There is no Good Friday: it was on a Wednesday

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Which belief of yours puts you at odds (i.e. in opposition) with Jesus Words and Prophecy, regarding His own burial and Resurrection happening over the course of three days AND three nights, as well as on other issues that have all now been shown, like it saying Sabbaths in Greek in Matthew.
Exodus 12 Now the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, 2 “This month shall be your beginning of months; it shall be the first month of the year to you. 3 Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying: ‘On the tenth of this month every man shall take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household.

6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.

16 On the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and on the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation for you. No manner of work shall be done on them; but that which everyone must eat—that only may be prepared by you. 17 So you shall observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread, for on this same day I will have brought your armies out of the land of Egypt. Therefore you shall observe this day throughout your generations as an everlasting ordinance.



Jesus rode into Jerusalem on 10 Nisan and was crucified on 14 Nisan before the high/holy day on 15 Nisan.

That sabbath which was a high/holy day was Saturday 15 Nisan. So Jesus was crucified on Friday 14 Nisan.


You are taking an idiom and running with it into la la land.
 

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The account in Luke confirms this as well.

Luke 23:44-56
23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
23:45 And the sun was darkened, and the "Temple Veil" (to the "Holy of Holies") was rent in the midst.
23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the Spirit.
23:47 Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man.
23:48 And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.
23:49 And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things.
23:50 And, behold, [there was] a man named Joseph, a counsellor (and "Minister of Mines" - to the romans as well as the jews); [and he was] a good man, and a just (and was Jesus' great-uncle):
23:51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them; ) [he was] of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the Kingdom of God.
23:52 This [man] went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the (high) Sabbath drew on.
23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments (on Friday); and rested the Sabbath day according to the Commandment.

Please pay particular attention to the final three verses.
Okay... Jesus was laid in the sepulchre on preparation day... before the sabbath day... and early on the first day of the week the women came to the sepulchre according to the next verse in Luke 24:1.
 

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Luke 23 50 Now behold, there was a man named Joseph, a council member, a good and just man. 51 He had not consented to their decision and deed. He was from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who himself was also waiting for the kingdom of God. 52 This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53 Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. 54 That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.

55 And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

Luke 24 Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.


The successive days from crucifixion to resurrection are according to Luke... preparation day - sabbath day - the first day of the week.


Why Matthew 28:1 wrote sabbaths is because that sabbath was a high day according to John 19:31. That sabbath coincided with a high day... the first day of the feast of unleavened bread namely 15 Nisan.
 
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That is not three days AND three nights, like Jesus and His Father says.

You have to read the other Gospels too and compare them and put it all together; you can't just pick out one and then try to use it alone to try make it fit and support your view...

I just met someone on another forum, from a family who has also made this exact same discovery (and from what they discovered for themselves have also come to believe exactly the same as it says in the OP) through their own independent Bible study and they have believed it now for 12 years.

That is just actually what it says, when you properly research and compare what it says in the Bible.

So, there are other people too who have also come to this exact same conclusion all on their own.
 

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That is not three days AND three nights, like Jesus and His Father says.
That's right.


You have to read the other Gospels too and compare them and put it all together; you can't just pick out one and then try to use it alone to try make it fit and support your view...
The detailed Gospel order of events are Jesus crucified on the preparation day before the sabbath day and resurrected early morning on the first day of the week.


I just met someone on another forum, from a family who has also made this exact same discovery (and from what they discovered for themselves have also come to believe exactly the same as it says in the OP) through their own independent Bible study and they have believed it now for 12 years.
There are many more who run with the idiom of three days and three nights and ignore all other information that contradict this idiom.
 

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Being stubborn will not make what is wrong, right.

You are unbelievable... calling Jesus a liar.
You are believable... thinking Jesus is Jah ?


Jesus said several times He would rise on the third day... and He was right.

The very detailed Gospel order of events describe His crucifixion on the preparation day before the sabbath day before His resurrection early on the first day of the week.

The original Gospel word for preparation Strong's G3904 - paraskeuē is the Greek word for Friday.

That sabbath day which was a high day coincided with the first day of unleavened bread which is always on 15 Nisan.

And the Lord's Passover is always on 14 Nisan.


All the data fit a Friday crucifixion... except a saying found only once... three days and three nights.
 
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Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.
 
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Three evenings and three mornings (three nights and three days / three days and three nights) and Christ rising again on the third day:

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the First Day.

This is important, because according to God in the Bible, it is the evening first and then follows the morning, which is what makes "a day". (Therefore, the date also should be counted like that to be correct, changing over to the next day/date at sunset, instead of at midnight like the convention of today).


When done in this way, then it works out perfectly:


Wednesday, 21 st of April in 34 AD - The crucifixion (forty years after the birth of Jesus in 7 BC).
http://jahtruth.net/passnot.htm#Wednesday

(Now, if you start counting the days, from the exact time they put the body of The Lord in the tomb; and remember, that they had to hurry, because the "high"/holy day (special Sabbath - which fell on the Thursday of 34 AD - hence Sabbaths, in Matthew) drew on, and get His body placed into the tomb, and the tomb sealed up, which they had to complete before the "high" Sabbath day began: )


Day 1 (first 24 hours, + the time from His burial on the previous day, until the sun had set)
From the exact time that The Lord's body was laid in the tomb and the tomb was closed up (which was still before sunset occurred, after the crucifixion on the Wednesday) until sunset, and then until the next day began at the next sunset. So, the three days and three nights began while it was still Wednesday (therefore, the +), and then add to that time, the time of Thursday evening and of Thursday morning: 24 hours).

i.e. 1 evening , 1 morning = 24 hours+ (+, because it is + the time from the moment of His burial, which was still before sunset on the previous day, until the sun set, which is when the "high" Sabbath [on Thursday in 34 AD] began).


Day 2 (48 hours+)
From sunset (after Thursday was over) until the next sunset.
Friday evening 12 hrs + Friday morning 12hrs, +.

(2 evenings and 2 mornings+ = 48 hours+)


Day 3 (72 hours - three days and three nights).
From sunset (after Friday was over) until He rose again on The Sabbath - the third day.
Saturday/Sabbath evening 12 hrs + Saturday/Sabbath morning, until He rose again on the third day - adding up to 72 hours.

(3 evenings and 3 mornings - 72 hours - after which Christ rose again on the 3rd day / on the (weekly) Sabbath Day).

Which then gives the full 3 days and three nights (72 hours) and after which Christ rose again, while it was still on the third day (as He said He would).

So, He rose again on the third day, after having been in the tomb, for three days AND three nights (just like He said He was going to be).

So, there is no contradiction and both of Jesus statements are proven correct. Jesus did not use "an idiom", but told us EXACTLY what would happen, and it happened EXACTLY as He and God said that it would. It happened, EXACTLY as it says.

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The conventional explanation given by the churches falls apart completely, even when trying to work it out with conventional thinking, it doesn't even get to 36 hours, because, the Bible says that when the women arrived at the tomb in the wee hours of Sunday morning, they found it empty because by then, He was already gone from the tomb (Risen - not there).

That means: If (by conventional thinking) He was crucified on Friday (which He was not), and was then buried just before sunset, and was already gone in the wee (small) hours of Sunday... it doesn't even come to 2 days, never mind 3 days, or three days and three nights! Count it. This is what you get:

Just before sunset on Friday, till sunset on Saturday (24 hours+)
Sunset on saturday, till the wee hours on Sunday morning (12 more hours? - did we even make it all the way to 36? and that's being generous).

That's not even 2 full days (48 hours) never mind three days, never mind three days AND three nights as Christ said.

To believe it was on Friday is not just a little bit off, it's completely absurd (and living in la la land).

Jesus said several times He would rise on the third day... and He was right.
Yes He was right. Just like He was also right when He said that He would be in the tomb for three days AND three nights.

All the data fit a Friday crucifixion... except a saying found only once... three days and three nights.
All the data fits a Wednesday crucifixion, period.
 
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All the data fits a Wednesday crucifixion, period.
Again the Greek word paraskue which was translated as preparation is the Greek word for Friday. Besides the detailed Gospel order of events describe Jesus as crucified on the preparation day before the sabbath day before the first day of the week.

I see Jah thinks Jesus was born in 7 BC but this is easily proven wrong as well because He was baptised being almost 30 years old in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar.

Also the 7 sevens and 62 sevens in Daniel's prophecy until the Messiah completed in early Nisan 33 AD.

And there is a historical record that in the Olympiad 202 year 4 there was an event where the day turned into night at noon. Olympiad 202 year 4 began Midsummer 32 AD and lasted to Midsummer 33 AD.


So corroborating data confirm a 33 AD crucifixion.
 
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Again the Greek word paraskue which was translated as preparation is the Greek word for Friday. Besides the detailed Gospel order of events describe Jesus as crucified on the preparation day before the sabbath day before the first day of the week.

I see Jah thinks Jesus was born in 7 BC but this is easily proven wrong as well because He was baptised being almost 30 years old in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar.
The Wednesday would obviously have been a preparation day too, as there is always a preparation day before any Sabbath, including the high/holy days additional Sabbaths that we are given in The Law.

It also says when he began to be about 30, not almost 30. It means they didn't know exactly what Jesus' age was, because Jesus had been gone for a long time and was not from there.That is why Jesus had to pay the strangers's tax (which was only payable by strangers/foreigners).

You are believable... thinking Jesus is Jah ?
He said He would be here. The "Fig Tree" date given by Jesus, was April 22 1948. You should read On The Way To Emmaus Again.

Also the 7 sevens and 62 sevens in Daniel's prophecy until the Messiah completed in early Nisan 33 AD.

And there is a historical record that in the Olympiad 202 year 4 there was an event where the day turned into night at noon. Olympiad 202 year 4 began Midsummer 32 AD and lasted to Midsummer 33 AD.


So corroborating data confirm a 33 AD crucifixion.
God said in Daniel, that it would be on a Wednesday (in the midst of the week, when Messiah would be cut off) not on a Friday (end of the week). So any supposed "data" that claims different (contradicting God) is either inaccurate or it is just plain wrong.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm The Covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations He shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation (the "Lake of Hell-Fire"), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

God also said in the Bible that the body (Jesus) would be prepared and given to His Son to be used for a generation (40 years according to scripture) in Psalm 22.

Which therefore again confirms Jesus birth in 7 BC, because God says so.

So you can choose to believe God, or choose to believe the world. It's best to believe God.

Passover Lamb NOT Easter bunny.
 
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The Wednesday would obviously have been a preparation day too, as there is always a preparation day before any Sabbath, including the high/holy days additional Sabbaths that we are given in The Law.
Again the Greek word Strong's G3904 - paraskeuē is the Greek word for Friday.

The detailed Gospel order of events describe paraskeuē/preparation day before the sabbath day before the first day of the week.


It also says when he began to be about 30, not almost 30.
So He was at least 29 and a half years old.


It means they didn't know exactly what Jesus' age was, because Jesus had been gone for a long time and was not from there.That is why Jesus had to pay the strangers's tax (which was only payable by strangers/foreigners).
The Temple tax half a shekel was paid by all Jewish males 20 years and older.


God said in Daniel, that it would be on a Wednesday (in the midst of the week, when Messiah would be cut off)
God said no such thing.

Besides you make the 70th and last week/seven to be seven days and not seven years.


God also said in the Bible that the body (Jesus) would be prepared and given to His Son to be used for a generation (40 years according to scripture) in Psalm 22.
Again God said no such thing... but a posterity will serve and declare the Lord to the next generation.


Which therefore again confirms Jesus birth in 7 BC, because God says so.
Jesus was just about 30 years old when baptised in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar who began to reign in the autumn of 14 AD.


So you can choose to believe God, or choose to believe the world. It's best to believe God.
I agree.
 
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Yes, it's the Greek word that is used for Friday, because in Greece, Friday is not called Friday, it is called "preparation day", as it would also be called before any other Sabbath day, that does not fall on the seventh day (Saturday).

Matthew
17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute [money] came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute (the Stranger's Tax)?
17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
17:26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

Psalm
22:30 A seed shall serve Him; it (the human body Jesus) shall be accounted to the Lord (Christ) for a generation (40 years).

Daniel
9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and The Sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
9:27 And he shall confirm The Covenant with many for one week (7 years): and in the midst of the week (Wednesday) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations He shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation (the "Lake of Hell-Fire"), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

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Yes, it's the Greek word that is used for Friday, because in Greece, Friday is not called Friday, it is called "preparation day", as it would also be called before any other Sabbath day, that does not fall on the seventh day (Saturday).
No the Greek word for Friday is παρασκευή Strong's G3904 - paraskeuē translated into English as Preparation. It is in Greek the word for Friday. Not Wednesday Thursday etc etc but Friday and Friday only. It is the Greek word for Friday.L0L.

Any Greeks on the forum ?
 
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No the Greek word for Friday is παρασκευή Strong's G3904 - paraskeuē translated into English as Preparation. It is in Greek the word for Friday. Not Wednesday Thursday etc etc but Friday and Friday only. It is the Greek word for Friday.L0L.

Any Greeks on the forum ?
In Greek, it (Paraskeue - the word used to name the 6th day) means preparation (for the Sabbath - Sabbaton).

It does not mean "Friday" even though it is used for the same day.

In Greece, "preparation" is the name used for the 6th day (like the others - second, third, forth, fifth day - except for the first day which they call the Lord's Day -Kyriake ).

Like the Catholic church also does, but we know that's wrong.

It's only logical that you would have a preparation day before other Sabbath days too. Just because they wrote preparation, doesn't mean the Greeks have defined which day it was.

It's going to be the preparation (day) before every Sabbath day, not just the weekly ones.
 
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In Greek, it (Paraskeue - the word used to name the 6th day) means preparation (for the Sabbath - Sabbaton).
It does not mean "Friday", even though it is on it.
Let me get my spoon.

So the Greeks have Greek words for the days of the week.

Monday – Δευτέρα – Theftera
Tuesday – Τρίτη – Triti
Wednesday – Τετάρτη – Tetarti
Thursday – Πέμπτη – Pemti
Friday – Παρασκευή – Paraskevi
Saturday – Σάββατο – Sabato
Sunday – Κυριακή – Kiriaki


Mark 15 42 And now when the even was come, because it was Friday – Παρασκευή – Paraskevi, that is, the day before the sabbath,
 
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Let me get my spoon.

So the Greeks have Greek words for the days of the week.

Monday – Δευτέρα – Theftera
Tuesday – Τρίτη – Triti
Wednesday – Τετάρτη – Tetarti
Thursday – Πέμπτη – Pemti
Friday – Παρασκευή – Paraskevi
Saturday – Σάββατο – Sabato
Sunday – Κυριακή – Kiriaki


Mark 15 42 And now when the even was come, because it was Friday – Παρασκευή – Paraskevi, that is, the day before the sabbath,
Do you know what Friday means, please?
 
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And it is the preparation day before each Sabbath - the day you use to prepare for it (because you are not going to go shopping on the Sabbath day).

This is so, also for other high/holy (Sabbath) days. Not just the weekly ones (Saturdays).
 
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Mark 15 42 And now when the even was come, because it was Friday – Παρασκευή – Paraskevi, that is, the day before the sabbath,
Every now and again, it is also not on a "Friday" that you have a preparation day.

Like it was in 34 AD, when there were two Sabbaths in the same week (Matthew), and thus they also had two preparation (Παρασκευή – Paraskevi) days. One of them, before each Sabbath.
 
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