BTS discussion thread

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Bts are very huge sweetheart, you might not even know the slice of earth i live in but here everyone wears from bts and listen to bts, the problem is that the position they are taking in people's lives is not influencial anymore, their art doesn't really have any value, but their name does, people in my school dont even know what bts are singing about and dont even bother to search the lyrics, but they care when someone approaches them and say oh you listen to BTS that's cool, its like how you brag to people about having clothes from a big brand because you think its cool....although this might not be the whole fandom, but i will say more than 60% are like this, especially people who got to know them in their 2017's cool era...
Yu're right, the are pretty big worldwide, especially among teens. But as u said they are mainstream, they don't have lyrics or songs that people would attach with them. I remember my teen years artists, I was in them mostly cs of the lyrics that matched my feelings, they dont have it. They are hansome and catchy this is why they'll never be the legends. Taylor Swift often have the lyrics which maches a lot of girls feelings, beyonce used to have it too, this is why they are so popular for so many years. BTS is like beautiful cover of fashion magazine, u look at it, jealous, admire the beauty and fame, but when you open the magazine it is all commercial and you don't find anything interesting to read. This is what BTS, they don't give you that warm feelings when they sing and u like:"oh, this is what I feeling, this is about me", or "this is what I want to feel". So I think their fame will be quite short in USA, the teen fans will grow. But since Jk(the most popular and talented member) learning english, maby they have some plans in States and worldwide for him specifically.
 

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The veil is falling guys.And these brainwashed people,despite seeing the truth,refuse to see it for what it is and continue to have their rose-tinted opinions.I guess,it makes sense why they are called @rmy.They have to dutifully listen to their commanders without any questions.
These fans are angry that they paid people to pretend like them,but they don't get the point that they could as well be paying aka faking everything else.
If only they could remove their blinkers and look at the big picture.

But,the reason they have to use these paid actors is probably because for the visuals.Think about it guys,usually when they show their fans in these award shows,it is usually of asian-origin people.And there is also an argument that most of their fans in us are of asian origin.Now look at those paid actors.All caucasian,looks like in their twenties and there are even some men.It is a way to promote them,like telling,"Hey look!They are not limited to asian fans or teenage girls. They have caucasian fans too.And some are even older,not just teenagers and there are men too.They are bigger than you think and are widely accepted!".So,they are kind of priming people from the west to accept them more.
And yes,this is definitely the work of the company rather than bbm@.This is a ploy to expand their market.And bigger the market the more money they make.Fans may get agitated but,it doesn't matter.Because at the end of the day,fans are addicted and the company has no qualms of losing them.The company will continue to do these kind of tricks.It only needs money.

But how do you get to attend the bbmas in the first place? Is it like a concert where you pay money to get in? Since most of their fans are teenagers and kids maybe that's why it was empty. I mean they do fill stadiums so why didn't the fans come? And it caught my attention that there were a lot of asian attending the bbmas. And maybe to break that picture they hired actors like you said.

By the way their baby brothers have come out with a full english song today. But people still have a hard time understanding what they are singing.


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This is random but I always doubted RM has such a high IQ....for me this is just a character he has to play....Ive watched some interviews and RM is a very awkward individual

I think he is not so bright, at least not in social situations
Some of his answers are so dumb and superficial its surprising for a guy considered a "genius"

Knowing how manufactured those kpop groups are I have no doubt his "genius" image can be exagerated. Thats basically his role in the group
 

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Ok now I think you're all trying too hard to say everything about BTS is fake. Plenty of "geniuses" in this world have been known for being socially awkward, so that is not a good argument to say Namjoon's IQ is not as high as it's been told. Also, he allegedlly was in New Zealand a couple of months that's not enough to learn a language and speak it as well as he does now. I learned English by myself too so I don't see what's so sketchy about it. I agree he has the role of the smart one in the group but it doesn't mean it's not based on his actual abilities.

Anyway, just wanted to put my two cents. I'm not a die hard fan of theirs or anything. After reading some posts in this thread I can't see them the same and I haven't been able to read everything scared of what I might find. Carry on and thanks for seeking the truth.
 

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Ok now I think you're all trying too hard to say everything about BTS is fake. Plenty of "geniuses" in this world have been known for being socially awkward, so that is not a good argument to say Namjoon's IQ is not as high as it's been told. Also, he allegedlly was in New Zealand a couple of months that's not enough to learn a language and speak it as well as he does now. I learned English by myself too so I don't see what's so sketchy about it. I agree he has the role of the smart one in the group but it doesn't mean it's not based on his actual abilities.

Anyway, just wanted to put my two cents. I'm not a die hard fan of theirs or anything. After reading some posts in this thread I can't see them the same and I haven't been able to read everything scared of what I might find. Carry on and thanks for seeking the truth.
its true "geniuses" can be socially awkward
But RM answers during interviews are very dumb ...he comes off as very vapid and superficial

Maybe he trully is a "genius" and has trouble with communication....but In most situations Sugar comes off as smarter, or at least more "street smart" than him
of course this is just my opinion and the impression I get from him
 

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I just want to know: between writing lyrics and their grueling schedule, when does he ever have time to read all of these books lol.

Many pages ago, we talked about some of them being born into all of this. I personally think he is one of them if there's any truth to that. The privileges he gets make it seem that way to me.
 

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I just want to know: between writing lyrics and their grueling schedule, when does he ever have time to read all of these books lol.

Many pages ago, we talked about some of them being born into all of this. I personally think he is one of them if there's any truth to that. The privileges he gets make it seem that way to me.
according to the offical story the group was created around him
And he is the biggest contributor to their songs? not sure if this is true for the last album, I saw posted here they used other producers

But I find it weird that after all these years he is still the only one who speaks English and does all the press in America
Everything could be easier if the other members spoke the language and could participate in interviews too

But then RM would lose a lot of spotlight...and Im not sure if thats what Big Hit wants
 

I'm curious

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He didn't study for a couple of months.He studied for 10 years.Long enough to learn a language.This is a fbpage of nz kp0p fans that lists all kp0p idols who are related to nz.This is from the people who are from nz,so,the ground report.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.306031656076809.83570.220577457955563&type=1
And their oldest member is an exchange student in australia.He is fluent in english as well.But,chooses to act ignorant just to appeal to the fans.
And yes,learning a language by oneself is not a big deal.I learned two by myself in the past few months and am on the way to learn two more.
And it is also true that many geniuses are socially awkward.
But the grouse is that his description and behaviour somehow doesn't seem to gel well.And many feel it odd,intuitively.That gut instinct.
The whole kp0p act,irrespective of the group, is well,only an act.They put on a show with pre-scripted characters and present other content for money,fame and to spread the propaganda of their higher-ups.
So what you're saying is that they lied about how long he lived in NZ to make him look very smart for learning English by himself?Nothing is impossible I know. But do you have another source aside from that one comment? And why do you say J is fluent too?
 
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its true "geniuses" can be socially awkward
But RM answers during interviews are very dumb ...he comes off as very vapid and superficial

Maybe he trully is a "genius" and has trouble with communication....but In most situations Sugar comes off as smarter, or at least more "street smart" than him
of course this is just my opinion and the impression I get from him
I've always thought NJ comes from money and if Sugar really had to struggle to eat it's not surprising he's more street smart. Now I feel like inspecting their old interviews to check what you're saying lol. Btw it's not that I actually think NJ is a genius, I think he's smart but genius well...
 
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Dream about someone can have meaning you know.

My sister had a dream too, but it was about Kr1s \/\/u, ex-ex0 member. The dream was years ago, just around the time he left the group.
In the dream, she saw him in the same elevator as her. She was a fan of him back then (not anymore now) so she wanted to get closer to him, but Kr1s was cold towards her. Once the lift's door opened, he entered a room but the room was burning with fire. It was so hot my sister said, she didn't want to enter the room and she shouted to Kr1s to leave the room, but he didn't hear her. There was a guy, my sister didn't know who is he, the person told my sister to stay away from the room. She said the door was made of steel and extremely hot.

Fast forward 4-5 years later,

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thats interesting dream, I know dream have meaning, but what do you mean by fast forward years later? is there anything happened to kris?
 

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thats interesting dream, I know dream have meaning, but what do you mean by fast forward years later? is there anything happened to kris?
Since leaving the EXO, I have seen his eyes become colder and more lifeless …
In the KPop clips the elevator represents the way to Hell, and the burning piece, as well as the elevator to this red burning floor, really looks like the Biblical reference where hell is described as a world of fire.

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Since leaving the EXO, I have seen his eyes become colder and more lifeless …
In the KPop clips the elevator represents the way to Hell, and the burning piece, as well as the elevator to this red burning floor, really looks like the Biblical reference where hell is described as a world of fire.
Oh I see, I haven't watched this MV, I will watch it... dreams can be incredible and tell about the future :eek:
 

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Paid Actors..
And maybe paid for awards too..

It's weird but not uncommon, basically they just want to make sure they focus the camera on good looking people. It sounds weird but that's pretty much the reaosn for paying actors to go and scream. Many times they invite models and rich girls and boys, very good looking poeple and put then in front, VIP for free basically, that's common on many awards shows with audiences. As far as I know, in Korea they don't pay people yet, but the cameraman makes sure to focus on pretty girls and handsome boys. It just takes more time than doing this, I think they'll start planting fake fans pretty soon lol
 

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Hahah welcome to Hollyweird. You know you can get paid to attend these ceremonies including the Oscars? It’s called being a seat filler. Some people even hire doubles to replace them when on toilet (drug) break. And yes you can also buy awards, usually the record label/production company or the stars management pays. But you must know the right people.

Didn't see your reply before replying. Yes! that's a name they use. Hollywood is a weird place lol First time I heard about it I couldn't believe it
 

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It's weird but not uncommon, basically they just want to make sure they focus the camera on good looking people. It sounds weird but that's pretty much the reaosn for paying actors to go and scream. Many times they invite models and rich girls and boys, very good looking poeple and put then in front, VIP for free basically, that's common on many awards shows with audiences. As far as I know, in Korea they don't pay people yet, but the cameraman makes sure to focus on pretty girls and handsome boys. It just takes more time than doing this, I think they'll start planting fake fans pretty soon lol
Also to make sure it looks full lol
 

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This is random but I always doubted RM has such a high IQ....for me this is just a character he has to play....Ive watched some interviews and RM is a very awkward individual

I think he is not so bright, at least not in social situations
Some of his answers are so dumb and superficial its surprising for a guy considered a "genius"

Knowing how manufactured those kpop groups are I have no doubt his "genius" image can be exagerated. Thats basically his role in the group
I saw in a docu , can't remember the name, where the members of EXO were in an interview, they read the questions before the interview starts, and their manager decides which ones are out. After they decided which ones to answer, they then fabricate an answer according to how their character is more likely to answer. It was really crazy. The docu talked about how all the personalities were fabricated, one of them was supposed to be good in mastial arts and so on. I wasn't into kpop at all back when I saw it. I just thought it was really weird. Same stuff happens in JPop, even worse. It is ''well known'' many female JPop idols are prostituted and abused in other ways
but fans don't care even if they know.

I'm almost 100% sure this whole ''RM is smart'' is BS. But he's not stupid, none of them are, they're good at what they do, and what they do is play a character.
 

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Have any of you ever noticed that in BTS content, their music is playing in the background like all the time? Might have been a bit of an exaggeration, but I was going through old stuff on IG that I had saved, and had gotten that far down. So I viewed a few of the videos that I had saved in the past, and most of them had their music playing in the background.
 

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Also to make sure it looks full lol
Oh so that's why they're called Seat Fillers too..
Have any of you ever noticed that in BTS content, their music is playing in the background like all the time? Might have been a bit of an exaggeration, but I was going through old stuff on IG that I had saved, and had gotten that far down. So I viewed a few of the videos that I had saved in the past, and most of them had their music playing in the background.
Yes i have.. It's always the catchy parts of their songs too.. And it makes the viewer Want to listen to the whole thing
 

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Can i say a little about j00n?
I personally think that guys plays Dumb for a reason.. He's intelligent.. Hence chosen as a leader.. In debut days he appeared with some handler manager on tv screen for the first time and talked about energy..while the others were just hanging in the back stage Those videos have been shared here before..
And that game he played on some program where the answer was hidden in the sentences and he just turned his head and found the answer in a jiffy while others were surprised..
And he has the sing titled Moonchild.. So yes he might be the one born in it and with V in 4 0 clock song.. he also talked about being one..
And he said in the vlive i think that the new album had a sad vibe to it.. And b1gh1t asked Him to change it into a happy vibe.. Even h0bi's part was not so happy in the BWL song and he asked Rm to change to change it for him.. They just aren't used to being happy anymore maybe because of the dark themed past comebacks.. Who knows..
 
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