Revelation

[TokiEl]

Who is this seven headed beast ?

It looks like a leopard with the mouth of a lion and the feet of a bear.

Quite frankly one must be biblical illiterate to not understand that the leopard and the lion and the bear are three world powers.

And one must have an agenda to obfuscate truths if one claims that MedoPersia which is pictured as a ram is the bear and that Greece which is pictured as a goat is the leopard.


The lion and the bear and the leopard all lost their dominions but continued to live on... well that is a perfect fit for the three colonial world powers which reigned over most of the earth... the British empire and the Russian empire and the German empire.

These three empires were ruled by cousin kings... so one can wonder what the wars were really about.

Anyhow these three world powers make up the seven headed beast... so they are in it together for total world domination. The seven heads of this triune beast represent the seven successive world powers from Babylon to MedoPersia to Greece to Rome to the Holy Roman empire to the German empire to the Third Reich.

The angel explained in John's vision of the future that five of the heads were fallen and that one is and that the seventh will just last a short time...

Revelation 17 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.


The beast that was and is not... is the revived Third reich !

 

[phipps]

A Mouth to Utter Proud Words

Summary: Revelation 13 tells us that the Beast will blaspheme God and slander His name. What blasphemy will the Beast speak? How will he slander God's name?

"The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven" (Revelation 13:5-6).

Daniel 7:25 tells us “He shall speak pompous words against the Most High…”

These verses show us that the beast will be blasphemous. Rome has always been an ecclesiastical and secular power, combining church and state. When she wielded power during the Middle Ages, she claimed this:

"The Church may by Divine Right confiscate the property of heretics, imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames."

In one of his encyclicals, Pope John Paul asked for secular legislation to support the religious observance of Sunday:

"When, through the centuries, she has made laws concerning Sunday rest, (109) the Church has had in mind above all the work of servants and workers...In this matter, my predecessor Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Rerum Novarum spoke of Sunday rest as a worker’s right which the State must guarantee…Therefore, also in the particular circumstances of our own time, Christians will naturally strive to ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy."

In a further apostolic letter, the Pope used the term “heretic” for the first time since the healing of the wound, and warned disobedient members of the flock that they will be punished if they do not accept papal authority in matters of doctrine:

"Whoever denies a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or who calls into doubt, or who totally repudiates the Christian faith, and does not retract after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished as a heretic or an apostate with a major excommunication; a cleric moreover can be punished with other penalties, not excluding deposition."

It is interesting that while the Roman Catholic Church considers all other churches heretics and disobedient daughters that must accept papal authority in matters of doctrine, the Catholic Church is also seeking unity with other denominations through the setting aside of differences. But under Catholic thought, the only differences to set aside are those of other denominations, for all must concede to papal authority. This can be seen in the efforts of the Anglican Church to reunite with the Papacy on common ground, only to finally admit that there was no unity with the Papacy on any other terms but its own.

Through the efforts of Rome through the past years, we see that she is stealthily preparing to once again enforce her decrees, just as the Bible predicts. In the secret recesses of her grand buildings and in the legislative halls of the world's political powers the stage has been set for the final confrontation between those aligned with the prince of darkness and those who stand under the bloodstained banner of Prince Emmanuel.

 

[phipps]

666: The Number of a Man

Summary: Revelation 13:18 is a famous verse in Scripture because it presents the number of the Beast—666—the three digits that have become infamous in religious and secular contexts alike. What does 666 really add up to in terms of prophecy?

"Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666" (Revelation 13:18).

The final attribute of the sea beast is that it has a number, and this number is the number of a man.

We must remember that this attribute is not the most important, but is rather just a small piece of the description Scripture gives of this beast.

Modern interpretations of this prophecy apply the 666 to a computer in Brussels. This implies that 666 represents registration of every citizen of Earth who is to be subjected to the new economic policies of the new world order.

However, this computer did notpersecute the saints for 1260 years. It did not say it was God. And, it does not claim to forgive sins. These are all attributes of the Antichrist.

Before we can call any entity the Antichrist, we must be sure that it fulfills everydescriptor that the Bible gives. 


The text clearly states that the number is a man’s, but also the Beast’s. The number 666 applies to the Papacy (a kingdom represented by a beast in Bible typology) as shown in the chart of papal titles below, and is the number of a man (the supreme ruler of that kingdom), bringing it in line with the “man of sin” recorded in the Scriptures.

If the official secular and religious titles of the Roman Church are examined, then the number 666 is prominent. Latin letters have a numerical value, as we can see in the following chart:i

The Vicarius Filii Dei Controversy

One of the official titles of the Pope, Vicarius Filii Dei or "Vicar of the Son of God," is at times disputed by Catholic theologians, but can be verified in papal canons and other Catholic publications.

Catholic F. Lucii Ferraris, in his Latin encyclopedia called Prompta Bibliotheca canonica juridica moralis theologica said this:

"Ut sicut Beatus Petrus in terris vicarius Filii Dei fuit constitutus, ita et Potifices eius successores in terris principatus potestatem amplius, quam terrence imperialis nostræ serenitatis mansuetudo habere videtur" (emphasis added).ii

The English translation is as follows:

"As the blessed Peter was constituted Vicar of the Son of God on earth, so it is seen that the Pontiffs, his successors, hold for us and our empire the power of a supremacy on the earth greater than the clemency of our earthly imperial serenity."iii

Our Sunday Visitor, a Jesuit publication, published two admissions that Vicarius Filii Dei is in fact a title for the pope—on November 15, 1914, and April 18, 1915. The November 15, 1914, issue, as shown in the picture, tells us this:

"The title of the Pope of Rome is Vicarius Filii Dei. This is inscribed on his mitre; and if you take the letters of his title (printed large) and add them together they come to 666...add these together and the total will be 666."

Note what our Protestant forefathers had to say about Vicarius Filii Dei:

Dr. Henry Grattan Guinness, in Babylon and the Beast, said this:

"An English officer of high rank, who in 1799 by a special favour, was given the special opportunity, while in Rome, to get a close look at the Pope's jewels and precious things, discovered thereby, that the papal tiara bore this inscription: 'Vicarivs Filii Dei.'

"When you take out the Latin letters, which have a numerical value, and which still are used to represent numbers, and which are: V, I, C, L, and D, these letters form the number given below. In these Latin words there are two V's, which letter denotes 5, six I's denoting 1, one C which denotes 100, one L, which denotes 50, and one D, which denotes 500, thus, V,V=10; I,I,I,I,I,I=6; C=100; L=50; and D=500, the sum 666."iv

Richard Cunningham Shimeall (1803 - 1874), wrote this in his book Our Bible Chronology:

"It is to be observed as a singular circumstance, that the title vicarius filii dei (Vicar of the Son of God), which the Popes of Rome have assumed to themselves, and caused to be inscribed over the door of the Vatican, exactly makes the number 666, when deciphered with the numeral signification of its constituent letters..."v

Many in the Protestant Church today would wish to apply the number 666 to the whole of humanity rather than the Papacy specifically. But if both Catholics and Protestants agree on the title, and even the Jesuits—the society sworn to protect the Pope at any cost—confirmed the title and number twice in their own publication, can we doubt its validity?

amazingdiscoveries.org

 

[TokiEl]

A Mouth to Utter Proud Words

Summary: Revelation 13 tells us that the Beast will blaspheme God and slander His name. What blasphemy will the Beast speak? How will he slander God's name?

"The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven" (Revelation 13:5-6).

Daniel 7:25 tells us “He shall speak pompous words against the Most High…”


These verses show us that the beast will be blasphemous. Rome has always been an ecclesiastical and secular power, combining church and state. When she wielded power during the Middle Ages, she claimed this:

"The Church may by Divine Right confiscate the property of heretics, imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames."

Nobody exonerates the papacy... it is full of sins and errors... and it will not repent.

But the papacy is not the last world power which nobody can make war with... which will reign over the whole earth.

The papacy is part of the lamb with two horns who spoke like a dragon. It will play second fiddle to the beast that was and is not yet is... the Third reich.

In one of his encyclicals, Pope John Paul asked for secular legislation to support the religious observance of Sunday:

"When, through the centuries, she has made laws concerning Sunday rest, (109) the Church has had in mind above all the work of servants and workers...In this matter, my predecessor Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Rerum Novarum spoke of Sunday rest as a worker’s right which the State must guarantee…Therefore, also in the particular circumstances of our own time, Christians will naturally strive to ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy."

Sunday is the Lord's day... and was kept as such even by John.

You stubbornly continue to sprout errors and obfuscate truths... i'm sure there is a penalty for that.

I am confident that you will be duly dealt with.

 

[TokiEl]

666: The Number of a Man

Summary: Revelation 13:18 is a famous verse in Scripture because it presents the number of the Beast—666—the three digits that have become infamous in religious and secular contexts alike. What does 666 really add up to in terms of prophecy?

"Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666" (Revelation 13:18).

Wisdom and understanding are required to solve this problem which immediately disqualifies yourself.


Revelation 13 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark- the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.


Strong's G5480 - charagma. *.a stamp, an imprinted mark. **.of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist. ***.the mark branded upon horses. ****.thing carved, sculpture, graven work. *****.of idolatrous images.

Strong's G5585 - psēphizō. *.to count with pebbles, to compute, calculate, reckon. **.to give one's vote by casting a pebble into the urn. ***.to decide by voting

Strong's G706 - arithmos. *.a fixed and definite number. **.an indefinite number, a multitude.

Strong's G5516 - chi-xi-stigma. *.six hundred and sixty six, the meaning of which is the basis of much vain speculation.



Nobody will be able to buy or sell except one who has the mark- the name of the beast or the number of his name.

So is the mark the same as or different from the name of the beast or the number of his name.

I read it as the mark is distinct from... the name of the beast or the number of his name which is the same. But that means one can still buy or sell as long as one is numbered with the beast. Only those not reckoned or counted among the beast... need the mark to buy or sell.

Does this make sense ? Of course it does !

This is the name or number/multitude of the beast.

I can see John chose those three Greek letters that most closely resembled what he was shown about the number of the beast.
I can see the swastika and the name of Allah and the sickle.

Nazism Islam Communism... behold the multitude of the beast.


You see i have eyes to see with.

 

[Thunderian]

I'm not sure if you saw my question, @phipps. Where does the woman of Revelation 12 fit in? Who is she?

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.​

 

[TokiEl]

I'm not sure if you saw my question, @phipps. Where does the woman of Revelation 12 fit in? Who is she?

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.​

Nothing in the Bible is of any private interpretations... so this woman which is a great sign in heaven is also said to be given two wings of a great eagle that she might fly into the wilderness which is the place prepared to her by God so she will be kept safe from the water spewed out of the mouth of the serpent like a flood to carry the her away...


This of course is a poetic picture of the Jewish people flying in airplanes back to their ancestral land which truly was a waste wilderness before they took over. And there they are safe from several invasion attempts... and at the start of the great tribulation the Devil will try to invade them again and fail again... so he will take it out on the saints instead. (That could include you idk... are you a saint ? Or did you say you're a sinner ? Anyway you must soon make up your mind !).

 

[TokiEl]

Why, it's practically an accomplished fact, clearly. I'm sorry, if apologies are necessary, to be the skeptic in Sunday School, and be it known that I was raised to not only read but also memorize entire chapters of (yes, KJV) scripture, though I certainly don't claim to understand most of what I memorized, which is one reason why I sometimes ask you guys to explain. I study this stuff, even if only superficially, at times, because it affects me and others I dearly love. With that said, I do sometimes wonder if Judeo-Christian prophecy, especially when it is being enacted -or maybe, more accurately, inverted- by the likes of Mike Pompeo, John Bolton and the new "Cyrus," President Trump, with his BFF buddy, fellow "casino magnate" Sheldon Adelson, isn't really what Freud called a collective "death wish," and if the clouds on which Jesus is predicted to appear aren't a series of these, radioactive mushroom clouds ...

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The first new commandment is to maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.

One does not need to be a rocket scientist to understand that a lot of killing has to be done... and with a huge arsenal of big city killers causing mushroom clouds that target is quickly within reach.

I've heard that clouds can't cross the equator so if they decide to nuke the northern hemisphere they can vacation down under for a few weeks and not worry about radioactive contamination... or if they want to stay up north there are allegedly a lot of dumbs to choose from.

What's important for them is that human numbers go way down... i don't know why but it can be what the aliens who gave them the tech to make nukes demand. I think that's it. They are just taking orders from the angelic fuk ups.

 

[Serveto]

The first new commandment is to maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.

I assume that you are here referring to the so called Georgia Guidestones. I haven't looked into them in much detail, except to remember that they are mysterious. Do you have any indication of who placed them, or who issued this "first new commandment" as you put it?

What's important for them is that human numbers go way down... i don't know why but it can be what the aliens who gave them the tech to make nukes demand. I think that's it. They are just taking orders from the angelic fuk ups.

Who are the "them" and "they" here in question? More specifically, are you here implying that J. Robert Oppenheimer, for instance, when he, well, sort of channeled Shiva [death], the "destroyer of worlds," and supervised the detonation of the word's first atomic bomb, was in rapport with aliens and/or fucked up angels?

 

[TokiEl]

I assume that you are here referring to the so called Georgia Guidestones. I haven't looked into them in much detail, except to remember that they are mysterious. Do you have any indication of who placed them, or who issued this "first new commandment" as you put it?

Yes i believe blue bloods that is aristocrats conjured up ten new commandments and got a lot of killings to do if they are to reach their target of 500 million human beings.

Who are the "them" and "they" here in question?

They are the aristocrazy.

More specifically, are you here implying that J. Robert Oppenheimer, for instance, when he, well, channeled Shiva, the "destroyer of worlds," and supervised the detonation of the word's first atomic bomb, was in rapport with aliens and/or fucked up angels?

I don't know how the bomb came about... i just know we got some fuked up angels masquerading as aliens with good technological know how and a distaste for human beings.

 

[phipps]

Inherited Characteristics of the First Beast of Revelation 13

Summary: The first beast of Revelation 13 incorporates components of all four beasts of Daniel 7.

The imagery of John’s vision in Revelation 13 builds on Daniel 7’s description of the little horn Antichrist power by showing us that Rome incorporates components of the lion, the bear, the leopard, and the terrible ten-horned beast:

"And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority" (Revelation 13:2).

These are the four beasts from Daniel’s vision, and are symbols of the kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.

The Bible’s imagery is not random. The attributes of each of the four beasts are indeed contained in this one beast. The Church of Rome has incorporated many of history’s systems of worship and styles of governance into its own systems. The absolute power of the ruling monarch, the infallibility of his decrees, the total subservience of the Papacy’s officers, the hierarchy of its elite, and the many secret organizations that make Rome’s power absolute are all inherited from past empires.

Here is a portion of the oath taken by all cardinals of the Catholic Church:

"I [name and surname], Cardinal of the Holy Roman Church, promise and swear to be faithful henceforth and forever, while I live, to Christ and his Gospel, being constantly obedient to the Holy Roman Apostolic Church, to Blessed Peter in the person of the Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI, and of his canonically elected Successors..."i

The very people now venerated in the Roman Church are renamed versions of Greek gods. As historian Alexander Hislop says, "Popery was baptised Paganism...the Paganism which Rome has baptised is, in all its essential elements, the very Paganism which prevailed in the ancient literal Babylon" (emphasis in original).ii

Even the titles used by present-day Popes are the same as those used in early pagan religions and by the monarchs who were seen as representatives of the gods and even as gods themselves.

amazingdiscoveries.org

 

[TokiEl]

The imagery of John’s vision in Revelation 13 builds on Daniel 7’s description of the little horn Antichrist power by showing us that Rome incorporates components of the lion, the bear, the leopard, and the terrible ten-horned beast:

"And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority" (Revelation 13:2).

These are the four beasts from Daniel’s vision, and are symbols of the kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.

Stubbornly refusing to stop sprouting errors...

MedoPersia is pictured as a ram and Greece is pictured as a goat... therefore as the error goes MedoPersia must be the bear and Greece must be the leopard. Since MedoPersia is the ram it must be the bear and since Greece is the goat it must be the leopard ?

It's just unbelievable what mess people have made out of God's prophecies. What sort of people can mistake a ram for a bear and a goat for a leopard ? God is trying to show us something... but some sort of people have been and are doing their best to obfuscate the truths of what God is trying to tell us.

 

[Thunderian]

 

[TokiEl]

So you found a picture on the internet where someone put Persia as the bear and Greece as the leopard... but Persia is specifically said to be the ram and Greece is specifically said to be the goat.

Therefore Persia is not the bear but the ram and Greece is not the leopard but the goat.


MedoPersia succeeded Babylon and Greece succeeded MedoPersia and Rome succeeded Greece and the Holy Roman empire succeeded Rome and the German empire succeeded the Holy Roman empire and the Third reich succeeded the German empire.

That are the seven heads or seven successive world powers from Babylon to the Third reich.

The reason it is called the Third reich is because it was the third time revived Rome. (The Holy Roman empire was the first and the German empire was the second).


The lion and the bear and the leopard lost their dominions but lived on for a season and a time... and together they make up the terrible fourth beast who look like a leopard with the mouth of a lion and the feet of a bear.

This beast is said to cause a lot of destruction and not so long ago the lion and the bear and the leopard slugged it out in two world wars. There might be a third as well...

 

[Thunderian]

So you found a picture on the internet where someone put Persia as the bear and Greece as the leopard... but Persia is specifically said to be the ram and Greece is specifically said to be the goat.

Therefore Persia is not the bear but the ram and Greece is not the leopard but the goat.

Wrong chapter, bud. You're thinking of Daniel 8, not 7.

 

[TokiEl]

Wrong chapter, bud. You're thinking of Daniel 8, not 7.

In Daniel 8 it is said that MedoPersia is the ram and Greece the goat.

Does Daniel 7 say MedoPersia is the bear and Greece the leopard ?

 

[Thunderian]

 

[TokiEl]

So in the Scriptures it is said that MedoPersia is the ram and Greece is the goat... and that's why you think MedoPersia is the bear and Greece is the leopard ?

But that makes perfect sense coming from you.

 

[Thunderian]

Persia is the bear of chapter 7, and the ram of chapter 8. Greece is the leopard of chapter 7, and the goat of chapter 8.

 

[TokiEl]

Persia is the bear of chapter 7, and the ram of chapter 8. Greece is the leopard of chapter 7, and the goat of chapter 8.

MedoPersia is said to be the ram and Greece the goat in chapter 8... and therefore although it is not said so MedoPersia must be the bear and Greece the leopard in chapter 7 ?

You don't see that you are just jumping to an absurd conclusion...

God has called MedoPersia the ram and Greece the goat... so you call MedoPersia the bear and Greece the leopard.

How are you not opposing God ?