BTS discussion thread

[Brea]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with what you said about selling your soul and never getting it back ,yeah it seems as all hope is lost when you get involved in this dark business and we all know its hard to break out and still remain alive afterwards See its really all deception the devil is a liar ,the father of lies ,while these idols trapped in this situation are all still alive they can still turn away from this and redeem themselves and be right with God. He will still forgive them and love them as he always has ,the only thing that would doom you with no way out and any room for forgiveness is accepting the mark of the beast.

I 100% agree! I stated in my last comment that selling your soul is basically like taking the mark of the beast. Do that, and salvation is free no more for you.

 

[Hopeful]

It's not in their hands to look girly and all.. That's how the way it is for kp0p idols.. If we compare their normal day images they hate wearing makeups and jewelry.. No rings on hands. No harnesses no chains in necks. Just a simple pendant and that too rarely.

And if we compare their childhood pictures with now.. They still possess the same features as today except a little a little nose change in Rm because he had to go through surgery.
They lost weight.. Their routines and diets changed and most importantly their ages changed.. So with time you do change.. They baby fat gets removed.
And jh0pe was chosen by the korean media as one of the idols who had Naturally beautiful features without surgery of course.. There were only 6 in the list

Not even taehyung or j1min or j1n made into that list.. It was only jh0pe and we know how strict Kmedia is towards Beetees. So yes i disagree he had any surgery at all. And besides a person who gets scared of the most tiniest noises.. Cannot go under a knife..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1034006737672593409

 

[softpower]

Halsey got inducted into songwriter hall of fame and everyone knows that she doesn't write any unless she is a ghost writer herself.
Perks of being an official girl.
Her recent collab got her the new recognition.No wonder she is ready to jump to their rescue in any part of the world,free hugs and all and even chiding army on bt5 and company's behalf.

There is no way this bitch hasnt done anything shady with them. I am starting to get convinced she mustve slept around with one of them ( or two or even more idk ). She has been killing it these times and Hall of Fame aint no joke. I am pretty sure it has sth to do with NJ, she used to praise him a lot back in the days, I remember her wearing a koya hoodie. Thats how they make it public ya know. Just like John Cena, and Jimmy Fallon with the Chimmy thing.
Damn, I wish it wasnt true, but everything is possible if you fuck hard enough.

 

[Deadlylady]

It's not in their hands to look girly and all.. That's how the way it is for kp0p idols.. If we compare their normal day images they hate wearing makeups and jewelry.. No rings on hands. No harnesses no chains in necks. Just a simple pendant and that too rarely.

And if we compare their childhood pictures with now.. They still possess the same features as today except a little a little nose change in Rm because he had to go through surgery.
They lost weight.. Their routines and diets changed and most importantly their ages changed.. So with time you do change.. They baby fat gets removed.
And jh0pe was chosen by the korean media as one of the idols who had Naturally beautiful features without surgery of course.. There were only 6 in the list

Not even taehyung or j1min or j1n made into that list.. It was only jh0pe and we know how strict Kmedia is towards Beetees. So yes i disagree he had any surgery at all. And besides a person who gets scared of the most tiniest noises.. Cannot go under a knife..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1034006737672593409

The thing is sk surgeons do very little touch ups so you don't even realize there is work done.





https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/09/02/bts-addicted-plastic-surgery-beverly-hills/

 

[softpower]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with what you said about selling your soul and never getting it back ,yeah it seems as all hope is lost when you get involved in this dark business and we all know its hard to break out and still remain alive afterwards See its really all deception the devil is a liar ,the father of lies ,while these idols trapped in this situation are all still alive they can still turn away from this and redeem themselves and be right with God. He will still forgive them and love them as he always has ,the only thing that would doom you with no way out and any room for forgiveness is accepting the mark of the beast.

What if they DON'T want to repent ??? Do you ever consider that ?
At this point, I am pretty sure they would never trade drinking champagne on jets with normal 9 to 5 jobs. This is just wishful thinking of you. I know you want them to repent, but there are certain things you see and do when you join that you can never be the same again after. It becomes normal, like...really normal.

You want a new deal ? Fuck around with the investors.

You want a solo song ? Fuck the CEO.

You want to hit the charts ? A few satanic rituals, some blowjobs here and there and youre good to go.

It is what it is and has been like that for many years now. You cant change the industry. Them surviving for this long just shows once again that they don't actually want to turn back. Please stop with the pitying, they dont need it.

 

[softpower]

Why are we even discussing this? If they don't want to repent then they are indeed damned for eternity period. You don't have explain the details of their decadent, degraded, wretched life behind the doors. Which I still hope they are not doing no matter what. Because we are all human at the end of the day. I prefer to hope for the best for everybody. They are the sons of parents. I hope they will realize some day of the mistakes they have made and repent. Maybe a friend or a family member will help them later on. God is the most merciful. You can't say there is no going back. Only god knows, and also only god can judge people. There is still a chance for everybody until they die.

You see now why we are still discussing this ? Cause most of you still cant accept the fact they dont want to repent. Dont think that everyone is religious and goes on within the norms. What I am trying to say here is FACE IT. They will never be like you, they will never pray to Jesus or whatever deity, they will never return to being moral after all the immoralities they have done. They are way past the point of no return. Period. Stop praying for them to repent.

 

[Truthteller]

Halsey got inducted into songwriter hall of fame and everyone knows that she doesn't write any unless she is a ghost writer herself.
Perks of being an official girl.
Her recent collab got her the new recognition.No wonder she is ready to jump to their rescue in any part of the world,free hugs and all and even chiding army on bt5 and company's behalf.

Sorry but I doubt this has anything to do with her collab. She has been promoted by the industry for a while and has quite a a few hits. She performed at Victoria’s secret which is only given to the ”in artists” of the day. How do you know she doesn’t write music. Artists collab all the time, nothing new. Stop putting Bts on a pedestal and relate other people’s success to them, much like their fandom.If anything Bts need her to get mainstream in the US, not the other way around.

 

[softpower]

Eh, I agree with you 99 percent but there's no need to say no one is special just because bts doesn't care about their fans. I personally DISLIKE my appearance and how I sound and kind of how I act, but I'm reminded that I'm special only because God made me. So I'm not going to insult you back, I'm just going to say you're a very special person who likes to speak whatever's on your mind. Keep on posting! You're actually pretty interesting XD

I am sorry you misunderstood it, I meant special in like an unique way of thinking. Most armys have hive mentality, so I dont see originality in any of them, hence I dont think the boys would actually love people that act like bots. They just praise armys to fuel their devotion to them. Armys are the batteries they keep their energy going (literally).

 

[softpower]

Sorry but I doubt this has anything to do with her collab. She has been promoted by the industry for a while and has quite a a few hits. She performed at Victoria’s secret which is only given to the ”in artists” of the day. How do you know she doesn’t write music. Artists collab all the time, nothing new. Stop putting Bts on a pedestal and relate other people’s success to them, much like their fandom.If anything Bts need her to get mainstream in the US, not the other way around.

Bts cant get to mainstream cause most normal people dont support the language, not that they need collabs. I mean...seriously ??? You really think Halsey, Charli xcx, Zara Larsson or Nicki Minaj will get you pushed to the mainstream ? They are not that famous themselves. They are the ones who NEED bts, jumping in their bandwagon to catch a few fans to follow them. Bts is just using them cause they know that. If they wanted mainstream attention they might as well get someone like Dua Lipa for it, like Blackpink did. Those bitches became famous overnight with her.

 

[softpower]

Yeah whatever you say, keep your delusions. BTS or Dua Lipa more famous than Nicki Minaj
j who has been in the game for 10 years? Yes whatever you say. They are not mainstream that is why they get radioplay, get on billboard (mainstream award show), appear on every single American night or daytime talk show, get trending using bots with no consequences. I just wish this thread wouldn’t get spammed by Army trolls. Id the gp doesn’t care for them despite all these efforts it is because they don’t like it. BP have the more views that Bts, bet that hurts.

C'mon dude, they get played on the radio and get on billboards cause armys are crazy about them, they request them a lot. Have you actually seen the real charts after a few weeks from their comeback ? They barely make it. Cause the hype dies down. Talk shows are also payed. American media advertises them cause they have powerful investors in the game, plus a full package agenda behind them.
Armys are everywhere cause young people are impressionable and kpop is unlike anything you see in the west. That doesnt mean they are mainstream. Armys are just like those Fortnite players, everyone knows what Fortnite is, but not everyone likes to play videogames, no matter the publicity.
Also Nicki Minaj hype has actually died down a bit, since Cardi entered the game. I bet you most Nickis fans dont have an idea a collab with bts exists lol.

Also thanks for calling me a troll. Seems like talking the bare naked truth gets you ridiculed nowadays. Okay then, Ill just roll with it lmao...

 

[Deadlylady]

Bts cant get to mainstream cause most normal people dont support the language, not that they need collabs. I mean...seriously ??? You really think Halsey, Charli xcx, Zara Larsson or Nicki Minaj will get you pushed to the mainstream ? They are not that famous themselves. They are the ones who NEED bts, jumping in their bandwagon to catch a few fans to follow them. Bts is just using them cause they know that. If they wanted mainstream attention they might as well get someone like Dua Lipa for it, like Blackpink did. Those bitches became famous overnight with her.

bt5 can't do full english songs because maybe they suck at it and also that would cause them to be irrevelant in the kpop game. So they don't want to take risks. They are playing a safe game like this, they had collabs but were they really collabs? No real interaction with the girls and the songs are either for a game or a very short appareance like h@lsey.


The funniest thing the flower boys doing rap. Also jamal doing s@t@nic handsign looking up. I guess you guys are right and they think he is god. At least acts like it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1139870027828596736

 

[Truthteller]

It's an open secret in the industry that she doesn't write any songs.You might be right that this might not have anything to do with the collab.But,boyz ll men got their tour only after one of them covered bt5's songs.
Halsey was dragged into eminem*mgk rap feud too,just so you know.
And the decision for her induction into hall of fame and the reasons behind it have been revealed in a blind around april,when bwl song was released,just saying.Don't you think the timing is suspicious?
I'm not putting them on a pedestal and if I come across so,I'll make sure not to.

She is another industry darling serving a certain agenda in similar lines with BTS. But saying that she got inducted because of BTS is just... she got inducted because of all the things she has been doing not just a collab, regardless of skill. She probably uses ghost writers like everyone else.

C'mon dude, they get played on the radio and get on billboards cause armys are crazy about them, they request them a lot. Have you actually seen the real charts after a few weeks from their comeback ? They barely make it. Cause the hype dies down. Talk shows are also payed. American media advertises them cause they have powerful investors in the game, plus a full package agenda behind them.
Armys are everywhere cause young people are impressionable and kpop is unlike anything you see in the west. That doesnt mean they are mainstream. Armys are just like those Fortnite players, everyone knows what Fortnite is, but not everyone likes to play videogames, no matter the publicity.
Also Nicki Minaj hype has actually died down a bit, since Cardi entered the game. I bet you most Nickis fans dont have an idea a collab with bts exists lol.

Also thanks for calling me a troll. Seems like talking the bare naked truth gets you ridiculed nowadays. Okay then, Ill just roll with it lmao...

By maintream I meant promoted by the mainstream media and elite, not liked by the gp. In that sense BTS are very mainstream. Anyhow artists collaborations happen all the time, there is mutual benefit for both parties, geting fans from the other artist among other things. But is is clear that they need these artists to at last appeal more to western audiences. The real deal is the fact the western artists compose and produce their songs for them, that is even more important than open collabs.

 

[softpower]

bt5 can't do full english songs because maybe they suck at it and also that would cause them to be irrevelant in the kpop game. So they don't want to take risks. They are playing a safe game like this, they had collabs but were they really collabs? No real interaction with the girls and the songs are either for a game or a very short appareance like h@lsey.

yuh. I mean...waste it on me was a total disaster. The song itself is pretty good tbh, but bts singing it is plain weird. It doesnt fit in with their image. I guess it was just to test waters and turned out fans liked them better in their native language. Thats normal if you think about, if they wanted an english group, they might as well just stick to 1D old songs. Their charms are part of their culture identity.

 

[Deadlylady]

yuh. I mean...waste it on me was a total disaster. The song itself is pretty good tbh, but bts singing it is plain weird. It doesnt fit in with their image. I guess it was just to test waters and turned out fans liked them better in their native language. Thats normal if you think about, if they wanted an english group, they might as well just stick to 1D old songs. Their charms are part of their culture identity.

Yes because once they sing in english the spell is broken and the audience has already high standards. In the west singers have to have great vocals, dance is not that important. But in their industry dancing is more important it seems like. And those guys except kook they are mainly rappers and dancers or just good looking lol.

 

[Brea]

Hello peeps. I randomly woke up at night but I wanted to share this dream before my sleep schedule gets messed up.

I dreamt I was at home and there were Christian decor on my living room walls. I was with my parents and my sister. It was night time and we were just chilling down stairs. I had went to the door to look out and I seen THE MOST CREEPIEST thing ever. It was one of the members! At first I didn't know which one it was, but during the dream I thought, "Oh didn't these people say that Namjoon was the main one creating spells and involved in sorcery and demonic magic and stuff?" So it was him specifically.

He was just standing (not on my porch) but like outside on grass and his back was facing me yet he turned his head to look at me, and his eyes wouldn't leave mines. His face was... there was a bright red light on his face but you could still see his eyes, nose, and mouth. I told my parents to get some weapons, my sister got the biggest knife she could find, and I got a frying pan. My sister said "If they try anything, attack them" And I saw the rest of the members but they were waking towards Namjoon.

And then a few of them started coming to the door and it was locked, but I have 2 doors (one outside the second door, and the second door being inside... idk if you get it) but they kept looking through the window and shouting something like "LET US IN!!" I couldn't hear them correctly, but they seen the Christian decor and they were talking about Jesus I believe. Namjoon and Suga continued staring at me through the door from afar. Tae was also staring at me but he had on a black hood and the emotions on his face were both anger and sadness. The rest of the members kept on knocking at my door but I didn't open it.

So later on during the daytime, they were gone and my sister said, "What is it with people running up to the door and wanting to come in?" I then remembered that sometimes people of Christ get attacked by demons in disguise, like one day you can simply walk out the store and all of a sudden you can see people (demons) staring at you or kind of rushing past you. But in this case, I believe the members were actually the members, some of them might have been demons, but some of them weren't.

Anyways, these kids, well 2 girls, they were involved in satanism somehow and I was just walking out the door and then they seen me and ran to me talking about Jesus, I don't know what they were saying about him. That's the part I never got but I told them "No" and stuff and they got mad but one of them disappeared and the other one ran away.

It was night time again, my mom was like "Oh the members are coming again! Get your weapons!" And the members were smiling and walking as if they were having a good day until they all looked at my door once again, and started freaking out (not in the bad way) and started pounding on my door. I ran to the top of the stairs. The doors were still locked, but one member somehow APPEARED? in my house. It was tae! He still had on his black hood and he was rushing up the stairs. (Somehow my parents or sister didn't see him, only I did) and he looked scared, he said "HELP ME!! THEY'RE ALL EVIL!! I JUST WANT CHRIST!! BUT I'M DAMNED!! PLEASE HELP ME" and then the other members disappeared. The last thing I saw was taes scared face and then I woke up.

So while typing this I'm starting to realize something. I believe the part where they were coming back the SECOND time, they were smiling and acting normal because of army, you know they have to ACT and pretend they love them? I believe that's why, but as soon as they seen people of Christ, they started attacking like freaking demons which represents their true selves. And I think the first time they appeared with Namjoon being the first was because he was in control of the members and told them to attack my family and I. (You know how satan deceived 1/3 of the angels and convinced them to fight against God and his angels that remained on his side) he influenced the other members something like that.

However tae seems like... I don't even know. He seemed so regretful. Well that's my dream! Please reply and tell me what you personally think because I'm just... I don't even know.

 

[softpower]

Hello peeps. I randomly woke up at night but I wanted to share this dream before my sleep schedule gets messed up.

I dreamt I was at home and there were Christian decor on my living room walls. I was with my parents and my sister. It was night time and we were just chilling down stairs. I had went to the door to look out and I seen THE MOST CREEPIEST thing ever. It was one of the members! At first I didn't know which one it was, but during the dream I thought, "Oh didn't these people say that Namjoon was the main one creating spells and involved in sorcery and demonic magic and stuff?" So it was him specifically.

He was just standing (not on my porch) but like outside on grass and his back was facing me yet he turned his head to look at me, and his eyes wouldn't leave mines. His face was... there was a bright red light on his face but you could still see his eyes, nose, and mouth. I told my parents to get some weapons, my sister got the biggest knife she could find, and I got a frying pan. My sister said "If they try anything, attack them" And I saw the rest of the members but they were waking towards Namjoon.

And then a few of them started coming to the door and it was locked, but I have 2 doors (one outside the second door, and the second door being inside... idk if you get it) but they kept looking through the window and shouting something like "LET US IN!!" I couldn't hear them correctly, but they seen the Christian decor and they were talking about Jesus I believe. Namjoon and Suga continued staring at me through the door from afar. Tae was also staring at me but he had on a black hood and the emotions on his face were both anger and sadness. The rest of the members kept on knocking at my door but I didn't open it.

So later on during the daytime, they were gone and my sister said, "What is it with people running up to the door and wanting to come in?" I then remembered that sometimes people of Christ get attacked by demons in disguise, like one day you can simply walk out the store and all of a sudden you can see people (demons) staring at you or kind of rushing past you. But in this case, I believe the members were actually the members, some of them might have been demons, but some of them weren't.

Anyways, these kids, well 2 girls, they were involved in satanism somehow and I was just walking out the door and then they seen me and ran to me talking about Jesus, I don't know what they were saying about him. That's the part I never got but I told them "No" and stuff and they got mad but one of them disappeared and the other one ran away.

It was night time again, my mom was like "Oh the members are coming again! Get your weapons!" And the members were smiling and walking as if they were having a good day until they all looked at my door once again, and started freaking out (not in the bad way) and started pounding on my door. I ran to the top of the stairs. The doors were still locked, but one member somehow APPEARED? in my house. It was tae! He still had on his black hood and he was rushing up the stairs. (Somehow my parents or sister didn't see him, only I did) and he looked scared, he said "HELP ME!! THEY'RE ALL EVIL!! I JUST WANT CHRIST!! BUT I'M DAMNED!! PLEASE HELP ME" and then the other members disappeared. The last thing I saw was taes scared face and then I woke up.

So while typing this I'm starting to realize something. I believe the part where they were coming back the SECOND time, they were smiling and acting normal because of army, you know they have to ACT and pretend they love them? I believe that's why, but as soon as they seen people of Christ, they started attacking like freaking demons which represents their true selves. And I think the first time they appeared with Namjoon being the first was because he was in control of the members and told them to attack my family and I. (You know how satan deceived 1/3 of the angels and convinced them to fight against God and his angels that remained on his side) he influenced the other members something like that.

However tae seems like... I don't even know. He seemed so regretful. Well that's my dream! Please reply and tell me what you personally think because I'm just... I don't even know.

Damn, I am not a religious person myself, but this is really creepy. I think you should try to detox yourself from them for a while. Also, if it makes you feel any better, don't come to this thread until you are truly feeling safe.

 

[Shuna]

Hello peeps. I randomly woke up at night but I wanted to share this dream before my sleep schedule gets messed up.

I dreamt I was at home and there were Christian decor on my living room walls. I was with my parents and my sister. It was night time and we were just chilling down stairs. I had went to the door to look out and I seen THE MOST CREEPIEST thing ever. It was one of the members! At first I didn't know which one it was, but during the dream I thought, "Oh didn't these people say that Namjoon was the main one creating spells and involved in sorcery and demonic magic and stuff?" So it was him specifically.

He was just standing (not on my porch) but like outside on grass and his back was facing me yet he turned his head to look at me, and his eyes wouldn't leave mines. His face was... there was a bright red light on his face but you could still see his eyes, nose, and mouth. I told my parents to get some weapons, my sister got the biggest knife she could find, and I got a frying pan. My sister said "If they try anything, attack them" And I saw the rest of the members but they were waking towards Namjoon.

And then a few of them started coming to the door and it was locked, but I have 2 doors (one outside the second door, and the second door being inside... idk if you get it) but they kept looking through the window and shouting something like "LET US IN!!" I couldn't hear them correctly, but they seen the Christian decor and they were talking about Jesus I believe. Namjoon and Suga continued staring at me through the door from afar. Tae was also staring at me but he had on a black hood and the emotions on his face were both anger and sadness. The rest of the members kept on knocking at my door but I didn't open it.

So later on during the daytime, they were gone and my sister said, "What is it with people running up to the door and wanting to come in?" I then remembered that sometimes people of Christ get attacked by demons in disguise, like one day you can simply walk out the store and all of a sudden you can see people (demons) staring at you or kind of rushing past you. But in this case, I believe the members were actually the members, some of them might have been demons, but some of them weren't.

Anyways, these kids, well 2 girls, they were involved in satanism somehow and I was just walking out the door and then they seen me and ran to me talking about Jesus, I don't know what they were saying about him. That's the part I never got but I told them "No" and stuff and they got mad but one of them disappeared and the other one ran away.

It was night time again, my mom was like "Oh the members are coming again! Get your weapons!" And the members were smiling and walking as if they were having a good day until they all looked at my door once again, and started freaking out (not in the bad way) and started pounding on my door. I ran to the top of the stairs. The doors were still locked, but one member somehow APPEARED? in my house. It was tae! He still had on his black hood and he was rushing up the stairs. (Somehow my parents or sister didn't see him, only I did) and he looked scared, he said "HELP ME!! THEY'RE ALL EVIL!! I JUST WANT CHRIST!! BUT I'M DAMNED!! PLEASE HELP ME" and then the other members disappeared. The last thing I saw was taes scared face and then I woke up.

So while typing this I'm starting to realize something. I believe the part where they were coming back the SECOND time, they were smiling and acting normal because of army, you know they have to ACT and pretend they love them? I believe that's why, but as soon as they seen people of Christ, they started attacking like freaking demons which represents their true selves. And I think the first time they appeared with Namjoon being the first was because he was in control of the members and told them to attack my family and I. (You know how satan deceived 1/3 of the angels and convinced them to fight against God and his angels that remained on his side) he influenced the other members something like that.

However tae seems like... I don't even know. He seemed so regretful. Well that's my dream! Please reply and tell me what you personally think because I'm just... I don't even know.

I think the same thing about R_M, that he is a servant of Satan. And in T_XT it's Y_eonjun.

And I have a bad feeling about Life and Taeyong dNCT, it's like they're going to be sacrificing soon…

 

[Scars512]

What if they DON'T want to repent ??? Do you ever consider that ?
At this point, I am pretty sure they would never trade drinking champagne on jets with normal 9 to 5 jobs. This is just wishful thinking of you. I know you want them to repent, but there are certain things you see and do when you join that you can never be the same again after. It becomes normal, like...really normal.

You want a new deal ? Fuck around with the investors.

You want a solo song ? Fuck the CEO.

You want to hit the charts ? A few satanic rituals, some blowjobs here and there and youre good to go.

It is what it is and has been like that for many years now. You cant change the industry. Them surviving for this long just shows once again that they don't actually want to turn back. Please stop with the pitying, they dont need it.

Honestly, I think it is just human nature to feel pity and to hope that people will change for the better. I mean, their lives aren't even that great. Everyone assumes that money and fame would be utopia, but it isn't. That's why you see so many celebs turning to alcohol and drugs and sex to numb themselves and escape reality. Most average people have happier lives than celebrities, honestly. So, I do feel sympathy for them as human beings because they made a very bad deal. They traded eternal life for fame and money (but not real love or happiness -- that isn't part of the deal).

I think feeling sympathy for them just means that you haven't reached that level of cynicism where you see someone as beyond all point of redemption. I think they could redeem themselves if they ever publicly came out and told the truth about the industry and apologized for pushing agendas in exchange for fame. Do I think that is likely to happen? No. But, I still hope -- for their sake and the sake of the fans who blindly follow them -- that it will happen. And I will always pity those who will spend eternity separated from God. This brief speck of time we call life is not worth an eternity of suffering -- even if you get to live like a king. But that pity is tempered by anger that they are taking others down that path with them. I don't think you can separate out the pity from the anger, though. It is a mixture of both.

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1139887094812168192

People getting hurt by fire works at the muster and she is not the only one.. There are more..

 

[Hopeful]

Speaking of dreams..
J1min wants to be in your dream tonight

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1139926520041005057