I’m not but I think addicts are the majority.
You think. And when you combine drug
and alcohol abuse, you're correct; 38% abuse alcohol and 26% abuse drugs. Even if you ignore overlap, that still leaves
at least 36% who are clean. You're also realizing there are
reasons why homeless people turn to addiction that won't be solved but snubbing them.
https://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/addiction.pdf
The catholic charities have showers where the homeless are. And I think with addicts it’s hard because they want the drugs or that drink.
Thank God for them. But when I mean "clean" I mean breaking their drug and/or alcohol addiction. Very few people can quit cold turkey.
Do you care that that is all your doing..you aren’t solving homelessness by doing that and homelessness creates more problems.
Homelessness won't be solved until we realize that our financial and economic systems aren't designed to help the poor and demand change. Until then, all we can do is try and offer some degree of succor. Ignoring them isn't going to help.
I didn’t say they didn’t have value...they are human and I hope they can come out of it too, I just don’t see feeding them as being the solution to homelessness. Do they deserve to eat if they won’t even help themselves? If they won’t do something for the food but show up?
Yes. Even if someone does absolutely nothing, they deserve to eat. No human being deserves to go hungry. Period. No exception.
Why? Wasn’t it a poor choice to start on drugs or drinking? Isn’t it selfishness to keep going although you were probably told by family and or friends that you weren’t a good person to be around while drinking or doing drugs? I worked with a girl who told me her parents were divorced because her mom wanted to drink more than she wanted to be a family...
To begin, addiction is an
illness. It's a physical and psychological dependency. And people make mistakes. There isn't a human being on this planet who is perfect.
Being a Christian is the issue.
I'm pretty sure it isn't. No one seems to have an issue with my faith.
We believe something other than what the world believes about problems, we believe people are sinners and that makes people mad. Then they don’t understand that even though you are saved, you aren’t perfect and still have sins that God is working on.
No. People get upset, when you call out their sins, publically, while keeping yours in the dark. They get upset when rather than understanding most sin doesn't come from a plance of malice, that you refuse to try to understand and sit on a high horse. Like you are doing, looking down on homeless people.
They think then it’s hypocritical of you to even say anything to them even though you know that you still have God working on you but you’re still supposed to tell the unsaved the Good News.
To tell people about the Good News one must first let people know about sin so it would seem like they are being judgemental or self righteousness when they are actually just letting you know what constitutes sin, something they as a Christian also had to confess when they came to Christ.
Ya, being saved by grace through faith is easier than going to hell for your sins. Even Jesus said;
MATTHEW 11:28-30
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Here's the thing. If someone is in a bad place, you telling them that Jesus makes it easier doesn't help them if they aren't a believer. If you're homeless, you need more than prayers. You did a hand up. You need someone to show some Christ-like love. And that's the problem with a lot of Christians these days. They don't want to be Christ-like; say they are saved but don't try to get their hands dirty in making the world the sort of place Christ would be pleased His followers tried when He returns.
If I murder someone would you say I deserve prison? Sometimes bad choices have negative consequences and I think they should so you would think twice about doing it.
You would. Since you took another person's life; you hurt another person. But depending on the circumstances, I might not think you deserve to be in prison for life and I certainly don't think you deserve to be executed; even if you were a serial killer. Your life would still have value.
If being an addict had a very negative connotation maybe then people would think twice about it. But there are people even on the forum ok with marijuana.
Most people who become addicts don't care all that much about the negative social stigma since many of them feel abandoned by society in the first place. I mean, the homeless veteran who's an alcoholic or the runaway who's got a heroin problem really didn't have people help them BEFORE they had a drug problem... And if everyone thought like you, no one would be there for them now.
People are wanting it to be legal for people to do magic mushrooms...where does that end? Will we don’t out more and more now that all the illegal drugs should be legal because they ‘help’ something? There is an opioid epidemic where people are getting those kinds of drugs somehow. We seem to make it easier and easier on people to become addicts.
Because addicts are
sick. And we have an opioid epidemic because the war on drugs have hurt alterntive treatments for pain. And obviously, you've never had to watch someone suffer in chronic, unbarable pain you actually loved because if you did, you'd be more than willing to give them magic mushrooms if it owuld help ease their suffering. But that's another topic.
I never said that I feel bad about the system..again...I just don’t think it’s helping homelessness.
I mean it's fairly obvious you don't feel bad about the suffering of the homeless if you're willing to dismiss them all as addicts and think they can just rot away.
I didn’t say they deserve anything, except a free life to continue in their addictions and I think enabling people is sad and not helpful.
You might think its "sad to enable" someone... But again, unless addicts (which don't even makeup all the homeless) have their basic needs met, they aren't going to be able to get clean... And if you don't think they deserve to eat, well...
Ya, but He didn’t command to feed someone for life. Wasn’t it odd that the righteous had no idea that they had done all of that...
If someone is unable to get food themselves and you snub them and they starve, you murdered them. Period. Apathy is the whole reason they world is in the shape it is in the first place - and it's explictly the thing Christ spoke against.