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But Kanye is bipolar, so being sad and depressed is just a part of his life. It might not have to do with this stuff. People with this disorder at one point of time during the year are really depressed. Then it switches to very happy. This goes on until they die.


Vii is an emotional person. He likes art, he even draws. So if he isn't getting along with one member that alone can mess him up. They are together 24/7 during those promotions and touring.


Earlier you guys were talking about this I think:
It looks like he is getting even angrier when jamal says that.




Look how members get worried when they ask him if he want to make it right with someone on live tv. And they crack up when he mentions something irrelevant. Even candy smiled at that. Genie borderline scared or is it just me?



And also feels like those 2 have a love/hate relationship. And you don't want to get on Jamal bad side.

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:
https://twitter.com/kimvanadium/status/1121251023094292480?s=20
His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?
https://twitter.com/aroharmybaby/status/1116347866543345665?s=20
More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.
https://twitter.com/loverofoptimism/status/1119960924264095745?s=20

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.
 
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I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:
His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?
More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

That is a thought.
 

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I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:
His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?
More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.
But we don't know if that made up story is actually his real background.

Being constantly away from your family brother, sister for months/years. Seeing them only a couple of times a year is not enough. Even talking on a phone after a while gets hard to do. This gets people estranged from each other. And if his sister was younger then she never got the chance to grow up with him and teenage years are important. Being away this much could of lead his siblings not to care about him or not want to get in contact with him anymore.



Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like they do fight. It wouldn't be normal if they didn't anyways.

 

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But we don't know if that made up story is actually his real background.

Being constantly away from your family brother, sister for months/years. Seeing them only a couple of times a year is not enough. Even talking on a phone after a while gets hard to do. This gets people estranged from each other. And if his sister was younger then she never got the chance to grow up with him and teenage years are important. Being away this much could of lead his siblings not to care about him or not want to get in contact with him anymore.



Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like they do fight. It wouldn't be normal if they didn't anyways.

Of course not, it is merely a theory not fact, based on several instances of him mentioning his family, such as the fact that he used to mention them a lot before and has stopped doing so and saying they dont know him. Of course it makes sense for members to fight, it is only normal, but that is different to a long dispute/conflict. Nevetheless parents are different to siblings, the emotional attachment between a parent and child is different. Distance from family affecs a lot of idols, but I dont think parents would ever stop caring about their child. Truth is the exact cause of his poor mental state is not known, mostly likely mutiple factors contribute. Working in the satanic music industry alone is a risk factor, let alone if other problems are involved. There is a reason all these young celebrities who feel like they should be on top of the world suffer immensely (although a lot of them have been though abuse and come from broken families).
 
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It is possible to fake it.There is an acquaintance who had to fake a personality and they did it for around 8 years because,reasons. Then, one day,they were like,"I'm starting to become too fake.Let us take a break" and they did a 180 degree flip,freaking out everyone.But,over time,they managed to get a balance between the two.
Besides,this guy is playing a part,a character in this mega show about a boy group(the whole bt5 project) produced by their boss.It is only natural to be off-character once in a while.
And his stance in those red carpet photos with hands behind his back and the way he stood,it is very telling that he feels superior to the rest of the group.It's not that he is done with them,it is rather that he feels that he is more deserving and doesn't want to associate with them.And in some earlier posts,it was pointed out that he was in a higher degree than the rest of them earlier and that,they closed in the gap pretty quickly.So,it could be more of an anger that they did so easily what he took so long and worked so hard.It won't even be a surprise if he leaves the group and pursues acting.The new contract is not about them singing.It's about the company owning them,whatever they do over the next 7 years,to ensure that it still gets royalties from their old music and any of their new pursuits.Actually,the company needs him more as it appears that he draws in more international fans,meaning more money.
There’s this youtuber called Christina who used to be a kpop idol and trainee and I watched old clips of her as an idol (I can’t remember if it was her reviewing herself as an idol or just the clip) but as an idol she had dyed bright blonde hair and was super bubbly and loud and cheery and when watching herself she said how her company told her to be this bubbly person (irl she’s really quiet and introverted)
I’ll try and find the video.
Also ages ago, maybe in 2016? I remember reading an interview with bighit ceo bang*** and he said how he drew inspiration from animes such as naruto to cultivate bts personas. Interesting.
I can’t find the interview anymore but its out there somewhere lol
 

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KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.
 

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KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.
It’s hard to tell with Namjoon. When I first read this forum I totally believed him to be the bad guy and I could picture it and see it so clearly. But now, I’m not so sure. I feel like he’s done more/ responisible for more than the others, but I also feel like he is just as innocent and also a victim.
As for Tae looking up to Namjoon, I agree and I thought the same when I read the Wings memory book (forgot the name but the big Wings book) and Tae talked about how he feels like he let Namjoon down and is thankful to him etc, and this showed when they worked on 4 o’clock together. Namjoon is the main reason why Tae is in bts so, it makes sense.
 

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KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.
I heard that he was the first chosen member. So they tried to make a group that fits with him in the middle. He is their "leader" so its his duty to "handle" the group. When fights happens between members he has to make them talk it out and make peace etc. I've seen him manage Vii especialy. He does have different character, does act weird/childish sometimes. He talks gibberish sometimes. I don't know if that's him or his fake character. After performances they have to pull him sometimes or get along with his state of mind sometimes. Maybe that's why he says the members knows him better than his family. I don't think Korean families would accept that kind of attitude from their son. Being with them he has continued acting like a kid a little.

And Monsta is smart since he has learned a language by himself. He does write some lyrics and his name is almost always seen on the songs info. He might talk with artists they want to collab with but other than that I don't see him doing anything special. The company handles most of it.
 
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It’s hard to tell with Namjoon. When I first read this forum I totally believed him to be the bad guy and I could picture it and see it so clearly. But now, I’m not so sure. I feel like he’s done more/ responisible for more than the others, but I also feel like he is just as innocent and also a victim.
I see... yes he's too, a victim.
But one thing for sure, he knows better than the rest of members. The book he's reading and other dark philosophy and occult/satanic in the core.

I've seen him manage Vii especialy. He does have different character, does act weird/childish sometimes. He talks gibberish sometimes. I don't know if that's him or his fake character. After performances they have to grab him sometimes or get along with his state of mind sometimes. Maybe that's why he says the members knows him better than his family. I don't think Korean families would accept that kind of attiture from their son. Being with them he has continued acting like a kid/not mature.
Hmm, like how do you think he managed Vii?

And wow, "after performances they have to grab him sometimes"

wait what?! what do u mean?
 

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Va_n of BT_21 represents the third column of Freemasonry, I still mark everything, but I made some additions to my column article: Voir the colomns of Freemason:
http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/symbolisme-des-colonnes-a161738380
Bt21 is going to have a collaboration with hell 0 kitty..
And the second brand is surrounded by some creepy background stories.. Even lady g4g4 wore a hell 0 kityy dress once which was weird
And yes van occupies the middle position in many Bt21 pictures
 

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"What if they did something bad to get fame?Does it matter?
Just be happy for others' success,rather than trying to point out what they might've done behind the scene.
What will you get by pointing out any negative side of those who have success?
Does it make you feel higher or better?You will only be stuck in this negative point of view.
And,they will keep doing their thing anyway and have success."
This is what an acquaintance has to say when I tried to show them the truth behind the showbiz.
So,what is your take on this,guys?:)
This is a sign of a sick mentality.. The weakest sign of a goodness in a human is to Atleast condemn what is wrong if you can't stop the bad thing by hand..
 

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I see... yes he's too, a victim.
But one thing for sure, he knows better than the rest of members. The book he's reading and other dark philosophy and occult/satanic in the core.



Hmm, like how do you think he managed Vii?

And wow, "after performances they have to grab him sometimes"

wait what?! what do u mean?
lol I'm sorry If I wasn't clear enough there. (English is not my first language) When I said grab him, I meant they have to pull him sometimes after their performances when it's time to go. He tends to linger on stage or his mind wanders off. And "handle" like cover for him maybe in a way I don't know how to explain it in english very well. Like a parent has to be understanding of his child that acts out. And he says ok, lets go or tries to do the same thng he does so he doesn't get angry or upset. When posing you can seem him even putting his hand over him/hugging him even so he feels better and not left out etc. You know what I mean? :) Don't get me wrong guys.
 

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"What if they did something bad to get fame?Does it matter?
Just be happy for others' success,rather than trying to point out what they might've done behind the scene.
What will you get by pointing out any negative side of those who have success?
Does it make you feel higher or better?You will only be stuck in this negative point of view.
And,they will keep doing their thing anyway and have success."
This is what an acquaintance has to say when I tried to show them the truth behind the showbiz.
So,what is your take on this,guys?:)
I would say this to them:
This is not like cheating on a test bad. This is like messing up the whole world youth mind. And we are talking about people worshiping the devil himself. They want to end gender and religion altogether.

"Selling" your soul to the devil and with that condemning your eternal life in the hereafter to hell. Just for money and only for a short time that they will be spending in this world, is that worth it? Can we really call that being "sucessful"? (I don't think so)

It doesn't make us feel anything. Only a psycho would be happy that people are doing bad stuff. Pointing out the negative stuff is only to be aware and be ready to fight against it. To wake people against it etc. There is a saying "Keep your friend close and keep your enemy closer" Nobody is "stuck" to anything. There isn't any positive side to the devil and his work. But I understand what you're saying. A positive way is that the members are praying for them to see the right path and leave this industry. But just like another person said before "Fame is like a poisonous honey that kills the heart. And makes a person slave/servant to the people." So earning a lot a money is not always good. Would you sell your soul and put your eternal life in the hereafter in jeopardy just for "money"? Do not forget that this life is temporary. And don't be so materialistic that's not healthy.
 
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What kind of fan service is that?
http://instagr.am/p/BwzTFgXgbWv/

And I was trying not to mention it but I have because Genie fell on the "idol" song when he was in the middle of the stage.
And call me crazy because I don't think this is just a coincidence.

And also jamal almost lived the same fate as MJ. He almost got burned by a firework.
 
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You can see that despite all the happy faces there is a real struggle.
http://instagr.am/p/Bwzcrb5gCBV/
Jk looks worried.
If all of these years his persona was indeed just an act, a scripted character to hold 24/7 , it is indeed very sad.

Looking at the actual performance it doesnt look like they're looking directly at each other. It could just be from this person's angle and thus it's feeding into the whole Taekook shipping frenzy.

Edit: See the screenshot I added in case anyone doesn't want to watch it.
 

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look at their expresions....Sugar eyes are so telling
Just observing this you can tell they dont enjoy fanservice or the stupid things they have to do

I think most of them are fed up .....I start to believe this group wont be here for much loger tbh. I feel like we are watching the end stages of something (might be my wishful thinking but.....they are strange)
 
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look at their expresions....Sugar eyes are so telling
Just observing this you can tell they dont enjoy fanservice or the stupid things they have to do

I think most of them are fed up .....I start to believe this group wont be here for much loger tbh. I feel like we are watching the end stages of something (might be my wishful thinking but.....they are strange)
Kpop in korea is mostly targeting kids and teenagers. The fans are deeply into that baby cute stuff. And maybe that's why those groups don't usually continue their career into their 30 and up.
 

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Hi everyone. So happy to find this thread and go down this crazy and sad rabbit hole. I'm learning SO much. I was hooked on BTS after they released Dope, but got extremely disinterested once they got popular in America. I feel like I'm going through a breakup because I just deleted all their pics from my phone haha.

I'm wondering if anyone is into astrology on here? I looked at a chart made up for their debut time and noticed some questionable things. But the big thing and maybe it's been mentioned on here was that they debuted on June 13th 2013. I don't know really anything about numerology, but with everything else it's like damnn

here's the blog with a person's interpretation. but of course i guess it's in a more positive light since they're a fan. https://bangtanastrology.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F167270981092
Also is anyone gonna watch the BBMAs? It's held on May 1st this year and incidentally, that's an occult holiday
 

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