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Thunderian

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Reports that Iran has launched missile attacks against several US bases in Iraq from their own bases within Iran. If that is all true, there is no doubt the US will hit targets within Iran very soon.
This was assuming, of course, that Iran was trying to kill Americans in the attacks. Clearly, that was not the case.
 

Thunderian

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If you knew anything about Iran you'd know that would strenghthen them. And good for you, cheering trump's threat on Isis like actions (destrying historic landmarks is part ISIL's mo)
Read my posts, and read yours. I didn’t cheer anything on. You, on the other hand, have been gleefully promising terror attacks on America and her friends. Don’t try and make me seem like the asshole you are.
 

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about Canadian citizens in plane. I think lots of them were Iranian students in Canada universities. they were in Iran for xmas Holidays.



I read that they are going to share the black box information with Ukraine and others Involved
 

Aazaad

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"... Cyrus medal—and an Ahasuerus medal too."- Laurent Guyenot
Are those actual medal names? Ironic

Ayatollah says damp squib revenge raid for Soleimani's assassination is 'not enough' after Iran ineffectually fires 22 ballistic missiles at two US bases in Iraq - but fails to kill anyone
Ain al Assad was hit with 13, very "efectually", another base in Irbil was hit with 2. Death toll 80, more than 200 injured, almost all equipments destroyed, while the drones were hacked and irresponsive.

...at least you our troops don’t r*pe little girls wherever they go
Like hell they don't

What started all these tensions to begin with? Pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and imposing crippling sanctions
No, it's the US military's adventurism which trump continued, that "deal" was pretty much dead on arrival, non of the western sides kept their end of the bargain, and the frozen funds Obama released to Iran, had nothing to do with this deal, it was in compensation for the release of Iranian-American spy Jason Rezaian

This is supposed to help your arguement? An Iraqi traitor is killed by Iraqis defending themselves from US invasion, and Iran is blamed. All the trademarks of US invasion (including the one that created it) excuse, except this time, you don't know who you're messing with.

If Israel has problems with Iran, let them deal with it themselves. I don't like how they try to get us involved through intensive lobbying.
US was made, by european countries, to support "Israel", which wasn't made in a day.

Anyone have any guesses why, if all Trump wants is war, he didn’t use yesterday’s attacks on US forces as an excuse to level Iran, or at least strike back?
Because he can't, because every point of interest for US, all around the world, can be hit by someone, and not all of them despise WMDs.

It’s looking more and more like Iran shot down a Ukrainian airliner, killing 63 Canadians along with the rest of the passengers. As a Canadian of Ukrainian descent, I’d like a ruling on whether or not a campaign of terror against Iranians worldwide is justified.
There were only 6 Iranian (or maybe Afghan)-Canadians on that flight
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look for "کانادا". And the plane's been filmed caught on fire, where as missiles would cause outright explosion

It would do you all good to remember that the invasion of Iraq was supported by Iran and the very regime was created by the CIA. Also the very reason Iran has supremacy in Iraq is because of the US. The US gov fully supported Iranian militas in Iraq and got rid of saddams army and filled the ranks with Iranian shiite miltia. The fact of the matter is that Irananian miltia were used to combat sunni resistance in Iraq and had full support of the US gov against ISIS.
Your comment is eerily similar to what a deranged MEK member would say

When will you rubes finally realize we’re all just NPC’s in a Zionist LARP designed to produce human sacrifices for Baal?
And that's exactly why the US war machine has invaded middle east, and I can't believe you, of all people, are pointing this out.

Read my posts, and read yours. I didn’t cheer anything on. You, on the other hand, have been gleefully promising terror attacks on America and her friends. Don’t try and make me seem like the asshole you are.
If "terrorism", is anything that is against the US (and allies) military raids, invasion and adventurism, plus sanctions on the political side, and GMO bioterrorism (in which Canada plays a big role), THEN I'm a proud "terrorist". And I don't need to remind anyone of your reputation, and inversing tactics, when you're arguements are burning piles of crap.

You see how a real war between the US and Iran would go, though.
Absolutely
Real wars are not fought in Pedowood
 

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I don’t think they want to have armed conflict with anyone but live in peace.
Is that why they killed 34 US servicemen on the USS Liberty? Because they want peace? Is that why they keep getting more and more aggressive with annexing settlements? That's not someone who wants peace.

I encourage you to watch this documentary for an idea how many Jews think:

If you don't watch the whole thing. Skip to 1 hour 27 minutes. The filmmaker is talking to a Jewish girl who says she wants to kill all the Nazi camp guards. The filmmaker tells her they're all dead. She responds saying well they have heirs. The whole documentary is great. How Jewish people really bring their children up in a culture of victimhood and teach them to dislike anyone not Jewish and anyone who doesn't agree with their every whim.
 

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Is that why they killed 34 US servicemen on the USS Liberty? Because they want peace? Is that why they keep getting more and more aggressive with annexing settlements? That's not someone who wants peace.

I encourage you to watch this documentary for an idea how many Jews think:

If you don't watch the whole thing. Skip to 1 hour 27 minutes. The filmmaker is talking to a Jewish girl who says she wants to kill all the Nazi camp guards. The filmmaker tells her they're all dead. She responds saying well they have heirs. The whole documentary is great. How Jewish people really bring their children up in a culture of victimhood and teach them to dislike anyone not Jewish and anyone who doesn't agree with their every whim.
You’re gonna being up something that happened in 1967 as a reason why the Israeli’s don’t want peace? Really?
Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.[6]
It is their country and in the end their land..they should be able to use it how they want to..and like that video you posted said..Israel was founded to give the Jewish people a safe place to live in.

I would imagine some people still have hurt feelings over the Holocaust just like it seems people have hurt feelings over black slavery, etc...
 

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It is their country and in the end their land..Israel was founded to give the Jewish people a safe place to live in.
At the expence of Palestinian people, while not accepting (like the majority of Iran jews back in the days of formation) and/or attacking (like Satmar or Lev Tahor) and/or expelling (like Ethiopians) anyone that doesn't follow their fucked up beliefs? You know what, this is futile. We're not gonna let another America or Australia take shape right in our region, with pseudo-religious excuses, period.
 

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Yesterday, we were essentially at the point where the US and Iran seemed to both be indicating that there would be no more attacks. Trump said the US was willing to negotiate with Iran.

Today, Iran said that the missile attacks against US forces in Iraq were only the beginning of the payback for Soleimani, and they are planning high casualty attacks.


It sure would be beneficial to a rewarding dialogue here if we could talk about the language and actions of the respective leaders of Iran and the US right now.

Even so, the change in the relationship Iran has with the rest of the world is bound to change. Trump has called out the Iranian regime for the thugs and terrorists they are, while holding back on the war everyone says he’s trying to start.

Meanwhile, Iran has launched missile attacks against anti-ISIS coalition bases in the sovereign country of Iraq, openly threatened to attack civilian populations in Israel and UAE, shot down a civilian airliner, and is now promising forthcoming attacks against the US that they say will kill 4000-5000 people.

Can we discuss why people think Trump is the erratic warmonger in this situation?
 

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Yesterday, we were essentially at the point where the US and Iran seemed to both be indicating that there would be no more attacks. Trump said the US was willing to negotiate with Iran.

Today, Iran said that the missile attacks against US forces in Iraq were only the beginning of the payback for Soleimani, and they are planning high casualty attacks.


It sure would be beneficial to a rewarding dialogue here if we could talk about the language and actions of the respective leaders of Iran and the US right now.

Even so, the change in the relationship Iran has with the rest of the world is bound to change. Trump has called out the Iranian regime for the thugs and terrorists they are, while holding back on the war everyone says he’s trying to start.

Meanwhile, Iran has launched missile attacks against anti-ISIS coalition bases in the sovereign country of Iraq, openly threatened to attack civilian populations in Israel and UAE, shot down a civilian airliner, and is now promising forthcoming attacks against the US that they say will kill 4000-5000 people.

Can we discuss why people think Trump is the erratic warmonger in this situation?
Because he started it. And he escalated it to the point it’s at now.

You can’t pull out of a deal your country made with no justification then impose massive economic sanctions on a country effectively crippling their economy and expect them to do NOTHING about it and then use their expected response to justify taking out their appointed leader in an unprecedented manner - and then claim zero culpability.

What is your definition of war?
 

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You’re gonna being up something that happened in 1967 as a reason why the Israeli’s don’t want peace? Really?


It is their country and in the end their land..they should be able to use it how they want to..and like that video you posted said..Israel was founded to give the Jewish people a safe place to live in.

I would imagine some people still have hurt feelings over the Holocaust just like it seems people have hurt feelings over black slavery, etc...
What legal right do they have to the land lil Lisa?
 

Thunderian

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Because he started it. And he escalated it to the point it’s at now.

You can’t pull out of a deal your country made with no justification then impose massive economic sanctions on a country effectively crippling their economy and expect them to do NOTHING about it and then use their expected response to justify taking out their appointed leader in an unprecedented manner - and then claim zero culpability.

What is your definition of war?
You’re incorrect. Iran has been attacking and killing American soldiers and American allies through it’s proxies for a long time. Things came to a head when Iranian militias under the command of Soleimani attacked the US embassy and set it fire. Trump had already given warning that any such attacks would be met with a serious response, and THAT is why Soleimani got what he did. If he was innocent, why was he travelling in a war zone with members of the same Iranian proxies who’ve already killed hundreds of US soldiers?

Regardless, Trump essentially said yesterday that if Iran stays cool, so will the US. Today Iran threatens more American lives. How do you blame Trump?
 

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You can’t seriously be this stupid.
You are the loudmouth TRUMPeting this conflict and making wild accusations. If what you contend is so rock-solid, it stands to reason you would have posted proof by now. Instead we get your regurgitation of lies which are usually exposed before you even post them. So Dumbdarian answer this if you please..... if Trump hasnt provided proof to the American people or the lawmaking bodies whom are the only legal option for military action on this scale, and in fact, members of his own party are going renegade on him for the lack of real proof for the regime's claims, how have you divined Iranian guilt?
 

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You’re incorrect. Iran has been attacking and killing American soldiers and American allies through it’s proxies for a long time. Things came to a head when Iranian militias under the command of Soleimani attacked the US embassy and set it fire. Trump had already given warning that any such attacks would be met with a serious response, and THAT is why Soleimani got what he did. If he was innocent, why was he travelling in a war zone with members of the same Iranian proxies who’ve already killed hundreds of US soldiers?

Regardless, Trump essentially said yesterday that if Iran stays cool, so will the US. Today Iran threatens more American lives. How do you blame Trump?
Did the attack on the embassy happen before or after we withdrew from the nuclear agreement and imposed sanctions?
 
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