The Coming Saviors – Moshiach, Messiah & Mahdi

Lisa

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I firmly believe you are a polythiest and have associated partners with God. I don't believe you are 'in Christ'. You didn't even attempt to understand the origins and authentic idea behind the trinitarian doctrine. You've closed your heart to God's Immanence in ALL and instead just made Jesus into 'fully God' which is complete madness.
When you have such polythiestic beliefs, you can't have a connection to Jesus. That's why Jesus was talking about most 'christians' eg they say they believed in Jesus, drove out demons in his name etc but 'i never knew you' (no spiritual connection).
I suppose you could believe that..but I have read the Bible and I believe that there is a doctrine that many people can’t really understand, because we really don’t know how to believe in one God who is also 3, unless you say one God 3 different roles..but then again, that also is hard to understand unless you compare to...of all things..an egg. 1 egg, 3 different roles..eggshell, egg white and yolk. But we say its one egg.

The holy spirit and all the blessings that come through a spiritual union with Jesus Christ, only come once you have that spiritual connection. That connection doesnt come from belief alone, but by rejecting all 'else' that means you cannot be a wordly person. Think in terms of martydom, no self interest.
Personally i think most people have a different nature. only the very pure have that particular blessing.
No one is like that...and God isn’t looking to have perfect, just moldable people who want to do His will.

Just look at the how in the bible, there is talk of a special remnant (from the israelites)..why can't people just opt in on their own merit? why is it a pre-selected group of people who God knows, many of whom don't even posess the correct belief, but God has pre-selected them? same with prophethood in the past..God chose Jeremiah.
The Jews are still God chosen people because of God’s everlasting covenant with Abraham.

it applies to you, then all th things Jesus instructed/demanded from the diciples....also apply to you.
You know 'pick up the cross and follow me'?
it has nothing to do with being saved by the blood of christ, that's totally something else.
you are just saying shit that you think sounds good, devoid of it's actual context.
You start out saved by the blood of Jesus...you can’t work you way to Him..you have to believe in Him and His sacrifice for you first before any of that even comes to pass. Nope not talking smack lol!

you can't be a sinner and a bad person and yet have the holy spirit. it is the ultimate diss..it means the holy spirit is useless.
what's the point then?
ok granted, no one is perfect, but people who are given the holy spirit throughout history have usually been pious people or posessing a special quality that made God choose them. Paul for example called himself a 'sinner' but in truth, he was a good guy (just look at how he and the other chosen ones died).
Christians are just sinners saved by grace..not of themselves, the only people the Holy Spirit can come in to are sinners, we don’t have our sins removed by God or the ability to sin removed. The way they chose to die didn’t make them good people.

You're telling me there are 100m christians just like you, who all have the holy spirit?
i doubt there are even 10 people in the world right now with the holy spirit. serious talk.
In my view, it is actually a mockery, to claim you have the holy spirit. It is cringeworthy.

also, if you're so against the catholics, why do you follow THEIR DOCTRINE?
The catholic church in rome was the one that ultimately created the doctrine.
I don’t know how many actual Christians there are in the world but I bet there are way more than 10. It is Biblical to say I have the Holy Spirit and not a mockery at all.
John‬ ‭14:16-17‬ ‭
I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
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I don’t follow catholic doctrine..they actually got that right in that there is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit..but I doubt they know the whole truth because they pollute it with Mary.

are far far far more powerful spiritually than the very small/select group of elite who rule the world.
How’s that?

Whatever happened to 'faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains'??
you don't really have much faith if you think satan is more powerful than 1m or 100m or however many christians have the holy spirit.

lmfao at 'world's rule is Satan NOT GOD'
this is despite you believing Jesus saved the world.
I guess it depends on what the Holy Spirit is all about..He’s not about ruling the world or controlling it, He’s about saving people from hell through Jesus, that’s God’s goal in this world.
Satan isn’t God but he is ruler of the world.
John‬ ‭12:31‬ ‭
Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.
No he never mentioned you. He was talking to his disciples.
I am a disciple...
Matthew‬ ‭28:19‬ ‭
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
‭‭And there is that pesky trinity again...

did you die when Jesus died? ie are you so spiritually connected to him, that the death of his carnal/flesh nature was also reflected in you?
if your heart was a mirror to Jesus...surely it would have?
the problem is your beliefs are just muddled up and you don't know what you really believe anymore.
Yep!
Colossians‬ ‭3:3‬ ‭
For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.​
I know what I believe and know how to talk about it better than I used to.
the irony there is that you believe God became a man in order to demonstrate his Love. in otherwords we were supposed to 'understand God by human means'.
No, He did become man in order to be the redeemer we needed but He was still God so that He could fulfill the law.
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Quran says it was Allah (God) who sent Gabriel to deliver the Quran to Mohammad.
Prince ? Prince means male relative of someone with highest authority.

all messengers and Prophets were Human so why then this so called archangel JAH came to earth in human shape.
how do you prove he is angel ?
JAH has published a Book, called "The Way home or face The Fire" and it explains everything: http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm
Peace be upon you.
 
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He is an angel so if he could come to me please, i dont have time reading a book.
That is very arrogant. Has Satan made you forget what it says about arrogance, in the Qur'an?

"Those who stand against Muad'Dib will spend eternity regretting it, in The Lake of Fire and Brimstone." - Muad'Dib.
 
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Insightful article -

The Coming Saviors – Moshiach, Messiah & Mahdi

The Jews are awaiting The Moshiach; the Christians are awaiting The Messiah; the Muslims are awaiting The Mahdi; but, what if they are all awaiting the same person?
They are not. The Mahdi myth directly contradicts Who the Christian Messiah is. The Mahdi myth claims the Mahdi will turn the world Muslim and that Jesus will be his sidekick, slaughtering all who do not turn Muslim, including Christians devoted to Jesus. It is absolutely impossible that they are all the same person being waited on.
 

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According to the Koran, when studied by itself, the Mahdi and Messiah/Christ have to be one and the same,.
"when studied by itself". The Koran falls apart when studied with the Christian bible. It directly contradicts the bible and it shows itself for what it is - a mess. The Koran can't take the scrutiny.
 

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He will show all the wrong things inserted by men in the bible without authority ...
I don't follow what you are saying. How can men insert things in the bible when in fact the entire bible was written by men to begin with? The bible was put together by the Catholic church at 3 different council meetings in the 300s. The men there decided what was 'of God' and what wasn't. They had thousands of books, letters, poems, etc to go through and to choose from. Is the Catholic Church the 'authority' that you are talking about?
 
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