How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets with the Bible?

manama

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You're funny, haich.

Idk anyone who can walk on water or raise the the dead. You?
We also don't know just anyone who can talk to all animal species, who can turn his staff into a serpent, who can melt iron with the touch of his hand and so much more.

Every Prophet had miracles given to just them. That proves nothing.
 

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We also don't know just anyone who can talk to all animal species, who can turn his staff into a serpent, who can melt iron with the touch of his hand and so much more.

Every Prophet had miracles given to just them. That proves nothing.
Muhammed didn't, according to the quran.
 

manama

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Muhammed didn't, according to the quran.
Except the night of mir'aj exists. Almost every prophet has has their own version of a miracle but the miracles are a blessing from God. Moses didn't turn the staff into snake by his own power but by the will of God, Jesus didn't revive the dead of heal the sick by his own power but by the will of God.
 

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If the Bible didn't exist, would you then be an Atheist?
If the sun didn't shine would you then not worship the sun ?

Your question is ridiculous... removed from reality.


It doesn't matter if we agree or not... but there is a God and His book is the Bible.
 
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If the sun didn't shine would you then not worship the sun ?

Your question is ridiculous... removed from reality.


It doesn't matter if we agree or not... but there is a God and His book is the Bible.
Is this your way of telling me that you would be an atheist?
 

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John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Both the Old and the New Testament and Jesus himself are adamant about Him being God.
Yes but no .. he is the word of God made flesh.. but the Bible says he is the second Adam, born of spirit and not earth, who never sinned and Jesus says he can do nothing without his Father, God
The serpent said people can be gods without God.. and Adam believed that. Jesus taught opposite. That's why he is still in the image of God from his Creator, unlike Adam
 
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Yes but no .. he is the word of God made flesh.. but the Bible says he is the second Adam, born of spirit and not earth, who never sinned and Jesus says he can do nothing without his Father, God
The serpent said people can be gods without God.. and Adam believed that. Jesus taught opposite. That's why he is still in the image of God from his Creator, unlike Adam
Do you see Jesus teaching the opposite with these, or is he affirming that we too are to take the judgement seat from our Fathers just as he did?

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

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How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets, while taking the Bible as their authority?

This is another question I want to see answered with actual honesty and not self-righteous elitism.
How can Christians do that when the bible itself says that to perfect our wisdom, we have to get away from the Christian dogma and seek elsewhere?

Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

As to trusting the prophets.

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)

The bible scribes knew they were giving immature ideas that should not be literally believed.

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Is this your way of telling me that you would be an atheist?
It's my way of saying that there is a sun and so it's ridiculous to pretend that there is no sun.

Same with God and the Bible... reality is that there is a God and a Bible... and so it's ridiculous to pretend there is not.
 

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Yes but no .. he is the word of God made flesh.. but the Bible says he is the second Adam, born of spirit and not earth, who never sinned and Jesus says he can do nothing without his Father, God
The serpent said people can be gods without God.. and Adam believed that. Jesus taught opposite. That's why he is still in the image of God from his Creator, unlike Adam
No you got that wrong.

Jesus Christ is the Creator and not a creation.

God clothed Himself in flesh.


Now God is more than man.

The composition of God is Threefold.

And that's why the Father is God and the Word is God and the Spirit is God.


And it's all Good.
 
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How can Christians do that when the bible itself says that to perfect our wisdom, we have to get away from the Christian dogma and seek elsewhere?

Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
You're still stuck here, I see.



Hebrews 5:13
 

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If the Bible didn't exist, would you be an atheist? YES or NO?
Very unlikely. Children are often keenly aware, and inherently understand the presence of our God, long before they can read the material.
He is far from silent.

...some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Him [Jesus], “Teacher, rebuke Your disciples!” “I tell you,” He answered, “if they remain silent, the very stones will cry out.”

Fortunately, it isn't an issue.
 
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