Traηsgender agenda in Kpop

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Omg that’s so hard to believe, Naeun has been my bias in Apink since forever and Somi seems like a plain western girl. But if they’re really trans, how are their voices sooooo soft and high pitched? I would expect them to sound like sungjong from infinite or daewih from wannone
 

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Omg that’s so hard to believe, Naeun has been my bias in Apink since forever and Somi seems like a plain western girl. But if they’re really trans, how are their voices sooooo soft and high pitched? I would expect them to sound like sungjong from infinite or daewih from wannone
Voice practice, and S0mi's voice is not soft lol I don't think they even try to feminize it
famous people like marilyn and jackie also trained their voice to sound more feminine
 

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Voice practice, and S0mi's voice is not soft lol I don't think they even try to feminize it
famous people like marilyn and jackie also trained their voice to sound more feminine
True, somees voice doesn’t sound smooth it’s just high pitch but her voice sounds like there are grains of sand like small cracks, I guess they can’t really cover it fully.
there’s another conspiracy regarding marilin monrow though, that she is a beta kitty to spy and lure the targeted elites, but if she’s really a tran, then why would the numerous men that hit on her still went for her if she was actually a man? (Sorry for repeatedly being out of topic of kpop)
 

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True, somees voice doesn’t sound smooth it’s just high pitch but her voice sounds like there are grains of sand like small cracks, I guess they can’t really cover it fully.
there’s another conspiracy regarding marilin monrow though, that she is a beta kitty to spy and lure the targeted elites, but if she’s really a tran, then why would the numerous men that hit on her still went for her if she was actually a man? (Sorry for repeatedly being out of topic of kpop)
These men probably knew the story and what is going on (maybe they were ftms or real men) but marilyn was going through mk ultra and alot of control marilyn role is also very significant in today's pop culture (kpop as well)
now i'll tell you something that I thought of, I think that Marilyn was a successful black magic tool
beautiful indeed, thanks to the hormones and facial feminization surgery and the personal charm also probably was successfuly programmed so they wanted to make marilyn like a prototype for the stars to come
That's why a lot of stars make her homage dress up like marilyn (maybe went through the same mk ultra programing) , but also they wanted to reproduce marilyn
We all know marilyn had health problems they said it was miscarriages, I think they took marilyn's seeds for future strars/idols
We already know that there is blood connection between certain stars (this is a topic in itself) I think marilyn has offsprings now
britney spears and my own theory I think loona's jinsoul is related as well and IU
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So, there is a conspiracy theory that in every country celebs (singers, politicians, athletes. For example, ㅜrruмp and Br!t!sh R0y@l fam!ly) are mainly tranies. Their families are elite. Such celebs are born to be famous, they have been brainwashed since childhood (such as occultism, mk ultra), often after the first few years of their fame they are sacrificed and replaced with their clones. This is a very common human clonning conspiracy. You can find a lot of information about Hollywood celeb's clones in the Internet. Celebrities DNA material is taken when they are babies and then clones are made (clones are almost identical to celebs, but they cannot be totally identical due to mutations during the cloning process). For example, Avr!1 L@v!gnĕ.
Parents of celebs are usually transgenders too, so such a mothers cannot give birth, so such families use IVF and surrogate mother. Woman celebs imitate their pregnancy with speciall stuff (look at the picture). View attachment 27907There is common couples and marriages between mtf and ftm celebs.
All the children of these celebs are transgenders too, they begin to change their sex since being babies. Some of their are open transgenders while others are secret. For example, @nge1!n@'s children.
This is all because of the elite is illuminati, and their god is baphomet being hermaphrodite and pansexual. So they try to look like him.
This hidden agenda have been starting near 70 years ago. We all have grown up in movies where the main female lead is played by the mtf and vice versa. We are used to see all these androgynous women and men on TV, and we take them for granted. It's their goal because thereby they are suspected by the units although in real life people usually look a way different than these celebs.
This is why celebs do so many plastic surgeries and injections, wearing heavy makeup, and do hair transplants to hide who they are. But pills cannot affect one thing - the structure of the skeleton (shoulders width, face features, hands length, pelvis width, waist width and its location). That's why there are so many tall women and short men in Hollywood.
It's a big problem because all the top models are transgenders (V!ctor!a seecret, for example), and we see everywhere only them, and we try to look like them, but this is impossible because men usually do have long legs, not women. And so on. This is why so many women today suffer from anorexia and eating disorders considering their hips, legs and waist as fat. We hate our natural body and want a celebs-like body, but the point is that their bodies is not feminine. This is why I think we need feminism, women are being erased everywhere, as they have been erased throughout human history. Elite erase our body, dictates us their standards, don't allow us to break into politics and art, to play our female roles in movies, etc.
No one can say for sure because if we talk about hidden transgender celebs then most of them have started making the transition since being babies. Thus, they take pills since childhood and their differences with non-transgender people are not so noticeable. They are castrated, and they change their sex. Ftm wear a boyish haircuts and vice versa.
However, the structure of the skeleton can say a lot, and in order to distinguish who is who, you need to dive into the anatomy.
Ftm usually have layering outfits, they rarely expose their torso totally (because of waist will be visible), they wear wide-shoulder jackets, make tattoos to conceal their female hands, and smoke cigarettes to make their voice more masculine.

Some anatomy extracts:
- Women put their hands on their waists, but men put their hands on their hips because they have longer arms than women (for example, 1è0n@rd0 who is said to be tranny)
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- Female spine curve (for example, 1è0n@rd0)
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- Chin
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- Male brow ridge
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Sorry for my English

Okay,firstly,please don't apologise about your english.You are doing fine and you will improve with practice.:)

About ftm,perhaps check this video?

About the female artists' long necks and other features

And kp0p related,made by a member on kp0p thread,kind of covers most of the groups that've been mentioned on this thread.Check from 41:54

Reason for this agenda

 

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Another group I want to focus on is Cosmic Girls (WJSN)
members like Seola, Bona, the chinese line got lucky
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but the others looks very suspicious
I love some of their songs But again, we cannot forget that we are being lied to
and they have very occult vibes in the songs and music videos, extreme symbolism
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Dawon also very bony, masculine face
 

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Some of the things here are just silly and a disservice to women. I have long arms, wide shoulders, long hands, a prominent thyroid like Lisa and to top it off my ring finger is longer than my forefinger... it's official I'm a man

Edit: forgot to mention my somewhat prominent slightly cleft chin and my tall straight forehead
 
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U have the adam's apple ?
We all have that cartillage around our larynx, it just so happens that men usually have a more prominent one because men's voices are usually lower and booming. I happen to have a lower voice too than normal women and my voice really, really travels if I'm not careful to soften it and speak or sing at a low volume. I wouldn't call it an Adam's apple on principle, because I'm a woman, but my throat is indeed very similar to Lisa's, just shorter.
 

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I see some people say that it's offensive towards women etc., and it makes me sad.
You should imagine how sad it makes the women who posses the traits that you guys are categorizing as being male.
All my life I've been very self conscious about my booming voice, because if I talk in my comfortable voice people think I'm raising my voice at them, that I'm yelling, so I've learned early on to speak and sing very quietly. People have given me a lot of grief over the sound my larinx makes, because if someone calls me on the phone and I'm mentally unprepared to change my voice in that moment to a quieter and softer one they'll think me very rude because how my normal voice sounds or when someone annoys me or angers me I unconsciously start responding in my normal voice and they'll accuse me of yelling at them.... and on top of this, thanks to threads like this, I not only have to be self-concious about the sound my larynx makes but also about how large it looks. Oh the joy...
BTW I don' have a hormonal imbalance, I've had to check because of how my thyroid looks.
I've seen you posted prominent veins as another sign of female celebrities being born male.
I've had very prominent veins on my hands, forearms and feet ever since I can remember, because I've always had very bad blood circulation and I also have very thin skin. I've always been very self-conscious about my veins because they're an eye-sore and now because some people on the Internet have deemed this a male trait, I'm going to become even more self-conscious.
Lisa has long arms for her body and long arms mean bad peripheric circulation, plus she obviously bleaches her skin so she's caused her skin to thin = more visible veins.

Yeah, women can be masculine. I have broad shoulders, too. But not all the male features at once!
Forgive me but do you seriously see all male features in all these singers you posted?

So why it seems like almost all the celebs have it? I always wondered why all the celebs and models are so masculine, and men are so feminine. I wish I had role models of real women, not trans, that's why I am here.
Then go ahead and have role models of real women, not the ones on screens who shouldn't qualify as a role model for anyone, not because they may have not been born female but because people shouldn't look up to them....and Thou shall have no idols, LOL

The reason female celebs & models tend to have sharper facial features that are more commonly found in the male population than the female population is because their more angular looks are more memorable than traditional feminine faces, because we remember unusual looks better than ones we can find in most representatives of that gender.
Another reason is because they photograph better, the camera loves individuality and a balanced proportion of sharp and soft, rather than too much softness (in females) and too much sharpness (in males).
So the prettiest woman you have ever seen in real life may look very bland on film and you'll not be inclined to remember that person, so she'll have less chance of ever becoming famous in the first place.
Look at this very pretty and feminine face, I've always been fascinated by facial features especially, but also analyzing all the physical features that differentiate one person from all the others I've seen (it's a professional defect) but this woman, beautiful as she may be, won't stick in my mind even for a few minutes. Her looks don't stand out in any way, so even though in real life her looks may attract admiration, on film and from an artistic point of view she's very boring.
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In males, highly masculine faces are not usually friendly looking, men like these are not the type you can imagine yourself creating a bond with, because let's face it most women imagine themselves with their favorite male celebrity, and if they can't picture themselves with those men they usually don't become their fans
Also like I mentioned before, their too strong features are just too bland looking to remember a man and they don't look as good on camera.

Now there are very feminine looking women and very masculine looking men in show business too, but they're facial or physical features almost always have an unusual trait too, like very big eyes in a woman, floppy ears in a man, very prominent cheeckbones, aegyo bags in female Caucasian celebrities, very deep set eyes in men, etc. Basically traits that are still feminine (in the women) and masculine (in the men) but they're exaggerated or simply unusual for their ethnicity, so therefore they're not boring.
 

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So,what do you suggest one should do?
I thought all sorts of conspiracies are open to discussion here?
You are welcome to have your own opinions on these topics,but,so do others.
Or do you have any suggestions on how to approach this topic?Please,give suggestions and ideas,if you have any.
But,don't deny this topic as rubbish,just because it is insulting or unimaginable.Most of the conspiracies are like that.People find it offensive to think that someone could be doing whatever it was theorised,until they see enough evidence.
And this thread has just started.As more people give more inputs,something will come out of it,probably more convincing pointers about the topic or things that could debunk it.No one knows for sure.
Let people discuss what they want.
At the least,this should be a space to air out their opinions without any judgement.
The problem is that these topics and videos are becoming more and more popular everywhere on the Internet which can have consequences for real people in real life, but who cares right? The possibility that a male fan might have fapped to a woman born with a dick or that a girl's idol might have been born male deserves priority and these beasts that pretend to be something they're not need to be identifyed.
They're airing judgements on asians of all people, the race that has the least diferences between the sexes. You don't realise how funny this is. While you can have a chance of actually identifying transgenders when it comes to white people where representatives of the two genders are the most different out of all races, the idea that you could succesfully identify an asian transgender by pictures alone is pretty unrealistic. Ask people who's career revolves around the human anatomy if you don't believe me.
I saw on the BTS thread a person providing "evidence" that a korean male celeb was born female because he had a flat face and short arms, but he's Korean!!! Most koreans, male and female, have flat faces and short arms. They were applying Caucasian standard features to a Korean, the hilarity.
These people are absolutely obsessed with these things and they don't even have real knowledge about anatomy, how many real people of all races have they drawn, painted or sculpted that they're such experts on these topics?
They find some self-made experts on youtube saying that these traits are female and these are male and they repeat them without ever having analysed the bodies and faces of hundreds or thousands of real people around them, like artists do, to see how different we all are.

Of course I have very little power of stopping this madness but I can express my opinion too, can't I? (and I've got the flu so I really have nothing better to do at the moment)
The reason why I would care about these topics is obvious but I can't figure out why you guys are obssesed with whether someone you'll never meet is XY or XX? Why is it that important to you to dedicate time of your life to this?
 
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Actually I do have a suggestion. People who aren't doctors or artists should spare us their "expert" opinions on these topics. Sounds good?
Wow,interesting.
With this logic,only experts in climatology are eligible to give an opinion on climate change and meteorologists are eligible to give an opinion on chemtrailing!
Normal people's opinion has no value because they don't have a degree or expertise!Is that it?
Nice.
I guess,most of the threads should just stop posting anything as people are not "experts" in these topics but are searching for the truth.
Thank you for your suggestion,kind stranger.:)

I don't know what's the opinion on this shapir0 guy in truther community,but,I guess his reaction suits this post.
 

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If you have checked my post on this thread,I actually posted a video created by an asian about transgenderism in kpop,with asian examples.Check their channel and in one of their videos,you can hear their actual voice and realise that they are asian.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/transgender-agenda-in-kpop.6628/page-3#post-246902

I'm assuming you're referring to this video?
And kp0p related,made by a member on kp0p thread,kind of covers most of the groups that've been mentioned on this thread.Check from 41:54
The photo they posted as a reference at 42:34 has Caucasian skulls, Caucasian!! LOOOOL. And they go on to apply Caucasian standards to asian skulls. Brilliant.
The photo says that males have deeper skulls and while that's most often true for Caucasians (I have a deep skull though) asians on the whole have less aerodynamic skulls, they're a lot flatter, blockier, males and females alike. Usually Caucasian females have a round back of the head (A) and males have a straighter one but in asians, most of them have pretty flat back of the head, male and female.
If you want I can through every photo that they have posted and show you were they're wrong and you can check on Google or whatever browser you want if I'm spewing bullshit or not. These things can be verified, unlike other conspiracies.
The next reference photo 43:09 again has Caucasian skulls. The third one at 43:30 again is Caucasian. At 44:08 again Caucasian reference. At 44:50 again they're comparing asian skulls with Caucasian skulls. I didn't bother to watch the rest of the video after that but if you want, I can go through every frame of it and tell you if they're wrong, why they are wrong in their assumptions, with reasons that you can verify in a library and online yourself.

Yes you don't need a degree in this to know bullshit when you see it, but for some reason some of you guys don't seem to want to see the obvious bullshit in your yard. Do you see it now at least?

And what part of them being asian (if they are), makes one qualified to say whether another asian's body is XX or XY?
I've seen plenty of Caucasians getting it wrong about their own race and we're a lot more obvious than all other races when it comes to female/male proportions and traits. Also asians from different countries have different proportions and physical features, just how like Eastern European women usually have longer arms and necks than South-Western European men. Being able to mostly accurately differentiate men and women from your country doesn't make you an expert in doing the same for people of the same race but from other countries. There are a lot of sub-races and as you know Kpop groups don't only have Korean members, they also have Chinese, Japanese, Philipinos, Thai, mixed asians, half Caucasian, etc
People from my part of the European continent don't have a word for "brain-freeze" because we never experience it. For years I thought it was a figure of speech, but we are sensitive to drafts (the currents of air) while other Caucasians countries experience brain-freeze and make fun of our fear of the draft, because they experience no problems with drafts. We may all look Caucasian but we're different sub-races.

I don't think there's any obsession with these things.
Taking the time to compile hundreds of photos doesn't scream obsession, not at all...

Wow,interesting.
With this logic,only experts in climatology are eligible to give an opinion on climate change and meteorologists are eligible to give an opinion on chemtrailing!
Normal people's opinion has no value because they don't have a degree or expertise!Is that it?
Nice.
I guess,most of the threads should just stop posting anything as people are not "experts" in these topics but are searching for the truth.
Actually yes, I do expect someone who is posting often on a topic about climate/chemtrails/physics/whatever to be experienced about those things.
And expressing opinions on whether chemtrails are contrails or not, or climate change is real or not, or the Earth is flat or round doesn't hurt those poor contrails/chemtrails, because it's not about flesh and blood people. There's a big difference...

I'm not claiming that there aren't undercover transgenders in show business but this obsession of seeing transgenders left and right is ridiculous and can be hurtful in the long run
 

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I'm assuming you're referring to this video?

The photo they posted as a reference at 42:34 has Caucasian skulls, Caucasian!! LOOOOL. And they go on to apply Caucasian standards to asian skulls. Brilliant.
The photo says that males have deeper skulls and while that's most often true for Caucasians (I have a deep skull though) asians on the whole have less aerodynamic skulls, they're a lot flatter, blockier, males and females alike. Usually Caucasian females have a round back of the head (A) and males have a straighter one but in asians, most of them have pretty flat back of the head, male and female.
If you want I can through every photo that they have posted and show you were they're wrong and you can check on Google or whatever browser you want if I'm spewing bullshit or not. These things can be verified, unlike other conspiracies.
The next reference photo 43:09 again has Caucasian skulls. The third one at 43:30 again is Caucasian. At 44:08 again Caucasian reference. At 44:50 again they're comparing asian skulls with Caucasian skulls. I didn't bother to watch the rest of the video after that but if you want, I can go through every frame of it and tell you if they're wrong, why they are wrong in their assumptions, with reasons that you can verify in a library and online yourself.

Yes you don't need a degree in this to know bullshit when you see it, but for some reason some of you guys don't seem to want to see the obvious bullshit in your yard. Do you see it now at least?

And what part of them being asian (if they are), makes one qualified to say whether another asian's body is XX or XY?
I've seen plenty of Caucasians getting it wrong about their own race and we're a lot more obvious than all other races when it comes to female/male proportions and traits. Also asians from different countries have different proportions and physical features, just how like Eastern European women usually have longer arms and necks than South-Western European men. Being able to mostly accurately differentiate men and women from your country doesn't make you an expert in doing the same for people of the same race but from other countries. There are a lot of sub-races and as you know Kpop groups don't only have Korean members, they also have Chinese, Japanese, Philipinos, Thai, mixed asians, half Caucasian, etc
People from my part of the European continent don't have a word for "brain-freeze" because we never experience it. For years I thought it was a figure of speech, but we are sensitive to drafts (the currents of air) while other Caucasians countries experience brain-freeze and make fun of our fear of the draft, because they experience no problems with drafts. We may all look Caucasian but we're different sub-races.


Taking the time to compile hundreds of photos doesn't scream obsession, not at all...



Actually yes, I do expect someone who is posting often on a topic about climate/chemtrails/physics/whatever to be experienced about those things.
And expressing opinions on whether chemtrails are contrails or not, or climate change is real or not, or the Earth is flat or round doesn't hurt those poor contrails/chemtrails, because it's not about flesh and blood people. There's a big difference...

I'm not claiming that there aren't undercover transgenders in show business but this obsession of seeing transgenders left and right is ridiculous and can be hurtful in the long run
Yo so if you don't like this thread why are you here??
Any so call woman that have large skull, wide shoulders and no damn hips, long dangle arms, high navel that is above waistline, straight legs with thigh gap(spacing for penis and testicles), flat back and butt that sits low on the body, is a male and was born a male and will die a male. Core DNA cannot be changed. Extra large fake breast and makeup doesn't turn a man into a woman and neither does estrogen shots are surgeries. Forget the label of tagging me transphobic, I've written nothing but the Truth. Truth is Truth and trying to suppress truth is hypocrisy, we live in a time where right is wrong and wrong is right
What is hurtful in the long run is that we are being lied to for decades.
 
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Yo so if you don't like this thread why are you here??
Any so call woman that have large skull, wide shoulders and no damn hips, long dangle arms, high navel that is above waistline, straight legs with thigh gap(spacing for penis and testicles), flat back and butt that sits low on the body, is a male and was born a male and will die a male. Core DNA cannot be changed. Extra large fake breast and makeup doesn't turn a man into a woman and neither does estrogen shots are surgeries. Forget the label of tagging me transphobic, I've written nothing but the Truth. Truth is Truth and trying to suppress truth is hypocrisy, we live in a time where right is wrong and wrong is right
Because:
1. I have the flu so I have no life at the moment
2. I'll be one of the people affected by this
3. because there's a very prolific poster here that keeps bumping this thread up on the first page

Even if there was a man posing as female that had all these attributes you're enumerating, how are you personally affected by this?
I don't think anyone here as transphobic BTW
 
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