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[Claire Rousseau]

Can I just ask?.So if we are all God's creations then why did he create gay people?

In anticipation of you replying that we are all born heterosexual and some people just choose to be gay are you suggesting homosexuality can be cured?

God did not create anyone homo, and we are all heterosexual by design.
God CANNOT tempt us to sin, so He has NOTHING to do with people engaging in homosexual behavior.

Homosexual behavior is undeniably satanic in origin, as it is the inversion and defiling of God's created and appropriate purpose of sex, which is an intimate physical relationship to be enjoyed between a husband and his wife.

I cannot say if it can be cured or not with absolute certainty, but I have heard testimonies from only a handful who claim to be free of former homosexual behavior. I have no reason to doubt their sincerity, so I THINK it is possible, depending on the person, how deep into it they are and if the person truly yearns to be free from it, but I personally think that the success rate is very low, and very rare.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

Your views set the precedence thatwe can unanimously kill anyone that is considered broken. You could very well be broken yourself and because I believe so, by your logic, I should kill you. We don't know the possible mental traumas, abuse, or whatever they may have went through but we aren't God to decide so abruptly who should live and sit die.

Your beliefs and feelings don't equate to truth nor represent an imaginary consensus and border dangerous fanaticism. Being broken could be subjective, one day it's pedophiles, then Muslims, neighbours, the autistic, Christians, the physically disabled, blacks, etc.

A shitty vengeful hateful solution is shittier than no solution and you have no solution just a slippery slope lubricated in hatred and violence.

First of all, I NEVER said we should become vigilantes and go out and start killing people we think are broken......you injected YOUR OWN misinterpretation into what I said, spun it into something I NEVER said, then hurled your FALSE accusations at me in a profane and hostile manner whilst berating me for simply sharing my opinion...... and YOU say I am hateful??!

Please, get over yourself.

 

[Damien50]

First of all, I NEVER said we should become vigilantes and go out and start killing people we think are broken......you injected YOUR OWN misinterpretation into what I said, spun it into something I NEVER said, then hurled your FALSE accusations at me in a profane and hostile manner whilst berating me for simply sharing my opinion...... and YOU say I am hateful??!

Please, get over yourself.

I never said that you said anything about being a vigilante. You did.

I didn't really say anything you're accusing me of lol. I wasn't being hostile, I didn't berate you, and I didn't say anything hateful. Acquaint yourself with Webster's Dictionary.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

I never said that you said anything about being a vigilante. You did.

I didn't really say anything you're accusing me of lol. I wasn't being hostile, I didn't berate you, and I didn't say anything hateful. Acquaint yourself with Webster's Dictionary.

You said....
"Your views set the precedence thatwe can unanimously kill anyone that is considered broken. You could very well be broken yourself and because I believe so, by your logic, I should kill you. We don't know the possible mental traumas, abuse, or whatever they may have went through but we aren't God to decide so abruptly who should live and sit die.

Your beliefs and feelings don't equate to truth nor represent an imaginary consensus and border dangerous fanaticism. Being broken could be subjective, one day it's pedophiles, then Muslims, neighbours, the autistic, Christians, the physically disabled, blacks, etc.

A shitty vengeful hateful solution is shittier than no solution and you have no solution just a slippery slope lubricated in hatred and violence."

.....and my response was accurate.

 

[Damien50]

You said....
"Your views set the precedence thatwe can unanimously kill anyone that is considered broken. You could very well be broken yourself and because I believe so, by your logic, I should kill you. We don't know the possible mental traumas, abuse, or whatever they may have went through but we aren't God to decide so abruptly who should live and sit die.

Your beliefs and feelings don't equate to truth nor represent an imaginary consensus and border dangerous fanaticism. Being broken could be subjective, one day it's pedophiles, then Muslims, neighbours, the autistic, Christians, the physically disabled, blacks, etc.

A shitty vengeful hateful solution is shittier than no solution and you have no solution just a slippery slope lubricated in hatred and violence."

.....and my response was accurate.

And you said

I do not even consider them human anymore & their lives have LESS value than even an animal.

Already, we have incorrigibles claiming to be “non-offending pedophiles”, who say they are sexually attracted to children but would “never act on those feelings “.

They try to gain sympathy for their “condition” but they need to be executed.

Pretty sure my response was accurate.

You're the only one in this thread advocating killing anyone with the belief that God or anyone can't help them. It's essentially been you're only solution. You equate them to being sub human deserving of death because that is your solution.

I'm over myself. Your turn.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

And you said



Pretty sure my response was accurate.

You're the only one in this thread advocating killing anyone with the belief that God or anyone can't help them. It's essentially been you're only solution. You equate them to being sub human deserving of death because that is your solution.

I'm over myself. Your turn.

Do you see? Do you see why I spit upon the god of Abraham?

 

[Damien50]

Do you see? Do you see why I spit upon the god of Abraham?

God has nothing to do with this. The worst are not a reflection of the best and vice versa. Another's understanding or perceived relationship with God doesn't have to be our own. I carry my own cross I try not to judge the way others drag theirs.

But hey that's a loaded statement I'd rather address in private because I don't speak for Christianity just my personal relationship.

 

[DevaWolf]

Poor kid, worse if he's autistic. Those parents are abusive.

Tv shows exploiting kids should be banned, no matter what they are about. The kids will face stigma for the rest of their lives for whatever their parents made them do. Pageant shows, mickey mouse club, children with their own reality tv show etc is all just exploitation in my eyes.

These children are under the age of legal consent and should not be put on display for entertainment.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

God has nothing to do with this. The worst are not a reflection of the best and vice versa. Another's understanding or perceived relationship with God doesn't have to be our own. I carry my own cross I try not to judge the way others drag theirs.

But hey that's a loaded statement I'd rather address in private because I don't speak for Christianity just my personal relationship.

I hear it all the time, we hate so and so because our god says to hate so and so

Continue it privately if you wish but all I see from the believers is an excuse to hate.

 

[Damien50]

I hear it all the time, we hate so and so because our god says to hate so and so

Continue it privately if you wish but all I see from the believers is an excuse to hate.

That's only if you want to talk about it privately bro

 

[Colonel Valerio]

That's only if you want to talk about it privately bro

Who makes sense here?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/columbine-whose-fault-is-it-232759/amp/

 

[Awoken2]

God did not create anyone homo, and we are all heterosexual by design.
God CANNOT tempt us to sin, so He has NOTHING to do with people engaging in homosexual behavior.

If your defining heterosexuality by simply assigning sexual orientation to a person's "God given" geneatalia at birth then can you just try and explain what God was up to here please?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

"Blackless, Fausto-Sterling et al., said in two articles in 2000 that 1.7 percent of human births (1 in 60) might be intersex, including variations that may not become apparent until, for example, puberty, or until attempting to conceive"

....are you suggesting that this anomalie in human biology has nothing to do with God either? Are these poor people the work of Satan?

Homosexual behavior is undeniably satanic in origin

So by using the word behaviour you are inferring that gay people can stop behaving gay if they want to and start behaving like a heterosexual?.....How is that achieved then?

I cannot say if it can be cured or not with absolute certainty

The fact that you can even entertain the question says a lot about how religion is one of the biggest creators of bigotry and intolerance. It's quite frightening when youj look at it in the cold light of day.

but I have heard testimonies from only a handful who claim to be free of former homosexual behavior.

Have you considered that perhaps the handful of people you heard from were in fact bi-sexual who didn't really want the derogatory label of being bi-sexual? I could fully understand their reasoning if they were attending your church


.

. I have no reason to doubt their sincerity, so I THINK it is possible, depending on the person, how deep into it they are and if the person truly yearns to be free from it, but I personally think that the success rate is very low, and very rare.

Let me just run this hypothetical situation by you. In a few years time, around the age of their 18th birthday your own son sits you down and tells you that they are homosexual. Despite your strict religious upbringing, your unconditional love, all the lessons you passed on, all the scriptures, all the nurturing,your very own son was afflicted with this homosexuality disease.

So you take him to a psychologist to get him cured, he says homosexuality isn't treatable so can't help you.

You try a psychiatrist, again the same answer.

So now you have your own child suffering from homosexuality. The golden question here is....would any.of your views change from what they are now?

And a second question. Would it be you, as their parent who would then be responsible for your child catching gayness?

 

[Claire Rousseau]

There is still a far leap from what is currently going on to people accepting or normalizing p***philia. Which is the only place we happen to disagree on this topic. I apparantly have more faith in humanity then you do.

As far as non offending pedophiles they should be able to seek treatment. There is always the option of chemical castration and I think it should be utilized far more often than it is. We also need to reform the way they are treated in the criminal justice system.. cuz right now they get barely a slap on the wrist and that’s unacceptable. We have many avenues we can legitimately Persue and be angry about without this illogical idea of people willfully accepting open pedophiles with open arms. I don’t think it will happen. I base the opinion on what I know of human behavior and what I’ve seen working in child protective services and with children in general.

I hope you are right. I hope p***philia never becomes “another” protected sexual orientation.

Because if it ever does, our last shred of humanity as humans will be destroyed.

Yes, stricter punishments should definitely be enforced for offenders.

I was reading an article about so-called “virtuous” pedophiles....who claim to only have sexual attraction for kids, but do not act on it.

A journalist spent time living with 3 of these men to see if there was an merit to their claims.

The first was accused of raping his foster daughter.

The second , named Jack, ADMITTED to “inappropriate touching & fondling of over 300 young boys”.

Jack said:

"My crimes were very calculated, very deliberate," says Jack. "I'd only own as many things as I could fit in my car so I could move from town to town, when I thought the cops were catching onto me. I'd switch from village, to town, to city. I'd just disappear overnight. I never signed a lease. I rented by the month on purpose. My whole life revolved around offending. And I made sure that it did. It was no fluke. Everything was calculated."

The third, Ian, has been with his “husband” for 9 years, and has never told him about his desire to be with children. Ian works at a special children’s home that takes in abused & neglected kids. His boss is unaware of his p***philia.

Ian says he never considered asking for help or treatment because he likes who he is. He says:

"I want to see these kids succeed and lead a happy, normal life. The kids know that, and they respond to it. I don't think I would be as interested in the kids or their wellbeing if I wasn't a p***phile. Channelling those feelings into something positive makes having to deal with the moments of my uncomfortable attraction worth it. p***philia is a part of me: I couldn't change it without changing who I am. My experiences, even the bad and unpleasant ones, make me a better person, not less of one. Sure, it makes things difficult, but it's not the entirety of my existence. My identity isn't based on who I'm attracted to. I like who I am, and I enjoy my life. I wouldn't trade it for anything."


Link to article:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/av39jz/i-spent-a-year-with-non-offending-paedophiles


I don’t know about you, but I would not let these men anywhere near children.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Consent does not make homosexual behavior any less unnatural or perverse. It is still vile, filthy, harmful, immoral and degenerate sexual misconduct that has been propagandized by the media to groom the public’s acceptance using dishonest manipulation tactics.

The homosexual agenda has been forced upon society as something people must accept as “normal”, but I will never change what I believe.

It’s almost as if you are unaware of your own role in the LGBTQ movement.

These attitudes are at the core of it. Your little life in a bubble is being pryed open and being forced into becoming a larger and more inclusive bubble that is more reflective of the true variety of human personalities, so your strong reaction is definitely understandable, but in the end it will only help catalyze the shift toward more inclusivity in the public sphere. *shrug*

 

[Lisa]

Can I just ask?.So if we are all God's creations then why did he create gay people?

In anticipation of you replying that we are all born heterosexual and some people just choose to be gay are you suggesting homosexuality can be cured?

God did not create sin nor did He create homosexuality. God created a man and a woman and through their disobedience sin came into the world. We are all born with a want to to sin. Homosexuality is sin, God did not create it and He does not tempt people to sin.
James 1:13‬ ‭
Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
‭‭
I don’t know that anyone can be cured of their sin, but they can be forgiven their sins. God will spend your lifetime sanctifying you after you believe in His Son Jesus then starts your life fighting the good fight against sin.
‭‭1 Timothy 6:11-12‬ ‭
But flee from these things, you man of God, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

If your defining heterosexuality by simply assigning sexual orientation to a person's "God given" geneatalia at birth then can you just try and explain what God was up to here please?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

"Blackless, Fausto-Sterling et al., said in two articles in 2000 that 1.7 percent of human births (1 in 60) might be intersex, including variations that may not become apparent until, for example, puberty, or until attempting to conceive"

....are you suggesting that this anomalie in human biology has nothing to do with God either? Are these poor people the work of Satan?



So by using the word behaviour you are inferring that gay people can stop behaving gay if they want to and start behaving like a heterosexual?.....How is that achieved then?



The fact that you can even entertain the question says a lot about how religion is one of the biggest creators of bigotry and intolerance. It's quite frightening when youj look at it in the cold light of day.



Have you considered that perhaps the handful of people you heard from were in fact bi-sexual who didn't really want the derogatory label of being bi-sexual? I could fully understand their reasoning if they were attending your church


.

Let me just run this hypothetical situation by you. In a few years time, around the age of their 18th birthday your own son sits you down and tells you that they are homosexual. Despite your strict religious upbringing, your unconditional love, all the lessons you passed on, all the scriptures, all the nurturing,your very own son was afflicted with this homosexuality disease.

So you take him to a psychologist to get him cured, he says homosexuality isn't treatable so can't help you.

You try a psychiatrist, again the same answer.

So now you have your own child suffering from homosexuality. The golden question here is....would any.of your views change from what they are now?

And a second question. Would it be you, as their parent who would then be responsible for your child catching gayness?

As far as your first question, I simply do NOT BELIEVE 1 in 60 People, “might” be intersex. But for the tiny fraction of them that may exist, sounds like a genetic defect. That’s not really relevant anyway.

And yes, homosexual behavior IS behavior. If a person does not engage in homo behavior, they cannot be labeled as a homo.

The former homos I heard testimonies from did not attend my church. What does bisexuality have to do with with? And how is that any less derogatory than homosexuality? They are both abominations, unnatural. Only heterosexuals are normal.

And your hypothetical situation is already moot. None of my sons are homos. But even if they were, that wouldn’t change my beliefs or how I feel about homosexuality one bit.

I have ensured that none of my kids have ever been victimized by homos, so I wouldn’t blame myself.

 

[Lisa]

ANYONE who can believe on Christ can be saved, no matter what they have done.

However, I think pedophiles are reprobates....the walking dead, who cannot believe, like The Hebrews 6 person who has rejected God for so long & so sincerely, that God has actually given HIS final rejection back.

The Bible describes what a reprobate is:

“Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.”.....Jeremiah 6:30 KJB



I believe it is too late for a p***phile because they actually HATE God, and don’t even want to think about Him.

How did the person become damned to the point they are no longer capable of being saved??

According to the Bible:

Romans 1(KJB):
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

p***philia is NOT a temptation that is common to man. I think we can ALL agree on that. In fact, the very thought of it makes ordinary people—saved AND unsaved—wince in disgust, and sickens us to where we don’t even want to think about it; the idea is repulsive. Same with homosexuality.

Something dramatic occurs in the heart of these individuals that would allow them to gravitate toward acts of such a vile nature....their conscience is completely seared and they are not only capable of the unthinkable, but as verse 32 above states: they actually have PLEASURE in those who do them.

The thing of it is, Claire, you would say these people are too far gone to be saved, but does the Bible actually preach that people are too far gone to be saved? Then would anyone be saved? Who could be saved?

Romans 1 talks about sinners, Paul is setting up the road of sin to salvation and Romans 1 starts off with the horribleness of sin. Carrying on we see that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If you say that these sins are too far gone then don’t you limit God in His salvation? Only the good sinners can be saved?

Yes their minds are dark and futile, but who’s minds aren’t?You like to condemn people and take away hope of salvation then. I ran across a Christian man’s blog and he and a commentator liked to condemn homosexual’s for their sins but didn’t bother to give them Jesus. I commented that this was wrong that you can’t condemn without giving people hope in Jesus but was shut down by them as they said those people did not deserve it. No one deserves salvation, that’s called grace, God gives His grace freely to all sinners-who are you to say this sinner can’t have grace-they’ve gone too far?
‭‭2 Peter 3:9‬ ‭
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

‭‭2 Corinthians 5:18-20‬
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
‭Paul begs people to be reconciled to God, Paul tells us on the Romans road, the problem- sin and he tells us the solution-Jesus. He didn’t leave people condemned but gave them hope in a new life in Jesus. I don’t think wishing sinners death and condemnation the way Christians should be after all..
John 3:17‬ ‭
For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
‭‭
He ate with sinners, He spoke to sinners, He saves sinners.
‭‭Romans 2:4‬ ‭
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?

 

[Claire Rousseau]

It’s almost as if you are unaware of your own role in the LGBTQ movement.

These attitudes are at the core of it. Your little life in a bubble is being pryed open and being forced into becoming a larger and more inclusive bubble that is more reflective of the true variety of human personalities, so your strong reaction is definitely understandable, but in the end it will only help catalyze the shift toward more inclusivity in the public sphere. *shrug*

I have no role in the LGBTQP whatsoever.

I do not associate with homos & never will.

 

[Lisa]

I used to watch on Sundays at my grandmother's house.. we'd all go over there for lunch.

She was a cute kid.

 

[Awoken2]

God did not create sin nor did He create homosexuality. God created a man and a woman and through their disobedience sin came into the world. We are all born with a want to to sin. Homosexuality is sin, God did not create it and He does not tempt people to sin.
James 1:13‬ ‭
Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
‭‭
I don’t know that anyone can be cured of their sin, but they can be forgiven their sins. God will spend your lifetime sanctifying you after you believe in His Son Jesus then starts your life fighting the good fight against sin.
‭‭1 Timothy 6:11-12‬ ‭
But flee from these things, you man of God, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

This post demonstrates quite clearly that you appear to lack any original thoughts of your own. Your standard response is to just post more Bible scripture in the hope that your point of view is then seen as righteous. If this type of bigotry is what your God wanted to develope then all I can say is we are all well and truly f**ked!