What are y'all discussing in the K Pop thread?

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The Threads go back and forth on whether they [BTS] are the ones who are in control or are being controlled. It's basically the same as other Entertainment Threads, but applied to KPop stars instead of Hollywood celebrities. Also on the basis that Kpop is being promoted to the West as more Family Friendly. They promote Idols as the Perfect Role Models who don't condone nor act like the popular celebrities that Hollywood endorse. While in actuality Kpop may be worse, they are just far more shady/secretive. And now that this year alone there were about 3 different Suicides from KPOP Idols.
 
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For the few times I browsed out there I assumed it was a form of Koreaboos to keep obsessing on their faves from the "conspiracy" perspective LOL It's like they all aknowledged that Kpop that was totally imerged into the Illuminat crap but it's like none of them sought out to ultimately stop giving them attention. This thread could be about spreading awareness to make people realise how trash it is and tell anyone they ain't worthy their hype and attention since their imagery is almost as twisted & corrupted as what US celebrities pull out, but instead, they seem just as obsessed and fascinated with Kpop with any Koreaboo, just painting it as a "woke" coat. It's highkey embarassing to say the least...
and why are you angry people posting about Kpop? how does that effect you in negative why? let them post what they want..and its good thread bcz there is millions of fans over there, and there is more and more fans discovering the truth...I don't understand why some people would be bothered..don't like it...don't come there..simple as that
 
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Wow, I expected butthurt stans in denial to get mad at me (and still do lol) but your reaction is so intelligent and sound it sorta taken me aback lol
I'm glad my post fed you some thoughts! Thank you!! :D

@UnspokenSoliloquy What I bolded in saintroserosalia's post sums up what's going wrong with those Kpop truther threads which eventually reveal themselves as belonging to the same coin of stan culture, just on the opposite side.
Tracking down and denouncing their evil agenda is the first step to waking up, but when you see threads of several hundreds(!!!) of pages of the same people dissecting lyrics, MVs, tweets, promo shots and shit, I can't help but think they are just stans in denial that absolutely have no attention of stop feeding those Kpop idols of their attention & clicks.
Sure exposing the truth "comes in strides" but there's a moment when you have to take action & stop feeding the monster (which is the second step of "truthing out" celebrities). Both stans and truthers are giving those sold out celebrities the attention & clicks they (the celebrities) want, so why would they stop with their crap? Attention is attention, no matter if it's fueled with love or hate/criticism. Those stans in denial should realize that when milking hundreds of pages of threads babbling about those satanic bands and giving their views on their equally satanic MVs...

See how VC barely doesn't cover awards ceremonies anymore? because he did the job on exposing them and eventually decided to stop giving them attention whenever they show off their redundant shit. Why KPop truthers can't do the same? Why not to do a whole ass exposé masterpost about how those Kpop bands pushing an Evil agenda to educate current stans who still look up to them, and explain why they shouldn't support that shit anymore and LET IT GO? Why don't they at some point stop tracking down their every move and release? They can't let it go and won't let it go ; why? because they're still obsessed. They ain't recovering. They just found another way to obsess over their idols but on the "woke" spectrum.
At this point, I have more respect for stans who are honest with their blind stanning than delusional fake woke who keep stanning under the guise of "let's expose them!!!":rolleyes:
more and more fans are waking up...you have to realize there is many still fans...and they came there to stop being fan...its not like one person just stopped being fan...there are millions still blind to what Kpop is...
 

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Not sure what people are blabbing about in here with their 10 paragraph comments. Let me break it down for you.

- signs and more signs, colors, etc.
- spells and witchcraft
- transgender
- sex change male to female
- mk ultra and the signs we are seeing
- when their programming glitches
- their handlers and how they watch them

Those are the main things. It’s mainly kpop since it’s really big and trending around the world right now.
 
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Yeah, the control of musical artists is not limited to the West. The one thing I admire about the K-Pop thread is those in the discussions being able to get along unlike the rest of the forum. There is a unity of discussion there which is impressive.
I haven't been much in this forum outside of the Kpop thread so I am not aware of this!! :oops:
 

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Not sure what people are blabbing about in here with their 10 paragraph comments. Let me break it down for you.

- signs and more signs, colors, etc.
- spells and witchcraft
- transgender/sex change
- mk ultra and the signs we are seeing
- when their programming glitches
- their handlers and how they watch them

Those are the main things. It’s mainly kpop since it’s really big and trending around the world right now.
This literally sums it up. Let's not forget prostitution/trafficking, addictions and the impact of K-Pop on society globally.
 

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and why are you angry people posting about Kpop? how does that effect you in negative why? let them post what they want..and its good thread bcz there is millions of fans over there, and there is more and more fans discovering the truth...I don't understand why some people would be bothered..don't like it...don't come there..simple as that
I'm not "angry" about people talking about Kpop. I actually have no problem with the Kpop fandom I'm pretty oblivious of to be honest.
What I have an issue with (which is different from being "angry") is people using false pretense by acting like they're exposing this industry while they're just stanning. I explained in my previous posts precisely WHY those threads were toxic and unproductive so I won't bother repeating myself. Look it up.
Some might enter those threads with good intentions, but they'll eventually get caught in that pointless vicious circle of endless faux wokeness. I'm eager to see an example of some user out there who flat out said "ok that's enough [evidence] for me, I will stop checking for this industry & this thread out, that's too toxic".
I will wait.
I'd have no issue with actual casual Kpop fan threads, but this hypocrisy is what actually gets me.

I went in those threads TWO or THREE times and never came back - I didn't bother commenting nor tried to police anything said out there, so stop acting like a victim. I had to see & witness what's happening out there by myself to make my own opinion. That's actually a very logic initiative. Let's get real : if I said I never came to any of those thread yall would be accusing me of talking about stuff that I don't know. I just went ahead.

more and more fans are waking up...you have to realize there is many still fans...and they came there to stop being fan...its not like one person just stopped being fan...there are millions still blind to what Kpop is...
Waking up is good. But how about letting go?
As far as I know, VC himself admitted not being able to enjoy mainstream medias anymore so much it was debilitating & satanic, and that's the case of many of us - because waking up is only but a FIRST step. If you keep coming back to a toxic matter, regardless you waken up about its toxicity or not, it will eventually reach out to you, hence the necessity of completely BLOCK IT OUT, otherwise this awakening would be moot and pointless.

Once you grasped how Kpop is toxic why bother stalking their every move to "expose" them? It's like screaming "BURN BABYLON!! BURN!!!" at the edge of the city -with no intention of actually going anywhere else of course- and be nuked along when God destroyed it. Reckless and Pointless.
Why not staying away the negativity and let the THOUSANDS of pages of forum archive for the newcoming fans seeking for truth to take over the thread and enjoy all your exposure work while you're spending time away from this messy fandom enriched with all this knowledge after you "stopped being a fan"? Those pages won't disappear once YOU stop coming and they might indeed be useful for any new future former fan.
Those threads are basically echo chambers of the same users babbling with each other pages after pages, so it's apparent they're on VC only for the Kpop threads - I mean, you yourself admitted not going anywhere else on VC beside those threads... :rolleyes: (and it's not like VC forums had gazillions of active users to make up for any potential user turnover considering their considerable amount of pages). So much for the "they came to stop being fan" narrative.... Maybe if you tried to look after something else than Kpop you would be able to get over it *sigh* Yall so transparent....

Satan really has a grip on your mind and you have no idea....
Be free.

ps/ for any (fellow) Christians from this thread aspiring to make a Bible study group (like I read here from some user) just know you cannot serve 2 masters. Kpop culture consumption/enjoyment has no place in a sound Christian lifestyle. Be adamant about your choices.
I'll be praying for all the people sincerely trying to get away from this cult. God Bless you.
 
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I'm not "angry" about people talking about Kpop. I actually have no problem with the Kpop fandom I'm pretty oblivious of to be honest.
What I have an issue with (which is different from being "angry") is people using false pretense by acting like they're exposing this industry while they're just stanning. I explained in my previous posts precisely WHY those threads were toxic and unproductive so I won't bother repeating myself. Look it up.
Some might enter those threads with good intentions, but they'll eventually get caught in that pointless vicious circle of endless faux wokeness. I'm eager to see an example of some user out there who flat out said "ok that's enough [evidence] for me, I will stop checking for this industry & this thread out, that's too toxic".
I will wait.
I'd have no issue with actual casual Kpop fan threads, but this hypocrisy is what actually gets me.

I went in those threads TWO or THREE times and never came back - I didn't bother commenting nor tried to police anything said out there, so stop acting like a victim. I had to see & witness what's happening out there by myself to make my own opinion. That's actually a very logic initiative. Let's get real : if I said I never came to any of those thread yall would be accusing me of talking about stuff that I don't know. I just went ahead.


Waking up is good. But how about letting go?
As far as I know, VC himself admitted not being able to enjoy mainstream medias anymore so much it was debilitating & satanic, and that's the case of many of us - because waking up is only but a FIRST step. If you keep coming back to a toxic matter, regardless you waken up about its toxicity or not, it will eventually reach out to you, hence the necessity of completely BLOCK IT OUT, otherwise this awakening would be moot and pointless.

Once you grasped how Kpop is toxic why bother stalking their every move to "expose" them? It's like screaming "BURN BABYLON!! BURN!!!" at the edge of the city -with no intention of actually going anywhere else of course- and be nuked along when God destroyed it. Reckless and Pointless.
Why not staying away the negativity and let the THOUSANDS of pages of forum archive for the newcoming fans seeking for truth to take over the thread and enjoy all your exposure work while you're spending time away from this messy fandom enriched with all this knowledge after you "stopped being a fan"? Those pages won't disappear once YOU stop coming and they might indeed be useful for any new future former fan.
Those threads are basically echo chambers of the same users babbling with each other pages after pages, so it's apparent they're on VC only for the Kpop threads - I mean, you yourself admitted not going anywhere else on VC beside those threads... :rolleyes: (and it's not like VC forums had gazillions of active users to make up for any potential user turnover considering their considerable amount of pages). So much for the "they came to stop being fan" narrative.... Maybe if you tried to look after something else than Kpop you would be able to get over it *sigh* Yall so transparent....

Satan really has a grip on your mind and you have no idea....
Be free.

ps/ for any (fellow) Christians from this thread aspiring to make a Bible study group (like I read here from some user) just know you cannot serve 2 masters. Kpop culture consumption/enjoyment has no place in a sound Christian lifestyle. Be adamant about your choices.
I'll be praying for all the people sincerely trying to get away from this cult. God Bless you.
I agree I was in that thread and did my part by exposing them years ago it’s been a while since I’ve visited it because the thread did its purpose; opening my eyes to the reality of that industry. Most of them are fans in denial and still latch onto the idea that they can be saved they’re addicted to them without realizing it, most of the old members have all moved on for that reason.
 

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I'm not "angry" about people talking about Kpop. I actually have no problem with the Kpop fandom I'm pretty oblivious of to be honest.
What I have an issue with (which is different from being "angry") is people using false pretense by acting like they're exposing this industry while they're just stanning. I explained in my previous posts precisely WHY those threads were toxic and unproductive so I won't bother repeating myself. Look it up.
Some might enter those threads with good intentions, but they'll eventually get caught in that pointless vicious circle of endless faux wokeness. I'm eager to see an example of some user out there who flat out said "ok that's enough [evidence] for me, I will stop checking for this industry & this thread out, that's too toxic".
I will wait.
I'd have no issue with actual casual Kpop fan threads, but this hypocrisy is what actually gets me.

I went in those threads TWO or THREE times and never came back - I didn't bother commenting nor tried to police anything said out there, so stop acting like a victim. I had to see & witness what's happening out there by myself to make my own opinion. That's actually a very logic initiative. Let's get real : if I said I never came to any of those thread yall would be accusing me of talking about stuff that I don't know. I just went ahead.


Waking up is good. But how about letting go?
As far as I know, VC himself admitted not being able to enjoy mainstream medias anymore so much it was debilitating & satanic, and that's the case of many of us - because waking up is only but a FIRST step. If you keep coming back to a toxic matter, regardless you waken up about its toxicity or not, it will eventually reach out to you, hence the necessity of completely BLOCK IT OUT, otherwise this awakening would be moot and pointless.

Once you grasped how Kpop is toxic why bother stalking their every move to "expose" them? It's like screaming "BURN BABYLON!! BURN!!!" at the edge of the city -with no intention of actually going anywhere else of course- and be nuked along when God destroyed it. Reckless and Pointless.
Why not staying away the negativity and let the THOUSANDS of pages of forum archive for the newcoming fans seeking for truth to take over the thread and enjoy all your exposure work while you're spending time away from this messy fandom enriched with all this knowledge after you "stopped being a fan"? Those pages won't disappear once YOU stop coming and they might indeed be useful for any new future former fan.
Those threads are basically echo chambers of the same users babbling with each other pages after pages, so it's apparent they're on VC only for the Kpop threads - I mean, you yourself admitted not going anywhere else on VC beside those threads... :rolleyes: (and it's not like VC forums had gazillions of active users to make up for any potential user turnover considering their considerable amount of pages). So much for the "they came to stop being fan" narrative.... Maybe if you tried to look after something else than Kpop you would be able to get over it *sigh* Yall so transparent....

Satan really has a grip on your mind and you have no idea....
Be free.

ps/ for any (fellow) Christians from this thread aspiring to make a Bible study group (like I read here from some user) just know you cannot serve 2 masters. Kpop culture consumption/enjoyment has no place in a sound Christian lifestyle. Be adamant about your choices.
I'll be praying for all the people sincerely trying to get away from this cult. God Bless you.
Its really embarrassing those threads are still on run after 3 years. Although most of the users have left, but I would appreciate if new-comers also stop adding pages after pages, most of it not even productive anymore- even if someone puts actual analysis there, that gets burdened under unnecessary babbling over how idols look sad, depressed, victimized, and pointing out the slightest faults after every content is released. They really need to stop making kpop as the number one thread here and just move on already.
 

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Its really embarrassing those threads are still on run after 3 years. Although most of the users have left, but I would appreciate if new-comers also stop adding pages after pages, most of it not even productive anymore- even if someone puts actual analysis there, that gets burdened under unnecessary babbling over how idols look sad, depressed, victimized, and pointing out the slightest faults after every content is released. They really need to stop making kpop as the number one thread here and just move on already.
You hit the nail on the head, so much drama. Debates are oftentimes mistaken for arguing. Some users are slanderous as well, making fun of celebrities weight gain, calling them unattractive, etc as if that will solve anything, it's pointless. We should focus on the bigger picture. I understand if a new user comes along to share that some older users know already though. I think it's fine if older users want to talk about something a "idol" or "idols" have done recently, as long as it isn't about how gay they look or how fat they are getting. We must all set a great example for lurkers because millions of people has read the forums lately and may want to share something important. If arguing, instigating, and bullying becomes to norm, many people will leave including myself and the thread may even disappear, we don't want that to happen. Since kpop has been on the rise , those 3 forums are the most popular forums on Vigilant Citizen. I will say that it's good that people are aware of how evil it is. Some threads have been deleted about western artists which is strange, I remember it being more forums than they are now.
 
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You hit the nail on the head, so much drama. Debates are oftentimes mistaken for arguing. Some users are slanderous as well, making fun of celebrities weight gain, calling them unattractive, etc as if that will solve anything, it's pointless. We should focus on the bigger picture. I understand if a new user comes along to share that some older users know already though. I think it's fine if older users want to talk about something a "idol" or "idols" have done recently, as long as it isn't about how gay they look or how fat they are getting. We must all set a great example for lurkers because millions of people has read the forums lately and may want to share something important. If arguing, instigating, and bullying becomes to norm, many people will leave including myself and the thread may even disappear, we don't want that to happen. Since kpop has been on the rise , those 3 forums are the most popular forums on Vigilant Citizen. I will say that it's good that people are aware of how evil it is. Some threads have been deleted about western artists which is strange, I remember it being more forums than they are now.
There is a time when you need to consider let them go. Thousands of pages will always stay there, not going anywhere. Even after that, knowing their every filthy work, still want to pray and sympathize for celebs is a weird mentality. It just further proves some out there is still under stan culture. And the fact is even if someone makes fun, if they were out of caring like fan, they wouldn't be bothering about it writing pages after pages, its called fake wokeness, under the same definition of stan culture. But few of us who don't give a hid to that, we leave it like that. You can call me new member, fine. Re-read this thread "what y'all discussing in kpop thread" its not just me who thinks the same. Its a question from the people on the forum who are in 30s 40s, who are older and more experienced than young kpop thread users.
Awareness is good, but at some point you need to stop feeding them attention both ways and move on
 
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There is a time when you need to consider let them go. Thousands of pages will always stay there, not going anywhere. Even after that, knowing their every filthy work, still want to pray and sympathize for celebs is a weird mentality. It just further proves some out there is still under stan culture. And the fact is even if someone makes fun, if they were out of caring like fan, they wouldn't be bothering about it writing pages after pages, its called fake wokeness, under the same definition of stan culture. But few of us who don't give a hid to that, we leave it like that. You can call me new member, fine. Re-read this thread "what y'all discussing in kpop thread" its not just me who thinks the same. Its a question from the people on the forum who are in 30s 40s, who are older and more experienced than young kpop thread users.
Awareness is good, but at some point you need to stop feeding them attention both ways and move on
I admit its very addicting to check on them regularly. What recently idols have shown, Ive made up my mind to move on from that thread, I have no interest left to discuss over some fake idols image, let alone thinking about them anyways.

Its true to consider praying, moreover keep discussing is a stan culture. Some seem to be butthurt when the slightest criticism is thrown out there. Its really embarrassing to say the least.
Those threads are already too big, this need to be stopped or just put some real analysis, or completely ignore the whole thing. Babbling over idols wanna be saved or not, is another name of hypocrisy. Some of them need to be mature and focus on real life now.
 

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There is a time when you need to consider let them go. Thousands of pages will always stay there, not going anywhere. Even after that, knowing their every filthy work, still want to pray and sympathize for celebs is a weird mentality. It just further proves some out there is still under stan culture. And the fact is even if someone makes fun, if they were out of caring like fan, they wouldn't be bothering about it writing pages after pages, its called fake wokeness, under the same definition of stan culture. But few of us who don't give a hid to that, we leave it like that. You can call me new member, fine. Re-read this thread "what y'all discussing in kpop thread" its not just me who thinks the same. Its a question from the people on the forum who are in 30s 40s, who are older and more experienced than young kpop thread users.
Awareness is good, but at some point you need to stop feeding them attention both ways and move on
I'm not sure if the "sympathizing" part of your statement comes from the discussion not_important and I had earlier in the kpop forum or what but if that's what you are referring to then I don't need to tell you why I disagree because clearly you've read it. Praying for someone isn't weird a "weird mentality" at all and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a fan either. You want to know what weird? Knowing that some celebrities were sold off since they were children, mentally, physically, and verbally abused and calling people who simply want to pray or "sympathize"weird. Just be cause someone hates what another person is going through and want them to get out their current situation doesn't mean they are weird. These people are getting tortured in the most grotesque ways and want out, some of them do not enjoy committing evil you know that right. It's not easy to just up and leave the entertainment industry. Discernment is a must and many people lack it to the point where if their ex-faves was to approach them crying they wouldn't think twice. I don't understand how praying has anything to do with "stan culture", at this point you're generalizing people who pray as overly obsessed fans when in fact most people on the thread are ex-fans to begin with and some of them are even Christian including myself, so having sympathy for lost souls is part of our beliefs. Not to turn this conversation into a religious debate but in God's eyes sin is equivalent. For example, yes lying is just as bad as murder. Try to understand why people think the way they do, send a dm or something before dismissing them as weird. What I said wasn't even directed towards you, in fact I was AGREEING with you. Where did I call you a new member anyways? If you read more of my recent post I said something about how users should start FOCUSING MORE ON EXPOSING THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES, THE CEOS, etc. I agree, some people of those threads, not all come off as fans every now and then. I go on the thread to see if anyone has found anything new and most of times they don't but it doesn't help to look every now and then so there's my reason, now what's yours? If you don't like it and think everyone has a weird mentality for "praying" then don't go on there, plain and simple. I didn't want to take it here but it is what is it. Age doesn't define maturity either, remember that. About making fun, WHAT DOES IT SOLVE? Absolutely nothing, and that is what I've been noticing with those threads, saying that it's wrong isn't "fake wokeness". Again if you read any of my recent posts on those threads you will see that I said it goes for CELEBRITIES AS WELL who bully others. You really expect flooding the thread with how gay, fat, and ugly someone looks is informative? You even said under boti thread how users are only judging celebrities of thier looks and how we should "focus on important stuffs", which one is it? Now, we can talk more about this through dm or just leave it here, but I think you misunderstood, I was agreeing with you but now I'm questioning you based off of your response to me right now you're no better the people who respond in a snarky way to people who disagree with them, you know like the "people in the kpop threads".


"Can someone break it down for me? What is so fascinating? :)", you must've taken that the wrong way, if they are in their 30s or 40s like you claim, it sounds like they are more interested and wants to know more about what kpop is and how evil it can be because kpop wasn't as popular as back then as it is now, it's new to them. You know what kpop is because you've liked many posts under those threads, including mine and if I'm not mistaken you even made a few posts yourself, so why are you trying to act as if you have no clue what is it suddenly?
 
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I'm not sure if the "sympathizing" part of your statement comes from the discussion not_important and I had earlier in the kpop forum or what but if that's what you are referring to then I don't need to tell you why I disagree because clearly you've read it. Praying for someone isn't weird a "weird mentality" at all and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a fan either. You want to know what weird? Knowing that some celebrities were sold off since they were children, mentally, physically, and verbally abused and calling people who simply want to pray or "sympathize"weird. Just be cause someone hates what another person is going through and want them to get out their current situation doesn't mean they are weird. These people are getting tortured in the most grotesque ways and want out, some of them do not enjoy committing evil you know that right. It's not easy to just up and leave the entertainment industry. Discernment is a must and many people lack it to the point where if their ex-faves was to approach them crying they wouldn't think twice. I don't understand how praying has anything to do with "stan culture", at this point you're generalizing people who pray as overly obsessed fans when in fact most people on the thread are ex-fans to begin with and some of them are even Christian including myself, so having sympathy for lost souls is part of our beliefs. Not to turn this conversation into a religious debate but in God's eyes sin is equivalent. For example, yes lying is just as bad as murder. Try to understand why people think the way they do, send a dm or something before dismissing them as weird. What I said wasn't even directed towards you, in fact I was AGREEING with you. Where did I call you a new member anyways? If you read more of my recent post I said something about how users should start FOCUSING MORE ON EXPOSING THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES, THE CEOS, etc. I agree, some people of those threads, not all come off as fans every now and then. I go on the thread to see if anyone has found anything new and most of times they don't but it doesn't help to look every now and then so there's my reason, now what's yours? If you don't like it and think everyone has a weird mentality for "praying" then don't go on there, plain and simple. I didn't want to take it here but it is what is it. Age doesn't define maturity either, remember that. About making fun, WHAT DOES IT SOLVE? Absolutely nothing, and that is what I've been noticing with those threads, saying that it's wrong isn't "fake wokeness". Again if you read any of my recent posts on those threads you will see that I said it goes for CELEBRITIES AS WELL who bully others. You really expect flooding the thread with how gay, fat, and ugly someone looks is informative? You even said under boti thread how users are only judging celebrities of thier looks and how we should "focus on important stuffs", which one is it? Now, we can talk more about this through dm or just leave it here, but I think you misunderstood, I was agreeing with you but now I'm questioning you based off of your response to me right now you're no better the people who respond in a snarky way to people who disagree with them, you know like the "people in the kpop threads".


"Can someone break it down for me? What is so fascinating? :)", you must've taken that the wrong way, if they are in their 30s or 40s like you claim, it sounds like they are more interested and wants to know more about what kpop is and how evil it can be because kpop wasn't as popular as back then as it is now, it's new to them. You know what kpop is because you've liked many posts under those threads, including mine and if I'm not mistaken you even made a few posts yourself, so why are you trying to act as if you have no clue what is it suddenly?
Typical excuse of offended fans to continue discussion years after years, fan culture to another way who gets offended when someone says something on idols body, one defends in blind way, another one woke way. This is how you will never be able to get outta the hole. Listen dear, noone is here in this thread is obsessed for your kpop thread. I came here recently, Ill leave soon. I check that not so often. Recent behaviour of some member really made me laugh and it made me concerned too. No need to act like victim girl when others show the faults you are doing. Take your time to grow up and respect others suggestion.

And please continue defending idols to in disguise of woke people in the name of religion, God's eye, humane way not to call them or something. Then find yourself one day how much time you wasted. God bless
 

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Typical excuse of offended fans to continue discussion years after years, fan culture to another way who gets offended when someone says something on idols body, one defends in blind way, another one woke way. This is how you will never be able to get outta the hole. Listen dear, noone is here in this thread is obsessed for your kpop thread. I came here recently, Ill leave soon. I check that not so often. Recent behaviour of some member really made me laugh and it made me concerned too. No need to act like victim girl when others show the faults you are doing. Take your time to grow up and respect others suggestion.

And please continue defending idols to in disguise of woke people in the name of religion, God's eye, humane way not to call them or something. Then find yourself one day how much time you wasted. God bless
You're really funny, you are the one playing victim and clearly can't understand anything someone is trying telling you. You need to grow up because most of your posts are of you arguing with people. As I've stated for the millionth time, I'm not a fan anymore so who are you to tell me what I am just because I'm not hateful? First off all, I asked if we can discuss the matter through dm but you decided to respond to me publicly, so who really needs to grow up. I've been "out of the hole" for years now. Anyways, please learn how to read or you will take everything to heart like you're doing now, you still keep dismissing the fact that I was agreeing with your first comment yet you want to turn it all on me. You like drama I'm glad you have showed your true character. You never answer my questions either it's always "stan culture" "fake wokeness" etc. Read for once, ok? How am I a fan when I have made posts exposing them? How am I a fan for saying bullying is wrong in ALL forms celebrity or not? How am I a fan calling them wicked and evil? Fans would go off if I said the things I said on those forums, I've gotten into many arguments with fans about their fans because they are lost. It's seems like you'll never grasp onto that so why bother. Where did I say I was woke? Stop making false assumptions about people. By the way I also come by often and I rarely post so what's your point? Show the faults I'm doing? You don't even make sense half the time. I'm starting to believe that you lack communication skills and understanding, because everything is going over your head. Forget dming each other to talk because you want to go back and forth publicly. You're disrespectful and I hope someday you'll realize why calling people pray for others "weird". Anyways, you have a blessed day I'm done talking about it.
 
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