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No she wasn't. It was just repeating the original sin, that got them sent to the earth in the first place, for the SECOND time.I guess I will have to give you the long form.
Eve was correct in eating of the tree of knowledge and rejecting God.
As was already explained to you, but you did not understand, all of this is happening for a reason. Adam and Eve had the situation they had because of what they had done before they were put on the earth and into human bodies called "Adam & Eve".It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.
1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
This indicates that Jesus had no choice.
If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?
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No, He was giving them a SECOND chance, to be absolutely sure that they would not perhaps choose to do the right thing this time.God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.
Making what has followed even more sure, that it has all been deserved. You are deserving of everything that is and has ever happened to you, including right now.
God did not create the need. WE did.This then begs the question.
What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?
Insane and immoral people see everything upside down and backwards, instead of seeing it like it really is.Only an insane and immoral God. That’s who.
Woman (Eve) chose this situation by her choice in the Garden. Free-will.The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.
One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women. They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.
But that does not mean men have the right to treat women badly. It just means men have a higher rank than women and should be in charge.
It is all man's fault. You are responsible for all of your thoughts, words and actions. That is part of the lesson that we were sent here to learn and people need to acknowledge.Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.
The nature you were given is what you have earned and deserved and it is also showing you what you need to learn to overcome.That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."
But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.
That is why "you are your own worst enemy" (and always have been).
Which is why you have to learn to overcome your sinful human (animal) nature by being reborn from above as your spirit-being (the real you which is NOT human).If all sin by nature, then the sin nature is dominant.
Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the Commandments and Ordinances of the Lord blameless.If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.
No it is not, because you (your being) knows that you need to be better than just a smelly animal following it's natural selfish insticts.That being the case, for God to punish us for following the instincts and natures he put in us would be quite wrong.
You were put into that, because that is what you need to see and learn to overcome to be able to return to not having to bear that burden (your cross) anymore (by crucifying it - the "self" - your selfishness).
Yes, because this is not the first time that you have been sent here, and you already became sinful by transgressing even before you were born here for the first time.Psalm 51:5 "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."
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Rev. 12:7-9
Learning to cooperate would be a nice change, instead of just having all of this competition.Having said the above for the God that I do not believe in, I am a Gnostic Christian naturalist, let me tell you that evil is all human generated. Evil is our responsibility.
Much has been written to explain what I see as a natural part of evolution.
Consider.
First, let us eliminate what some see as evil. Natural disasters. These are unthinking occurrences and are neither good nor evil. There is no intent to do evil even as victims are created.
Evil then is only human to human.
As evolving creatures, all we ever do, and ever can do, is compete or cooperate.
Cooperation we would see as good as there are no victims created. Competition would be seen as evil as it creates a victim. We all are either cooperating, doing good, or competing, doing evil at all times.
A healthy level of friendly competition without the pride could probably be ok, but only if that is held to be within an environment where there is unselfish Love and cooperation being dominant. To bring out the best of people, instead of bringing out the worst.Without us doing some of both, we would likely go extinct.
If we as people did not choose to think, speak or do evil to others, but instead all chose to be good to one another instead, then there would not be any need for natural disasters to occur.This, to me, explains why there is evil in the world quite well.
Be you a believer in nature, evolution or God, we should all see that what Christians see as something to blame, evil, we should see that what we have, competition, deserves a huge thanks for being available to us.
There is no conflict between nature and God on this issue.
Everything is planned down to the smallest detail, and nothing happens by chance. There is no such thing as coincidence. Only "sowing and reaping".This is how things are and should be.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap.
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