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How rude it may sound, but I hope that Bighit, Bts and his entire office will soon collapse. Everything will be better from this.
Amen sisss !!!
i think bigshit will collapse sooner or later, people already noticed how dirty they are and i believe they have a lot going on under the curtains so i dont doubt they will collapse soon, someone might expose their dirty works, and bts is getting old like bruh, no wonder why bigshit keeps doing those childlike photoshoots, they really tried to push them to the ped0s but i dont think they want them no more because theyre hella old, almost 30, and i cant stand them being relevant, like please just disband already, no one wants to see them anymore, they cant even dance and sing no more, their whole show is a joke but armys kept seeing it as "perfect as always" yikes imagine having a rose colored glasses on everytime bts appeared, cant relate.
 

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I still believe that theory is true for NCT as well. Never understood why SM keeps pushing them the way they do, considering their lack of success. Also their year book is the creepiest thing yet. Why are there so many members and keep adding? Are they male h00kers?
The presentation that was made to introduce the first members of N_CT, shows perfectly what happens. Inspired by the AKB48 Japanese women's group, whose members are each time renewed, to become a mythical group of Japan. The N_CT the Neo Culture Technology that can recall the name of the new city at the forefront of technology, named Neom. They create subgroups but instead of conquering their country, they conquer the world. The name Neo can refer to the movie Matrix, which talks about robots taking care of men who live only in a fake world, and turning humans into piles. In addition to the group M_onsta X which makes a reference in Dramarama. He also has T_XT which makes it a reference in Crown, when they have to take their costume (weapons in Matrix). He also has a reference to the fact, instead of presenting a group he presents robots, AI, their hearts are green and in the clip Someone puts L_EDApple by chance, where again in an EXO vcr, men are control while the AIs are free, see the two articles that I have already written on it, the one about the color of Jonghyun and it with the GD clip, it's about AI: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/because-jonghyun-deserved-better.3858/page-9#post-208787:
 
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The presentation that was made to introduce the first members of N_CT, shows perfectly what happens. Inspired by the AKB48 Japanese women's group, whose members are each time renewed, to become a mythical group of Japan. The N_CT the Neo Culture Technology that can recall the name of the new city at the forefront of technology, named Neom. They create subgroups but instead of conquering their country, they conquer the world. The name Neo can refer to the movie Matrix, which talks about robots taking care of men who live only in a fake world, and turning humans into piles. In addition to the group M_onsta X which makes a reference in Dramarama. He also has T_XT which makes it a reference in Crown, when they have to take their costume (weapons in Matrix). He also has a reference to the fact, instead of presenting a group he presents robots, AI, their hearts are green and in the clip Someone puts L_EDApple by chance, where again in an EXO vcr, men are control while the AIs are free, see the two articles that I have already written on it, the one about the color of Jonghyun and it with the GD clip, it's about AI:https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/because-jonghyun-deserved-better.3858/page-9#post-208787:
Actually, i think the concept of b+s also similar to 48family. They don't changed their members but how they been presented themself to the fans it is. They have their own variety shows, run and their yutub videos it makes fans feels closer to them, its the same feeling with the grow together with fans. How their fans always tried to make b+s being number one in everything, streaming and buying album it feels like they treated a host. And now they launch otome game, 48 made them years ago and its succeed amongst fans.




Japan, korea, and china made it years ago. Ai solved aging and exhausted singers. In fact, quarter of my playlist consists these ai singers.
 

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lol so powerful....now BTS and their CEO can decide who wins a grammy...
That's so weird tbh. How powerful are they that something like this can happen?! Coming from someone who lives in the U.S BT$ may seem popular because of the media but bts and other kpop groups aren't as popular as they seem. In real life no one cares/talks about kpop the way the media makes it out to be. People just think of it as a trend that'll die down soon. Rap, hip hop, and pop culture are still dominant in terms of popularity and people just use kpop groups for clout because they have dedicated and obsessed fans. In school if you ask about kpop no one really cares or knows what that is but there are a few. For any kpop act to be popular(as in everyone is talking about them and singing their song), their song would actually have to chart and be played everywhere. Online its easy to finds the fans and they seem like they're everywhere but go outside and you'll realize it's not as big as you thought. Of course they still have a lot of fans but so does every fandom. Also the connection with BTS and the Grammys seems a little sketchy. Army's and bts were trying sooooooo hard to get bye a grammy, they were desperate too but it didn't really work out the way they thought it would. Now all of a sudden they have a part in choosing who'll win?! I really wonder who's backing this group because whoever it is must be powerful.
 

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That's so weird tbh. How powerful are they that something like this can happen?! Coming from someone who lives in the U.S BT$ may seem popular because of the media but bts and other kpop groups aren't as popular as they seem. In real life no one cares/talks about kpop the way the media makes it out to be. People just think of it as a trend that'll die down soon. Rap, hip hop, and pop culture are still dominant in terms of popularity and people just use kpop groups for clout because they have dedicated and obsessed fans. In school if you ask about kpop no one really cares or knows what that is but there are a few. For any kpop act to be popular(as in everyone is talking about them and singing their song), their song would actually have to chart and be played everywhere. Online its easy to finds the fans and they seem like they're everywhere but go outside and you'll realize it's not as big as you thought. Of course they still have a lot of fans but so does every fandom. Also the connection with BTS and the Grammys seems a little sketchy. Army's and bts were trying sooooooo hard to get bye a grammy, they were desperate too but it didn't really work out the way they thought it would. Now all of a sudden they have a part in choosing who'll win?! I really wonder who's backing this group because whoever it is must be powerful.
yes, BTS sell a lot of albums but like you said their music is not known to the public. They are not relevant in the music scene, but now the Grammys are making them members and they can decide who wins o_O
They have a position of power....out of nowhere.....and how does this work if they get nominated? I imagine them and their CEO cant vote in that case

the grammys never had respect or consideration for other boybands so I wonder what makes BTS different...we can only imagine the things they do to get these privileges
 

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Found this explanation on allkp0p unpopular opinion thread.It seemed plausible.

"BTS being invited to be members of the academy left me confused until I remembered that BTS being invited is mainly because they’re Asian and foreign. The Grammys want to appear as if they care about diversity and are welcoming to a non English speaking Asian foreign group. Basically trying to convince people they’re not racist. BTS was also invited to present at the Grammys for that same reason and if they are ever nominated would be mainly for that reason as well."

You can see that this invitation left a lot of people confused about bt5's real worth.But,they are seeing it for what it is.'They' can't fool people with this media play any longer.
Time is ticking for toxic trio.
Tick Tock Tick Tock.;)
They were invited because they are the hype "it" group which is pushed at the moment by "people". This is really the reason why they are everywhere and not because of their hard work. I'm not saying they didn't work hard, just that they are being pushed by a lot of "people". Also they want young people to acknowledge and have an interest in the grammys. People are dummer than you might think lol. This is the harsh reality.

Blinded fans talking about how they changed their life and rescued them from depression. This idea is almost forced upon them. Like if you say a lie a couple of times you start begining that its actually real. Never forget to use your brain and logic. People nowdays have stoped using their brains, they are just eating up whatever media etc are telling them and its kindda scary.

Nobody is talking about who's going to replace them. But the new "it" group should have been chosen by now.
 

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Yes.Goebbels' philosophy,I know.:)
As for the next 'it' group,there have been a lot of talk about the new 'nct' gr0up,that recently toured us.
And then,there was 'ate3z' which already has a deal with sony,their company has ties with bigshit in a very long and indirect way,they have a similar growth arc to bt5 and @Dove28 said that their chart looks a lot like that of bt5 especially about attracting public attention.
Not to forget 'monst@x' which is literally mimicking everything bt5,including their new logo changes.
I don't think t*t has it in them to make it big,but who knows what was planned.
I remember seeing monst@x sitting next to jamal at some award show they looked like models. But they are kindda old? And I bet the new it group will know how to speak english.

According to billboards the best new kpop acts are

(G)I-dl3 and Str@y kid3.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/k-town/8491744/best-new-k-pop-acts-2018

And this is str@y kid3 latest trailer


 
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I think this is a nice way for them to say we are not giving you a grammy, but you may join the voting committee instead. I may be wrong but if you are in the voting committee you cannot vote for yourself, hence no nominations.
yes, now I read is a membership for one year so it looks like the Grammys gave them this because they are not thinking about giving them a nomination

just an excuse to invite them to the ceremony and make them perform (give the fans a reason to watch)
we have to wait and see if they accept the membership.....that would mean no nomination and they really want that award so...
 

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Not going into the coupling part,but,it looks like tea is on bad terms with most of the group.There was an anonymous twitter account that spoke of rift among members and then,there was that elevator video where he seems to be telling off j1n.
And since the younger three are usually banded together,it is most likely that jk and jm have formed a group of their own separating tea and trying to make him feel bad or feeling left out.You know the way friends sometimes get into arguments and gang up on one another to have the upper hand on others.
Also,this situation is similar to workplace bullying where colleagues isolate one of their own to show them their place.And honestly,these guys are really colleagues.
So,tea decided to separate himself from the rest of the group(drama) and also,seems to be grateful about the alone time.
Right now,it looks like he is there to only complete his contractual obligations.

his fans can see that too, they say he is always alone and dont do as much fanservice anymore


not sure about the fanservice, because I see clips here he still does it during concerts. But it looks very forced anyways
 
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his fans can see that too, they say he is always alone and dont do as much fanservice anymore


not sure about the fanservice, because I see clips here he still does it during concerts. But it looks very forced anyways
I honestly think people can over exaggerate sometimes. I believe they have assigned seats, because Jimin said that he is has to wait for JK after rehearsals because those two always ride the same car. Their drivers are not from the company either, if you look closely they look like rented cars with local drivers, so it makes sense for the compnay who doesnt even allow medics backstage to take precautions. Taehyung is just one of the most private members and doesnt get spotted anywhere, perhaps he is better at hiding. Rm said he went shopping with Jhope and this picture was taken in NY showing that he does in fact hang out with the other members during his free time. He went out to a Karaoke bar/restaurant with Jin and Rm. There were more clear pics I can’t find them. He is also releasing a song with Hobi, so he is not exactly left out.
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I honestly think people can over exaggerate sometimes. I believe they have assigned seats, because Jimin said that he is has to wait for JK after rehearsals because those two always ride the same car. Their drivers are not from the company either, if you look closely they look like rented cars with local drivers, so it makes sense for the compnay who doesnt even allow medics backstage to take precautions. Taehyung is just one of the most private members and doesnt get spotted anywhere, perhaps he is better at hiding. Rm said he went shopping with Jhope and this picture was taken in NY showing that he does in fact hang out with the other members during his free time. He went out to a Karaoke bar/restaurant with Jin and Rm. There were more clear pics I can’t find them. He is also releasing to get a song with Hobi, so he is not exactly left out.
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maybe true...still dont buy the maknae line "best friends forever" thing
Seems obvious JK and Jimin are glued together (not only in car rides)....thats why I believe they have the most real relationship in this group...of course is my personal opinion after I see fannacounts of them together so often
 

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I honestly think people can over exaggerate sometimes. I believe they have assigned seats, because Jimin said that he is has to wait for JK after rehearsals because those two always ride the same car. Their drivers are not from the company either, if you look closely they look like rented cars with local drivers, so it makes sense for the compnay who doesnt even allow medics backstage to take precautions. Taehyung is just one of the most private members and doesnt get spotted anywhere, perhaps he is better at hiding. Rm said he went shopping with Jhope and this picture was taken in NY showing that he does in fact hang out with the other members during his free time. He went out to a Karaoke bar/restaurant with Jin and Rm. There were more clear pics I can’t find them. He is also releasing to get a song with Hobi, so he is not exactly left out.
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In that vlive there were weird moments. NJ and jamal were looking at each other in weird ways. Maybe it's just my imagination but nj even said he was concerned that jamal was always wearing those boots during conditioning? Before the concerts I don't know. And also after concerts he doesnt even take his lenses out or even backpack he just lays down and falls asleep. NJ concerned said I can't come and wash you..... This was very weird to me. Why is he concerned about that. Who cares?
And jamal sits like a ajumma when talking to nj for some reason.lol

maybe true...still dont buy the maknae line "best friends forever" thing
Seems obvious JK and Jimin are glued together (not only in car rides)....thats why I believe they have the most real relationship in this group...of course is my personal opinion after I see fannacounts of them together so often
jk and jamal have a different kind of relationship since the begining. They are from the same city etc. They were always seen together from day one, they filmed videos together etc.
 
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