On the Trinity:

Lisa

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WOW, that basically makes a mockery of the theology, butchering it for the sake of a "convenient" explanation.
What’s convenient about it? It’s a way to talk about something people have a hard time understanding. It’s not hard to understand the egg analogy...which makes it perfect for trying to get people to understand God in 3 persons.
 

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What’s convenient about it?
The very fact that it's an analogy, my dear. Albeit a bad one.

It’s a way to talk about something people have a hard time understanding. It’s not hard to understand the egg analogy...which makes it perfect for trying to get people to understand God in 3 persons.
Really? Coz any thinking person would say "what about an egg with two yolks, then?

You know, these analogies make mince meat out of your theology, right?

I mean, I hear a man try to explain the trinity away by way of another analogy. Namely, the water one. He said "water can flow, can rise like steam or freeze like ice" I had to hastily stop him and say, "poo can be a solid sinker, a liquid diarrhea, or float on your toilet" so you see Lisa, if you are attempting to "conveniently" explain away the "mystery" of the trinity (btw, that's exactly what Christian theologians call the trinity - a mystery, something unsolved) know this, better men have tried... and failed.

God bless

EDIT: Using "anal"ogy to explain the trinity away is a pretty "shit" thing to do :D
 

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The very fact that it's an analogy, my dear. Albeit a bad one.



Really? Coz any thinking person would say "what about an egg with two yolks, then?

You know, these analogies make mince meat out of your theology, right?

I mean, I hear a man try to explain the trinity away by way of another analogy. Namely, the water one. He said "water can flow, can rise like steam or freeze like ice" I had to hastily stop him and say, "poo can be a solid sinker, a liquid diarrhea, or float on your toilet" so you see Lisa, if you are attempting to "conveniently" explain away the "mystery" of the trinity (btw, that's exactly what Christian theologians call the trinity - a mystery, something unsolved) know this, better men have tried... and failed.

God bless

EDIT: Using "anal"ogy to explain the trinity away is a pretty "shit" thing to do :D
It’s the perfect analogy...
An egg has 3 parts and known by those three parts but it is also still called an egg. 3 in 1...perfect analogy for the Godhood.

Most eggs have 1 yolk..and the analogy is about that.

You remind of me of someone who used to post here...same kind of charm...
 

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We must be a blessed people to receive JAH's correction (not corruption) overriding the interpretations and teachings of the early Christians, the Copts, the Gnostics, the Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, the Manicheans, the Cathari; outsmarting the Tertullians and Origens, the Valentinians and the Irenaens, the Aquinases and the St. Anselms; reinterpreting the Koran better than the Muslims, the Torah better than the Jews and the Gospel of Jesus better than John.
Thank-you for your reply. "Many a true word was spoken in jest".

And this is not to say you're perverting judgement; just that a majority is normally wrong in this mentally insane place.
Exodus 23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to agree falsely with the majority and thereby pervert [judgment]:

And it was never going to be the many, or even few, anyway: ever: only One:

Revelation
5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means ALL or COMPLETELY).
5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?
5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to openthe Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

But I do have a question:

Can a Word exist without a Thought? Can a Thought exist without a Mind?
 

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What’s convenient about it? It’s a way to talk about something people have a hard time understanding. It’s not hard to understand the egg analogy...which makes it perfect for trying to get people to understand God in 3 persons.
So that's boiled eggs ... before they get eaten, and the shells thrown away?

Can't be scrambled, or fried? Or can it be?
 
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Lisa

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How about:

The yolk and white are always consumed - two.

John 10:30 I (Christ) and [my] Father are at one.

And the shells are always thrown out.

The 'human' body: Jesus.
How about that you know that the egg shell, the egg whites and the egg yolk are also known as one...an egg, correct?
 

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King of kings' Bible - Enoch
HOW TO RECOGNISE AND CORRECT THE MISTAKES:-
But when they shall write correctly all My words in their own languages,
104:9 They (My words) shall neither change nor diminish (Mark 13:31; Matt. 5:17-19); but when all shall be written correctly; ALL, which from the first I have uttered concerning them shall concur (John 10:35; Sura 15:9).
104:10 Another secret also I point out. To the righteous and the wise shall be given Books of joy, of integrity, and of great Wisdom. To them shall Books be given (Rev. 2:17), in which they shall believe (and Live by);
104:11 And in which they shall rejoice. And all the righteous shall be rewarded, who from these (Books) shall acquire the Knowledge of The Straight Way.
Well?
 
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Why is the sky blue during the day, but the stars are visible at night?
1. Because the frequency of blue light is higher than that of the other colours.
2. Because the light of the sun is brighter than the light of the stars during the day.

Your turn.
 
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1. Because the frequency of blue light is higher than that of the other colours.
2. Because the light of the sun is brighter than the light of the stars during the day.

Your turn.
I'd say more like something to do with this.

Genesis
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.

King of kings' Bible - Enoch
HOW TO RECOGNISE AND CORRECT THE MISTAKES:-
But when they shall write correctly all My words in their own languages,
104:9 They (My words) shall neither change nor diminish (Mark 13:31; Matt. 5:17-19); but when all shall be written correctly; ALL, which from the first I have uttered concerning them shall concur (John 10:35; Sura 15:9).
104:10 Another secret also I point out. To the righteous and the wise shall be given Books of joy, of integrity, and of great Wisdom. To them shall Books be given (Rev. 2:17), in which they shall believe (and Live by);
104:11 And in which they shall rejoice. And all the righteous shall be rewarded, who from these (Books) shall acquire the Knowledge of The Straight Way.
You completely ignored this.
 
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I'd say more like something to do with this.

Genesis
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
Have you seen water in a glass? Is it blue? Water and air aren't blue by itself, they appear blue because of the sunlight that shines on it.

You completely ignored this.
You're dodging the question.

Can a Word exist without a Thought? Can a Thought exist without a Mind?
 

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You have to go to Jewish scriptures to argue that God would never be a human. You cannot find it in any of the Christian scriptures. Are you a Jew? Or a Christian?
First of all, the Old Covenant is NOT "Jewish"; it is Hebrew (which is why the original was written in their language).

Secondly, there is no argument. The Scriptures are true and correct and you are wrong.

Third, Christ Himself said the very same thing about His Father and His God. Did you just miss it perhaps?

John 4:24 God [IS] a Spirit (NOT a man, neither the son of man): and they that worship Him must worship [Him] with their spirit (Being) and in Truth.

John 5:37 And the Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard His voice at ANY time, nor seen His shape (because He is the INVISIBLE God, Who CREATED Christ, the FirstBORN of every creature - Col. 1:15).

Numbers 23:19 God [is] not a man (He is a Spirit), that He should lie; neither the son of man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do [it]? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good?

Fourth, what we truthfully cannot find ANYWHERE in Scripture is ANY mention of a "trinity", "triune god", "three-in-one", "one-in-three", "God the Son", "God the Holy Spirit", or that belief in some sort of pagan Roman 3=1 deity is essential for anyone's salvation. Why?

Because there is no "trinity".

Fifth, do you even know why you're asking "Are you a Jew? Or a Christian?" What would it matter? It's the MESSAGE that's important NOT the messenger. Besides, the Bible is replete with condemnations of ALL organized religions (Jer. 23:1-5, Matt. 6:5-8) and their evil leaders (priests, pastors, rabbis, imams, etc. - Isa. 3:12, Matt. 23:8-10, John 10:8) and their satanic places of business (synagogues, churches, mosques, temples, etc. - Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24).

Sixth, the rest of what you've shared in your reply is equally plagued with irrational and unScriptural assumptions, so perhaps it's best to leave it at this, to make it easier for you to digest what's being shared with you for your benefit.

And finally, may Father Bless you.
 

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We must be a blessed people to receive JAH's correction (not corruption) overriding the interpretations and teachings of the early Christians, the Copts, the Gnostics, the Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, the Manicheans, the Cathari; outsmarting the Tertullians and Origens, the Valentinians and the Irenaens, the Aquinases and the St. Anselms; reinterpreting the Koran better than the Muslims, the Torah better than the Jews and the Gospel of Jesus better than John.
John 10:7-8
10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
10:8 ALL that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
 
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