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[Lisa]

This post demonstrates quite clearly that you appear to lack any original thoughts of your own. Your standard response is to just post more Bible scripture in the hope that your point of view is then seen as righteous. If this type of bigotry is what your God wanted to develope then all I can say is we are all well and truly f**ked!

Well people are well and truly f**ked without Him. That is the problem in life, there is sin and sin causes the problems and most people are trying to find solutions to sin without God and it doesn’t work so good. That was never the solution God had in mind to help people. His solution is Himself.

As a Christian, I only have the Bible verses and God to share. I have a Christian worldview not a secular one. I’m not going to be telling you to take medications or smoke pot for your problems, I’m going to point you to God. And why? Because He’s helped me.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

The thing of it is, Claire, you would say these people are too far gone to be saved, but does the Bible actually preach that people are too far gone to be saved? Then would anyone be saved? Who could be saved?

Romans 1 talks about sinners, Paul is setting up the road of sin to salvation and Romans 1 starts off with the horribleness of sin. Carrying on we see that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If you say that these sins are too far gone then don’t you limit God in His salvation? Only the good sinners can be saved?

Yes their minds are dark and futile, but who’s minds aren’t?You like to condemn people and take away hope of salvation then. I ran across a Christian man’s blog and he and a commentator liked to condemn homosexual’s for their sins but didn’t bother to give them Jesus. I commented that this was wrong that you can’t condemn without giving people hope in Jesus but was shut down by them as they said those people did not deserve it. No one deserves salvation, that’s called grace, God gives His grace freely to all sinners-who are you to say this sinner can’t have grace-they’ve gone too far?
‭‭2 Peter 3:9‬ ‭
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

‭‭2 Corinthians 5:18-20‬
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
‭Paul begs people to be reconciled to God, Paul tells us on the Romans road, the problem- sin and he tells us the solution-Jesus. He didn’t leave people condemned but gave them hope in a new life in Jesus. I don’t think wishing sinners death and condemnation the way Christians should be after all..
John 3:17‬ ‭
For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
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He ate with sinners, He spoke to sinners, He saves sinners.
‭‭Romans 2:4‬ ‭
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?

Not all sin is equal, Lisa.
That is why God prescribed different punishments based on the severity of the sin.

Yes we are ALL sinners, and NONE of us deserve to be saved. Agreed.

And I am not the one that condemns people. Those who do not believe on Christ are condemned ALREADY. That is what God said, not me:

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”.....John 3:18 (KJB)

When I go soul winning I give the Gospel to EVERYONE. I do not ask them what sins they have committed in order to deny them the Gospel if I think they don’t “deserve” it.

I just share the Gospel with them.

I have gone soul winning for about 8 hrs per week for 10 years. I have given the Gospel to ALL types of people of all different faiths(or lack of), ages, color, backgrounds, etc.

When I go out soul winning, I do so with love, an open Bible & a tear in the eye. I do not care about the person’s background, I only want them to believe so their soul will be saved.

What I’ve realized is:

Not ONCE have I seen a homo get saved. I am not claiming it’s impossible, nor will I ever deny them the hearing of the Gospel, (the people on the website you speak of are wrong, and should give the Gospel to everyone & anyone) but I have never met one (at least not personally/from my experience) that believed the Gospel no matter how much I witnessed to them, & no matter how much Scripture I showed them from the Bible.

What I HAVE experienced with homos is that 95% are actually very HOSTILE to even hearing the Gospel & become abusive & angry & have threatened me.

But I will always still try.

 

[Awoken2]

What I HAVE experienced with homos is that 95% are actually very HOSTILE to even hearing the Gospel & become abusive & angry & have threatened me.

Only 95%? With your homophobic attititude it really should be 100% surely?

 

[Lisa]

Not all sin is equal, Lisa.
That is why God prescribed different punishments based on the severity of the sin.

Yes we are ALL sinners, and NONE of us deserve to be saved. Agreed.

And I am not the one that condemns people. Those who do not believe on Christ are condemned ALREADY. That is what God said, not me:

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”.....John 3:18 (KJB)

When I go soul winning I give the Gospel to EVERYONE. I do not ask them what sins they have committed in order to deny them the Gospel if I think they don’t “deserve” it.

I just share the Gospel with them.

I have gone soul winning for about 8 hrs per week for 10 years. I have given the Gospel to ALL types of people of all different faiths(or lack of), ages, color, backgrounds, etc.

When I go out soul winning, I do so with love, an open Bible & a tear in the eye. I do not care about the person’s background, I only want them to believe so their soul will be saved.

What I’ve realized is:

Not ONCE have I seen a homo get saved. I am not claiming it’s impossible, nor will I ever deny them the hearing of the Gospel, (the people on the website you speak of are wrong, and should give the Gospel to everyone & anyone) but I have never met one (at least not personally/from my experience) that believed the Gospel no matter how much I witnessed to them, & no matter how much Scripture I showed them from the Bible.

What I HAVE experienced with homos is that 95% are actually very HOSTILE to even hearing the Gospel & become abusive & angry & have threatened me.

But I will always still try.

All sin is bad to God. I’m not sure what you’re talking about when you say God has different punishments for sin?

If you go soul winning and you aren’t searching out people’s sins you just talk to everyone, then why do you come here and condemn certain people for theirs? I don’t understand that?

Well, Claire maybe you planted the seed in the homosexuals you preached to? When you say these people never can you aren’t preaching the gospel that Christ died for everyone.

 

[Awoken2]

Rather than waste taxes, time & resources trying to fix something that is permanently broken, the problem can be permanently solved with a 50 cent bullet.

It is a mercy killing at that point—putting the offender out of their own misery, preventing the inevitable destruction of children’s lives, and ridding the world of rubbish.

So when God said thou shall not kill he also put some small print in saying gays and pedo's were fair game? Is that what you're saying?

Okaaaay then......(walks off scratching head)

 

[Faker He-Man]

I have no role in the LGBTQ whatsoever.

lol ok if you say so. I'm not sure you even comprehended what I posted.

I do not associate with homos & never will.

Ok, but that's not what I said. This comment has nothing to do with my post whatsoever. Try reading again maybe?

 

[The Zone]

Why are some of yall drawn to argue with Christians like bugs to a zapper at night?

 

[justjess]

Why are some of yall drawn to argue with Christians like bugs to a zapper at night

Why is the opposite true as well?

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I come here to discuss things I can not discuss with people in my real life. Politics and religion are not polite conversation so I avoid them like the plague with my friends family and co workers. This is supposed to be a safe place to debate those things...

 

[Lisa]

Why are some of yall drawn to argue with Christians like bugs to a zapper at night?

I don’t know if you will take this compliment from me Zone, but that was hilarious!

 

[The Zone]

So, you haven't noticed that it is the same four or five posters (not Muslims) who have major issues with Christians here? I guess I am just seeing things, but seriously same ones gather in all discussions.

There are posters here who blame God, people believing in him for all their issues, yet they make bad decisions which haunt them that G had nothing to do with. Most of the Christians I see seem to have little more light in their lives than those who rail against any restraints in morality. We have some odd ones here for sure.

Why is it that the same venom is not issued by said group against Muslims which are just as strict and immersed in stringent morals? I'd really like to know. I would be interested in seeing how full peoples lives are with their belief systems here. You know, to be a fly on the wall to see how things are going for them.

 

[Lisa]

So, you haven't noticed that it is the same four or five posters (not Muslims) who have major issues with Christians here? I guess I am just seeing things, but seriously same ones gather in all discussions.

I know the people you mean, one said she’d never talk to me again, but I irritate her so much that she can’t help herself.

As to why the same venom isn’t issued to the muslims, I would say it has to do with this...
John 15:18-19‬ ‭
If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.
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[justjess]

So, you haven't noticed that it is the same four or five posters (not Muslims) who have major issues with Christians here? I guess I am just seeing things, but seriously same ones gather in all discussions.

There are posters here who blame God, people believing in him for all their issues, yet they make bad decisions which haunt them that G had nothing to do with. Most of the Christians I see seem to have little more light in their lives than those who rail against any restraints in morality. We have some odd ones here for sure.

Why is it that the same venom is not issued by said group against Muslims which are just as strict and immersed in stringent morals? I'd really like to know. I would be interested in seeing how full peoples lives are here with their belief systems here. You know, to be a fly on the wall to see how things are going for them.

That’s an interesting way to judge people....

The board has dwindled considerably. There seems to be only 4-5 people in each type of belief even left. Idk about going after Muslims, again their don’t seem to be many left and the Christians seem to do enough of that themselves, they don’t need back up.

I don’t comment on Muslim threads because 1) I rarely see them anymore and 2) I don’t know enough about the religion to feel confidant saying anything. I may not be Christian but I was raised Christian and everyone in my life is Christian so I’m surrounded by it. I also tend to play devils advocate/stick up for the underdog, and that’s what they were here for a while. I’ve said stuff to a few who were egregious and openly advocated horrible things, and etagloc gets no pass from any of the same people you are speaking of attacking Christians.

Considering any type of criticism as an attack however seems more a perception issue then a commentary one.

We all have blinders on and see what we want to, yourself included. I only ever even see you comment anymore to criticize how other people are commenting.

 

[justjess]

I know the people you mean, one said she’d never talk to me again, but I irritate her so much that she can’t help herself.

As to why the same venom isn’t issued to the muslims, I would say it has to do with this...
John 15:18-19‬ ‭
If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.
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Lisa I post when I’m bored, and yes I tend to fall into the trap of responding to you when I know better. But you have the annoying ability to represent literally everything I can’t stand about people. So it is what it is.

 

[Lisa]

But you have the annoying ability to represent literally everything I can’t stand about people.

I figured that was it by the way you talk to me and you are bored A LOT! Lol!

 

[justjess]

I figured that was it by the way you talk to me and you are bored A LOT! Lol!

I have boring clients this school year. Could be worse, they could be beating me up. I’ll take boredom any day.

 

[Lisa]

I have boring clients this school year. Could be worse, they could be beating me up. I’ll take boredom any day.

Well if its between an extreme and boredom, I don’t blame you.

 

[The Zone]

We all have blinders on and see what we want to, yourself included. I only ever even see you comment anymore to criticize how other people are commenting.

Then you should read more carefully. BTW, observation is not judging and the nonbeliever sure do seem to judge a lot themselves. The real issue here should be why are people leaving or posting less? The simple answer is we see the same groups and arguments on a daily basis. If people would step outside of their comfort zone and make it a point to converse with others beyond a click, this place would be better. But instead, we have daily battles between groups or assumed groups which have gotten us where?

 

[Corvus Metus]

I have no role in the LGBTQP whatsoever.

I do not associate with homos & never will.

So much for "love thy neighbor". As a Christian myself, I really wish you'd understand that it's talk like that that pushes people away.

Then you should read more carefully. The real issue here should be why are people leaving or posting less? The simple answer is we see the same groups and arguments on a daily basis. If people would step outside of their comfort zone and make it a point to converse with others beyond a click, this place would be better. But instead, we have daily battles between groups or assumed groups which have gotten us where?

To be honest, part of the reason I don't come around much is I feel the boards been overrun by Christians of the American Evangelical strand and people spewing antisemitic propaganda. In the case of the formr, there isn't much reason to engage with them since they genuinely don't want to have discussions; they are entirely convinced they are right and anyone with any different opinion is wrong. and in the case of the later, it's hard to deal with since while I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and think they are just missing the big picture... Well, modern politics makes that really hard.

 

[The Zone]

So much for "love thy neighbor". As a Christian myself, I really wish you'd understand that it's talk like that that pushes people away.



To be honest, part of the reason I don't come around much is I feel the boards been overrun by Christians of the American Evangelical strand and people spewing antisemitic propaganda. In the case of the formr, there isn't much reason to engage with them since they genuinely don't want to have discussions; they are entirely convinced they are right and anyone with any different opinion is wrong. and in the case of the later, it's hard to deal with since while I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and think they are just missing the big picture... Well, modern politics makes that really hard.

Dude, the Christians here argue with each other and I see the opposite of you, some on the fringe come here with statistically unusual Christian beliefs and they seem to stir the pot while demanding acceptance (some are posers). The bottom line is people can believe what they want but it is those with the oddest beliefs which are the loudest in the forum or ones who protest the most. So while you may claim to be a Christian, you sound no more like one taking shots at your own faith than did the poster you put into a similar small box. It is the first time I have seen you claim to be Christian, so sorry for not knowing. Lastly, no one phase of scripture like Love thy neighbor as yourself can represent an encompassing situation or discussion. Who are these American evans that overrun the place? It is okay to list them. All I see is people constantly splitting.

 

[Faker He-Man]

I would be interested in seeing how full peoples lives are with their belief systems here. You know, to be a fly on the wall to see how things are going for them.

right, because someone so morally inferior to yourself cannot possibly lead a fulfilling life.