not about having a conspiratorial mindset, just an open mind. There are some simple truths of what is good and what is evil, and these are the beginner-basics to every religious tradition. It's shocking there isn't more agreement of our basic principles. Some of us are acting out, crying for unity. Hopefully we can find some type of common ground and build from there.
I wish ancient statues like that could be enforced. Mandatory kindness lol. My hope is for masses of people to hold our leaders/elected officials accountable. @bible_student started a thread about the 501c designation of churches. The church gives up their right to be involved politically, all to save on taxes. "Filthy lucre" as is said. It's common knowledge the Protestant base in the US is the reason Drumph was elected; we can't stop railing against this type of hypocrisy."So yeah Christianity in the West is in need of deep reforms to bring about the spirit of God."
Do you think a return to the Jubilee Year standard would help?
Id enjoy seeing some of these "prosperity doctrine" snake-oil salesmen explain how the Prince of Peace himself had it all wrong lolI wish ancient statues like that could be enforced. Mandatory kindness lol. My hope is for masses of people to start holding our leaders/elected officials accountable. @bible_student started a thread about the 501c designation of churches. The church gives up their right to be involved politically, all to save on taxes. "Filthy lucre" as is said. It's common knowledge the Protestant base in the US is the reason Drumph was elected; we can't stop railing against this type of hypocrisy.
I think on these boards, most of us are trying to get to the truth, despite their religious beliefs. There are some that claim to be religious but don’t seem to care about the state of humanity in any way, shape or form. I think that’s what Awoken is trying to figure out. If religion is giving the middle finger to certain individuals, why does one practice a faith that appears to hate or seem apathetic to parts of humanity? This could be my perception of religion but it would be my guess that the faith you follow brings you closer to God and your fellow man, NOT farther away. If you’re in a part of the world that the TPTB want control due to its natural resources and location, we get posts and posts of bible passages attempting to justify the horrific events in that region. Personally, I think it’s sad and an intellectually lazy stance, but to each their own.Some are mixing politics and religion now. Not an elixir for truth.
Agree to an extent. I would like to think that ALL TV preachers should be seen with a side-eye and skepticism, however, there are some on here that will again, justify what it is he and his ilk might say because it makes them feel good and there's no cognitive dissonance, perhaps? It should be a known anyone who preaches on television to deliver “Christianity Inc.” only does so, being approved by the TPTB.As for prosperity preachers mentioned, no real Christian has an issue if they are exposed to the polluted false doctrines they teach. I know a lot of people who think they are well to do Christians and with a Joel Osteen approach to life who do not realize how far they are from the truth.
I completely disagree and also take offence. Seeing what the current “conservative” views have done where I live, I’ll pass as they stand for arrogant ignorance, all for corporate welfare, sticking it to middle class while simultaneously gutting it. Added to the fact they DO NOT like people to be further educated and/or have the ability to afford it, the conservatives could simply agree to disagree but that doesn’t seem to be the case because they want and appear to thrive on division because it weakens communities. Speaking of which, when you’re calling “sides”, you’re letting us know this is how you view the world and that’s through a lens of polarization. I think any political party that would allow an individual to be the best version of who they can be would be the ultimate “party”, but we know that doesn’t exist, and I get the sense there’s an unlikelihood that it ever will.And no offense to anyone, but the liberal takes herein are out of place as always but a part of some people's agenda in ALL discussions.
Yeah, there’s a lot of stuff on here that people can skim through and don’t need to read as there are people on here with different motives and intentions. Anyone with a critical mindset and knows who’s and what’s at the top of all the suffering and creating chaos in the world, and as Todd stated, we can do what we can to make the change we can in our own corner of it.The nonstop shots at the same old folks are telling when the subject has nothing to do with it. Also, anyone can call themself a bible student while in actuality trying to deceive those into thinking they are a Christian when in fact they want to lead them astray. We have some whack ass people here with some really strange views or a take on religion that have maybe 0.001 % or less of people agreeing with their fantastical take, meaning they are outliers to the norm, not to mention full of ridiculous deception.
To each their own with concern to beliefs, but do not act like your version of the truth fits all.
I would say that faith should bring you closer to God. What do you mean by closer to your fellow man?This could be my perception of religion but it would be my guess that the faith you follow brings you closer to God and your fellow man, NOT farther away.
No doubt..they should!I would like to think that ALL TV preachers should be seen with a side-eye and skepticism
"Evangelical" has become a bit of a misnomer.Old material but a good refresher. Not sure why they slipped in a part about cultural marxism but whatever. I'm saying "old" as in like 2005 or something. I'm sure many here have known about the US Federal reserve, Zio-Rothschilds, the architecture of Washington, (the name Columbia wasn't mentioned but is notable), Freemason presidents and historical figures etc., even years before the popular internet.
What I gather from your post is that if in 2020 someone hasn't even investigated the base level conspiracy 101 topics... they're a tool. There's a few here still waving the flag of AmerKKKa, cheer-leading endless wars, supporting perverse figures like Drumph, Netenyahu, and Johnson, while posting sermons from Jerry Falwell and links to Rothschild owned Reuters News or Daily Mail. They talk about homosexuality and abortion while their murdering "Christian" nation has been involved in 100's of military operations terrorizing the world. I say get educated or go hang at an Evangelical site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States
You seem to have a problem with strong opinions...are you sure forum life is for you?.. it's not sounding much fun from your end.Some are mixing politics and religion now. Not an elixir for truth. As for prosperity preachers mentioned, no real Christian has an issue if they are exposed to the polluted false doctrines they teach. I know a lot of people who think they are well to do Christians and with a Joel Osteen approach to life who do not realize how far they are from the truth.
And no offense to anyone, but the liberal takes herein are out of place as always but a part of some people's agenda in ALL discussions. The nonstop shots at the same old folks are telling when the subject has nothing to do with it. Also, anyone can call themself a bible student while in actuality trying to deceive those into thinking they are a Christian when in fact they want to lead them astray. We have some whack ass people here with some really strange views or a take on religion that have maybe 0.001 % or less of people agreeing with their fantastical take, meaning they are outliers to the norm, not to mention full of ridiculous deception.
To each their own with concern to beliefs, but do not act like your version of the truth fits all.
You are bang on tbe money with this OM so thanks for saying it.think on these boards, most of us are trying to get to the truth, despite their religious beliefs. There are some that claim to be religious but don’t seem to care about the state of humanity in any way, shape or form. I think that’s what Awoken is trying to figure out.
I love the comedy posters to. Ohhh the fun!This could turn into a comedy thread. This is the most I’ve laughed on this site.
Well, if you look through the Homeless Epidemic thread and reread your posts in there, it's basically the antithesis of that.What do you mean by closer to your fellow man?