Gun crime and the problem of legislating against the human heart

r8dr_rider

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No one person needs all that firepower. A militia, an actual militia, is something different. So no, not try again.

I believe in the right to bear arms but there has to be some responsibility as well.
What’s wrong with one person with 20 guns? They can only shoot one gun at a time. I believe in responsibility as well. I’m all for Background check and licenses if need be. But don’t limit the amount of guns or ammo I can buy
 

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Well what would you think is common sense gun reform?
None. There are plenty of laws already. The conversation should be about gangs/thugs if we're talking about gun violence and mental health if we're talking about mass shooters.
 

justjess

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None. There are plenty of laws already. The conversation should be about gangs/thugs if we're talking about gun violence and mental health if we're talking about mass shooters.
Plenty of laws? Nearly all of them have massive loopholes. You need a background check - unless it’s a private sale. You can’t have violent crimes on your record - unless it’s against your wife. These are problematic for me. Period.

As for twenty guns... why? Why does anyone need that amount of guns? Maybe the amount of guns doesn’t matter because your right you can only shoot one (maybe two but unlikely) at a time but there has to come to some point where a persons weapon buying behavior is viewed as suspicious. Maybe it’s the ammo? Idk. All I do know is that when this many guns are floating around in a country with some serious mental health and anger issues it’s a perfect stoRm..

The answer isn’t in taking everyone’s guns away. But the answer isn’t in doing nothing either.
 

justjess

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I don't want the burden of background checks put on private sellers.

I can see your concern there but I think the abusive spouse would do something more violent than shooting.
I’m not entirely sure what’s more violent then murdering someone tbh

I guess I don’t see how you justify a giant loophole that would allow a predicate violent felon to buy a gun he is legally barred from owning.
 

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I’m not entirely sure what’s more violent then murdering someone tbh
I meant murdering more violently..like choking/beating to death.
I guess I don’t see how you justify a giant loophole that would allow a predicate violent felon to buy a gun he is legally barred from owning.
I don't see the felon paying market value. He'll buy a hot gun. Also I don't think felons should be banned from buying guns.
 

justjess

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I meant murdering more violently..like choking/beating to death.

I don't see the felon paying market value. He'll buy a hot gun. Also I don't think felons should be banned from buying guns.
But see these are a lot of assumptions...

We know domestic violence victims are more likely to be murdered if there’s a gun in the home. We know that. It takes a lot more effort and thought to kill someone without it and there’s a lot more opportunity to escape if they try.

I’m also not sure hot guns are any cheaper. In my limited experience they aren’t. Crooks charge a premium for providing the opportunity to bypass laws.

I don’t think it should be a blanket ban on felons but I do think there are some types of felons who should absolutely never be able to get their hands on a gun.
 
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