How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets with the Bible?

[elsbet]

It's a very simple question. No need for the emotional statement.

lol

There's nothing emotional in that statement. It is God who chooses prophets-- they are not self-appointed or chosen by spirits.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

You're still stuck here, I see.
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You are stuck in fantasy land. A hole.

Regards
DL

 

[Douglas Summers]

It's a very simple question. No need for the emotional statement.

Your reply makes no sense?

 

[Haich]

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Your reply makes no sense?

I posted a general question: what is a prophet according to the bible?

You didn't answer it. You just rambled on about Jesus or something.

 

[Douglas Summers]

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I posted a general question: what is a prophet according to the bible?

You didn't answer it. You just rambled on about Jesus or something.

I did answer it, You just did not like the answer.

 

[Haich]

I did answer it, You just did not like the answer.

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You said that Jesus decides what a prophet is. How did that answer my question? How do you as a Christian know what a prophet is if you can't even tell me what jesus said?

How am I, as a muslim, supposed to know what you believe Jesus said about prophethood?

We don't have dreams and hallucinations like you guys, our answers are clear in our books.

Either you tell me, or just stop quoting my posts.

So tired of these vague and baseless statements you people make.

 

[elsbet]

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You said that Jesus decides what a prophet is. How did that answer my question? How do you as a Christian know what a prophet is if you can't even tell me what jesus said?

How am I, as a muslim, supposed to know what you believe Jesus said about prophethood?

We don't have dreams and hallucinations like you guys, our answers are clear in our books.

How dramatic. If you were really interested, you would have at least done some of your own research. And rather than talking *about* the clarity of your multiple books (some trustworthy, some not trustworthy... depends on who you ask), you would show examples.

Bring something to the table, other than your stale hypocrisy.

I do agree with this, it is people after Jesus that subverted his teachings and deified him into an idol and heretical "incarnation of God".

However it is a fact that Jews definitely see Jesus as the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 13:6
"As for that prophet or dream-diviner, he shall be put to death; for he urged disloyalty to the LORD your God—who freed you from the land of Egypt and who redeemed you from the house of bondage—to make you stray from the path that the LORD your God commanded you to follow. Thus you will sweep out evil from your midst."

That is Deuteronomy 13:5, and an advisory not to follow any prophet who tells you to follow other gods. O the irony.

(Everyone already knows the Jews don't believe Jesus is their messiah-- it's actually in the bible, soo...)

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[Infinityloop]

That is Deuteronomy 13:5, and an advisory not to follow any prophet who tells you to follow other gods. O the irony.

Yes it is ironic, you worship Jesus, no wonder Jews consider Christianity entirely illegitimate. As for the idolatry, yes Jews have a strong point there. Deuteronomy makes a strong case.
You consider Jesus as their messiah, yet he was one of many who have claimed that over the past 2000 years. Jesus has nothing notable about him according to Jews and is considered a false prophet (let alone 'messiah').

(Everyone already knows the Jews don't believe Jesus is their messiah-- it's actually in the bible, soo...)

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The New Testament is YOUR book, not theirs.

 

[Camidria]

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You said that Jesus decides what a prophet is. How did that answer my question? How do you as a Christian know what a prophet is if you can't even tell me what jesus said?

How am I, as a muslim, supposed to know what you believe Jesus said about prophethood?

We don't have dreams and hallucinations like you guys, our answers are clear in our books.

Either you tell me, or just stop quoting my posts.

So tired of these vague and baseless statements you people make.

Hey!
We know a prophet by their fruit, a prophet will give prophetic words, and if what he says came to pass we know he is a true prophet. An example in our present day and age is someone like Jim Laffoon, who has given many prophetic words that has come to pass.
Have a good and blessed day

 

[Haich]

Hey!
We know a prophet by their fruit, a prophet will give prophetic words, and if what he says came to pass we know he is a true prophet. An example in our present day and age is someone like Jim Laffoon, who has given many prophetic words that has come to pass.
Have a good and blessed day

Hi,

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.

That's interesting as prophethood is very different in islam. We believe a prophet is someone who relays the message of monotheism but is chosen by God. In Islam, some of the prophets mentioned in the Quran are:



We believe there were other prophets too as God tells us in the Quran:

“And Messengers We have mentioned to you before, and Messengers We have not mentioned to you”

[an-Nisa’ 4:164]

Verily! We have sent you with the truth, a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner. And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them.”

[Faatir 3524]

So it's important for me to understand what prophethood in Christianity is as it's entirely different to what I believe as a muslim.

We believe that Mohammed pbuh was the last prophet so there are no prophets here now, just preachers and scholars...

Enjoy your day too!

 

[Douglas Summers]

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You said that Jesus decides what a prophet is. How did that answer my question? How do you as a Christian know what a prophet is if you can't even tell me what jesus said?

How am I, as a muslim, supposed to know what you believe Jesus said about prophethood?

We don't have dreams and hallucinations like you guys, our answers are clear in our books.

Either you tell me, or just stop quoting my posts.

So tired of these vague and baseless statements you people make.

Then if a Muslim is your god, then worship it. We worship The Lord God, Who Himself in His incarnation was Prophet, Priest and King. Salvation is built upon the Apostles and Prophets with Christ as the Chief cornerstone. If you do not understand what that means, you should find out...it depends to where your soul spends eternity.

 

[Haich]

Then if a Muslim is your god, then worship it. We worship The Lord God, Who Himself in His incarnation was Prophet, Priest and King. Salvation is built upon the Apostles and Prophets with Christ as the Chief cornerstone. If you do not understand what that means, you should find out...it depends to where your soul spends eternity.

Your fellow Christian Camidria, explained what I'd asked with ease. Why couldn't you do the same?

And NO for crying out loud God is not Muslim! His worshippers are...

What is it with you? If you're gagging to tell me how I can be saved, just explain it instead of telling me to go and find out for myself!

Weirdo

 

[Haich]

Some of the posters here are just stuck on replay, rabbiting on about the same old tosh.

 

[Douglas Summers]

What is it with you? If you're gagging to tell me how I can be saved, just explain it instead of telling me to go and find out for myself!

You are a sinner, just like me. Sin separates us from God. The penalty for sin is death, But Christ paid the penalty for sin in our place and reconciled us to God by repentance and rebirth for those who by faith accept God's grace and mercy . This is built upon the preaching and teaching of the Apostles of Christ and foretold by the prophets of God. All prophets are called of God and are in the Bible as such. Without Christ, all men are already condemned and under the judgment and wrath of God. Ask the Lord to forgive you (a sinner) and repent and God will regenerate you with the Holy Spirit. Then you will not be calling people who believe in God a weirdo because you will understand and rejoice in God's grace.

 

[Infinityloop]

Sin separates us from God.

So are you saying that Sin itself is a second God?

 

[Haich]

You are a sinner, just like me. Sin separates us from God. The penalty for sin is death, But Christ paid the penalty for sin in our place and reconciled us to God by repentance and rebirth for those who by faith accept God's grace and mercy . This is built upon the preaching and teaching of the Apostles of Christ and foretold by the prophets of God. All prophets are called of God and are in the Bible as such. Without Christ, all men are already condemned and under the judgment and wrath of God. Ask the Lord to forgive you (a sinner) and repent and God will regenerate you with the Holy Spirit. Then you will not be calling people who believe in God a weirdo because you will understand and rejoice in God's grace.

I agree we are all sinners. I agree that sin separates from God too. However, I believe that if one sincerely repents and engages in worship and leads a wholesome life, being careful of the company they keep and what they do and say in their free time, it's possible to be forgiven. Only if you're sincere of course...

Thanks for finally explaining what you wanted to say, now I can actually reply to you with some sort of answer.

In Islam, the concept of inheriting sin doesn't exist and every person is responsible for themselves. There is no intermediary between us and God so we pray and worship the creator directly.

Could I ask you, what happens to a child that dies? Are they admitted to heaven?

Ok but if Jesus died for my sins, he died regardless of whether I believe and accept. So am I not saved by default?

 

[Douglas Summers]

So are you saying that Sin itself is a second God?

I did not say that. Do you not know what sin is?

 

[Douglas Summers]

I agree we are all sinners. I agree that sin separates from God too. However, I believe that if one sincerely repents and engages in worship and leads a wholesome life, being careful of the company they keep and what they do and say in their free time, it's possible to be forgiven. Only if you're sincere of course...

Thanks for finally explaining what you wanted to say, now I can actually reply to you with some sort of answer.

In Islam, the concept of inheriting sin doesn't exist and every person is responsible for themselves. There is no intermediary between us and God so we pray and worship the creator directly. So do we pray directly to God the Father, but through Christ or in His name

Could I ask you, what happens to a child that dies? Are they admitted to heaven? All people die, even children...why? Because we all have the nature of Adam, But children are innocent until they reach the age of knowing right from wrong. There will be many babes who will judge those who aborted them in the judgment.

Ok but if Jesus died for my sins, he died regardless of whether I believe and accept. So am I not saved by default?

Jesus died for those who believe Him, that is, He died or payed the penalty required for sin for all men that accept His ransom for our lives, But those who reject Christ ransom are also rejected by God.

 

[Camidria]

Could I ask you, what happens to a child that dies? Are they admitted to heaven?

Children go to heaven, all of them, as they are innocent

 

[Camidria]

Ok but if Jesus died for my sins, he died regardless of whether I believe and accept. So am I not saved by default?

Let your prayer be one night - "God, I do not understand Jesus and this whole thing that the christians say that he died for our sins, I do not believe it (like just be honest with Him about how you feel) but I would like you, the One true God of Abraham to please explain it to me"

I pray that He will answer you