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Nice catch I didn't notice the belt.

I don't think Vee has chosen that color. That story is probably fake. His hair light or dark or any shades of blue, I bet he will continue to wear that for sometimes. He has dyed his hair blue before so that's not new. So why he is saying I saw this color somewhere and I wanted to do it. Like this was the first time he did it? This is fishy, no?

Translation by a fan: “About V’s hair colour - did you choose it yourself? A TMI”
: TMI? Actually, this colour is one that I chose. Originally, it was another colour, but after I saw a photo of blue hair, I said “I must do this!” and so I did it!"

When he had blue hair before:

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Hardcore bt3 fans in their home country spending more than 5000 $ on merch etc. And their parents also fooled are supporting and becoming fan themselves. She said she had to skip meals and stop hanging out with friends to afford the merch. This is crazy! Then I bet it wasn't enough so she started a youtube channel. And she says thanks to them I started liking filming so now I'm studying or will study film.

The mother is so dumb, women like her shouldnt be allowed to have kids since she cant educate her child and say "no" to some of her bad actions.
She also say"they have a great personalities and good message" Lmaoo i have to laugh. What kind of parent is that, so brainwashed.
 

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Nice catch I didn't notice the belt.

I don't think Vee has chosen that color. That story is probably fake. His hair light or dark or any shades of blue, I bet he will continue to wear that for sometimes. He has dyed his hair blue before so that's not new. So why he is saying I saw this color somewhere and I wanted to do it. Like this was the first time he did it? This is fishy, no?

Translation by a fan: “About V’s hair colour - did you choose it yourself? A TMI”
: TMI? Actually, this colour is one that I chose. Originally, it was another colour, but after I saw a photo of blue hair, I said “I must do this!” and so I did it!"

When he had blue hair before:

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Hardcore bt3 fans in their home country spending more than 5000 $ on merch etc. And their parents also fooled are supporting and becoming fan themselves. She said she had to skip meals and stop hanging out with friends to afford the merch. This is crazy! Then I bet it wasn't enough so she started a youtube channel. And she says thanks to them I started liking filming so now I'm studying or will study film.




In their second performance they are wearing black cloak this time. Then they are wearing suits. The atmosphere feels like they are in hell. Pillars in the back. There is also fire around them. But doing this stuff with symbolism or whatever what does it really mean what does it achieve that's what I wonder?? Are they putting a spell on people by doing this?

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I always see these performances like they are rituals and the audience are participants unbeknownst to them.
 

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They just the no1 album here in the uk and they never even promoted here their power is scary sometimes
In my country there are #5 too, i was shocked.. but then maybe its because nowday people dont care about music that much to the
point to buy albums when free music is all over internet. I dont hear any of my aquitance buying albums, simply bc you can access to it freely
Its just armys who are obssesed to buy everything linked to their oppas, no one else. There are also photocards and unseen picture of bts in them. Its just show that armys spend a lot of money
 

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A lot of black and white duality in dionysus and anybody noticed the red lights? They seemed to revolve a lot around mostly 2 members jin and v and those lights seem to be of a very high intensity covering even the blackness of their hair.. I mean those could affect your eyes
And they made weird patterns on them mostly like HORNS? They kind of felt like horns
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The lights on the table are 6 in number.. The ones that reach upto their heads and faces.. Can't count them
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Of course j00n must have been asked to close the song with one eye covered.. Either one eye is covered or either its the Shhh sign (finger on lips)
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New song of Cai Xukun:
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I just read this thread

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-bad-is-the-us-music-industry-if-kpop-is-taking-over-the-industry.1978967/

users are saying that BTS is not popular as the media shows it in USA, I thought based on the media, that many American does knows BTS, I think the Illuminati are trying hard to shows like everybody does knows them

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One said that bigbang and stuff are still out there. So that scandal didn't come out for nothing. They are pushing the kpop genre/agenda no matter if people like it or not. Their main goal is the youth. 9-10 years old girls and up. Maybe that's why we can't really understand its impacts right now. That person who wrote this comment maybe has grown out of the kpop world since she/he is older now.

But children are the future in 5-10 years. And especialy girls/women are the most important part of a family or society in general. One of the reasons is that they have babies and raise their child. So a messed up mom can contribute to the spread of more messsed up people etc. They want to change people's ideology about genders.



This people plans for years and years ahead. 10 years ago who could of guessed that a lgbt looking boy band would be filling stadiums in the US and in the world. They are compared to the beatles and unsurprisingly they are very similair in a lot of aspects such as "feminized boys are cool". You can check out this website for the details:

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http://pinballking.blogspot.com/2010/07/whats-wrong-with-beatles-alot.html

On the other hand some fans dream to see them looking manly.


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One said that bigbang and stuff are still out there. So that scandal didn't come out for nothing. They are pushing the kpop genre/agenda no matter if people like it or not. Their main goal is the youth. 9-10 years old girls and up. Maybe that's why we can't really understand its impacts right now. That person who wrote this comment maybe has grown out of the kpop world since she/he is older now.

But children are the future in 5-10 years. And especialy girls/women are the most important part of a family or society in general. One of the reasons is that they have babies and raise their child. So a messed up mom can contribute to the spread of more messsed up people etc. They want to change people's ideology about genders.



This people plans for years and years ahead. 10 years ago who could of guessed that a lgbt looking boy band would be filling stadiums in the US and in the world. They are compared to the beatles and unsurprisingly they are very similair in a lot of aspects such as "feminized boys are cool". You can check out this website for the details:

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http://pinballking.blogspot.com/2010/07/whats-wrong-with-beatles-alot.html

On the other hand some fans dream to see them looking manly.


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Wow, V looks 10 times better when not made to look like a girl and with a natural hair color.
 

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This was written by a turkish newspaper warning parents about bt3 and k-pop.
(Sorry if there is any errors and I skiped some parts)

" K-Pop danger" spreading from the Far East.
Far-Eastern music groups, especially K-pop groups which is spreading from South Korea is getting the world's youth under their influence. Experts points out that they cause the 12-18 age group of cultural disinformation and warned families and authorities to take precautions.


In English, "K-Pop" is the abbreviation of "Korean Pop" groups, with the music style they produce they are crossing the borders of their country and reaching a certain age group within the youth in many countries and they are high in demand

To reach the pure "perfection" image, the members are controled from their clothes to their mimics, from their everyday life to their private life, even up to their family relationship. They often undergo a difficult process and after finishing this special training they can step into "professionalism".

Those K-pop groups visuals are made of colorful Mv's, different clothes, dances, looks and lifestyle. Their fan base is following them closely and are looking up to them as role models.


Just like the rest of the world, in Turkey too they are popular amongs the youth and their behaviors are taken as an example. Experts are pointing out that those members image and behaviors are guiding towards "genderlessness" and warns parents to be careful and cautions authorities to take precautions.


"THEY HAVE CREATED A SUB CULTURE"

The rector of Üsküdar University Psychiatry Specialist Dr. Nevzat Tarhan, made a statement to a correspondent in which he said that to understand this trend that has been spreading amongs the youth, we have to have a good understanding of the psychology of the teenage years.


The youth in their teenage years asks questions like "Who am I, where should I turn toward, why?" and are experiencing an identity confusion explains Tarhan. He also adds that the youth within this identity chaos is trying to identify themselves with the identity they have taken an interest with.

During this period, if there isn't any example that will make them happy the youth will seach for a support that they can connect with says professor Dr. Tarhan. He noted that those kind of groups or any kind of computer game will affect them greatly and make them addicted.



K-Pop has three main traits that affect young people, Tarhan said:

"They act like a religious group. They can't fall in love or use drugs. Genderlessness is recommended and they are expecting a strong loyalty from their fans.They also carry out charity gatherings among themselves in a way that many big organizations are not able to do. They are affecting the youth idealistic feelings in this sense of solidarity. They have created a sub culture. And with those traits they have created an ideology of heroes."



"IT CAUSES DIGITAL ADDICTION"

Tarhan says young people's interest in these music groups results in digital addiction and adds:

"This youth which is called the Z generation, live in the digital world. Technology in South Korea is used very well. Technology addiction is very common among young people. South Korea has the highest rate of people addicted to technology. That's the reason why those groups have come out of Korea and spread through the internet. Let's not approach this as a conspiracy scenario, there is a sociological truth here. Adults are not able to understand the language the young generation understands. They speak with a different language. They are the native citizens of the digital world, and older people are immigrant. If we can't understand their language we will lose the youth. The world's future will be affected. This is a serious social problem, we need to see this."



Professor Dr. Tarhan says in families with protective parents that doesn't allow their children to go out and play, but let their children use the internet in their homes are causing them to be friendless. So in return the children turn towards that kind of trends.

Tarhan emphasizes that the key concept here is "family". He says children who can talk about everything with their parents are less exposed to potential risks coming through social media.


"CHILDREN WITH GOOD FAMİLY TIES ARE NOT EXPOSED TO THİS KIND OF SITUATIONS"


Tarhan emphasized the need for teachers to carry out awareness studies about this in schools and said:

"The Ministry of Family, Labor and Social Services needs to prepare a report quickly on this issue, so that families can raise awareness and without making the children panic. They need to ensure that the children review their point of view about what is right and wrong. Children that have good family ties are not exposed to this kind of situations."



"IT'S CREATING SEXUAL CHAOS"

Human Rights and Justice Movement's (IHAK) President Attorney Cihad Gökdemir has being talking about the negative effects that K-pop groups has on the youth in Turkey. He says that in the world popular cultures have been spread at different times and different geographical locations but they should not be seen as independent from political movements in the world.



THEY ARE USED FOR A POLITICAL PURPOSE

Sometimes people make them come out for a political purpose, and sometimes a movement that just come out can be channeled and used for a political purpose, says Gökdemir .

Gökdemir argues that the reason why the imperialist order aims to spread the Eastern culture is to create chaos, people who wants to rule the world are trying to make their dream come true by creating chaos.



A CHAOS WHERE GENDERS ARE GONE

Gokdemir says next to chaos created through economic, social, political and the social media, there is a "sexual chaos" created and he continues:

"Meaning this is a chaos in which the genders have been removed. Those groups who are called K-pop are fully made up of genderless boys and girls.They attract attention with their clothes and the way they behave with each other on stage. They specialy target the 12-18 years old girls group from the conservative community. Because the conservative community says this "Western culture is bad culture but the East has moral values." That's why people say the Eastern culture is closer to our culture and it's easier for them to enforce that culture on us. Families who have focused on rejecting everything coming from the west have no self defense against cultural trends coming from the East. Since they have no defence mechanism, they don't know how to protect their kids."



Gökdemir pointed out that these works seem innocent but they aim to create a new culture by creating sexual chaos.



Digital communication specialist Said Ercan says, Kpop groups like BT3 are wearing Lgbt rainbow colors and symbols in their clothes, "Wearing a lot of make-up, and looking metrosexual they are portraying a " middle gender". They aim to behave equaly to all genders" he said.

Ercan says unconsciously children are affected by those trends, with the "Love Myself" movement they are creating a narcissist character. With mottos like "You are precious, love yourself, don't let people tell you what to do" and children are going to oppose people that intervene in their lives. Legally Turkey could maybe ban access to the group on the internet and parents could be warned. A lot of parents are not aware of this situation" he assessed.



Ercan says that over time the K-pop groups become the "meaning of the lives" of their followers. "There are teenage fans who called the members "my children". They use the members name and pictures, they don't have real accounts. They are living a full integration. With the smallest criticism they gather and start a lynch movement" he said.


Ercan argues that the K-Pop trend is to end gender and religion project. "This project is to prepare and neutralize the Z generation, in other words it's a robotisation of people project. A cultural imperialism is imposed to the world from South Korea., and these groups are made famous to be taken as role models" he added.




https://www.sabah.com.tr/galeri/dunya/uzak-dogudan-yayilan-k-pop-tehlikesi/18
 
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This was written by a turkish newspaper warning parents about bt3 and k-pop.
(Sorry if there is any errors and I skiped some parts)

" K-Pop danger" spreading from the Far East.
Far-Eastern music groups, especially K-pop groups which is spreading from South Korea is getting the world's youth under their influence. Experts points out that they cause the 12-18 age group of cultural disinformation and warned families and authorities to take precautions.


In English, "K-Pop" is the abbreviation of "Korean Pop" groups, with the music style they produce they are crossing the borders of their country and reaching a certain age group within the youth in many countries and they are high in demand

To reach the pure "perfection" image, the members are controled from their clothes to their mimics, from their everyday life to their private life, even up to their family relationship. They often undergo a difficult process and after finishing this special training they can step into "professionalism".

Those K-pop groups visuals are made of colorful Mv's, different clothes, dances, looks and lifestyle. Their fan base is following them closely and are looking up to them as role models.


Just like the rest of the world, in Turkey too they are popular amongs the youth and their behaviors are taken as an example. Experts are pointing out that those members image and behaviors are guiding towards "genderlessness" and warns parents to be careful and cautions authorities to take precautions.


"THEY HAVE CREATED A SUB CULTURE"

The rector of Üsküdar University Psychiatry Specialist Dr. Nevzat Tarhan, made a statement to a correspondent in which he said that to understand this trend that has been spreading amongs the youth, we have to have a good understanding of the psychology of the teenage years.


The youth in their teenage years asks questions like "Who am I, where should I turn toward, why?" and are experiencing an identity confusion explains Tarhan. He also adds that the youth within this identity chaos is trying to identify themselves with the identity they have taken an interest with.

During this period, if there isn't any example that will make them happy the youth will seach for a support that they can connect with says professor Dr. Tarhan. He noted that those kind of groups or any kind of computer game will affect them greatly and make them addicted.



K-Pop has three main traits that affect young people, Tarhan said:

"They act like a religious group. They can't fall in love or use drugs. Genderlessness is recommended and they are expecting a strong loyalty from their fans.They also carry out charity gatherings among themselves in a way that many big organizations are not able to do. They are affecting the youth idealistic feelings in this sense of solidarity. They have created a sub culture. And with those traits they have created an ideology of heroes."



"IT CAUSES DIGITAL ADDICTION"

Tarhan says young people's interest in these music groups results in digital addiction and adds:

"This youth which is called the Z generation, live in the digital world. Technology in South Korea is used very well. Technology addiction is very common among young people. South Korea has the highest rate of people addicted to technology. That's the reason why those groups have come out of Korea and spread through the internet. Let's not approach this as a conspiracy scenario, there is a sociological truth here. Adults are not able to understand the language the young generation understands. They speak with a different language. They are the native citizens of the digital world, and older people are immigrant. If we can't understand their language we will lose the youth. The world's future will be affected. This is a serious social problem, we need to see this."



Professor Dr. Tarhan says in families with protective parents that doesn't allow their children to go out and play, but let their children use the internet in their homes are causing them to be friendless. So in return the children turn towards that kind of trends.

Tarhan emphasizes that the key concept here is "family". He says children who can talk about everything with their parents are less exposed to potential risks coming through social media.


"CHILDREN WITH GOOD FAMİLY TIES ARE NOT EXPOSED TO THİS KIND OF SITUATIONS"


Tarhan emphasized the need for teachers to carry out awareness studies about this in schools and said:

"The Ministry of Family, Labor and Social Services needs to prepare a report quickly on this issue, so that families can raise awareness and without making the children panic. They need to ensure that the children review their point of view about what is right and wrong. Children that have good family ties are not exposed to this kind of situations."



"IT'S CREATING SEXUAL CHAOS"

Human Rights and Justice Movement's (IHAK) President Attorney Cihad Gökdemir has being talking about the negative effects that K-pop groups has on the youth in Turkey. He says that in the world popular cultures have been spread at different times and different geographical locations but they should not be seen as independent from political movements in the world.



THEY ARE USED FOR A POLITICAL PURPOSE

Sometimes people make them come out for a political purpose, and sometimes a movement that just come out can be channeled and used for a political purpose, says Gökdemir .

Gökdemir argues that the reason why the imperialist order aims to spread the Eastern culture is to create chaos, people who wants to rule the world are trying to make their dream come true by creating chaos.



A CHAOS WHERE GENDERS ARE GONE

Gokdemir says next to chaos created through economic, social, political and the social media, there is a "sexual chaos" created and he continues:

"Meaning this is a chaos in which the genders have been removed. Those groups who are called K-pop are fully made up of genderless boys and girls.They attract attention with their clothes and the way they behave with each other on stage. They specialy target the 12-18 years old girls group from the conservative community. Because the conservative community says this "Western culture is bad culture but the East has moral values." That's why people say the Eastern culture is closer to our culture and it's easier for them to enforce that culture on us. Families who have focused on rejecting everything coming from the west have no self defense against cultural trends coming from the East. Since they have no defence mechanism, they don't know how to protect their kids."



Gökdemir pointed out that these works seem innocent but they aim to create a new culture by creating sexual chaos.



Digital communication specialist Said Ercan says, Kpop groups like BT3 are wearing Lgbt rainbow colors and symbols in their clothes, "Wearing a lot of make-up, and looking metrosexual they are portraying a " middle gender". They aim to behave equaly to all genders" he said.

Ercan says unconsciously children are affected by those trends, with the "Love Myself" movement they are creating a narcissist character. With mottos like "You are precious, love yourself, don't let people tell you what to do" and children are going to oppose people that intervene in their lives. Legally Turkey could maybe ban access to the group on the internet and parents could be warned. A lot of parents are not aware of this situation" he assessed.



Ercan says that over time the K-pop groups become the "meaning of the lives" of their followers. "There are teenage fans who called the members "my children". They use the members name and pictures, they don't have real accounts. They are living a full integration. With the smallest criticism they gather and start a lynch movement" he said.


Ercan argues that the K-Pop trend is to end gender and religion project. "This project is to prepare and neutralize the Z generation, in other words it's a robotisation of people project. A cultural imperialism is imposed to the world from South Korea., and these groups are made famous to be taken as role models" he added.




https://www.sabah.com.tr/galeri/dunya/uzak-dogudan-yayilan-k-pop-tehlikesi/18
Did they really say ban access to the group! Omg that would be amazing. I know all fans would be depressed but time will take over and they will forget. More muslim country should do that. Especially saudia arabia, they have so many fans there
 

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Did they really say ban access to the group! Omg that would be amazing. I know all fans would be depressed but time will take over and they will forget. More muslim country should do that. Especially saudia arabia, they have so many fans there
He just suggested it and the fans went crazy. So no it's not banned and I don't think they ever will do it. Unless somebody kills themselves for bt3. I heard that XO is coming here in august for a concert. Right now the issue we have here is with the "blue whale" game which makes children and even university students commit suicide.

When their latest mv came out I saw the comment section was full of fans writting in arabic. So I feel like arab speaking countries are full into kpop. No country is excluded from this trend. I never heard any country leader saying that this stuff is bad and we should ban them. I think people are waiting for this trend to die down.
 
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I called their comeback to be more like lady gaga's artpop album.. with the avant-garde,gender bending theme... and those concept photoshoots with them posing as dressing up,putting ear-rings and other sorts is already in line with that. Also,it doesn't matter whether the songs are any good.Because,found that the algorithms are already written and system is already rigged and in place.They really are relying on the army.. the bot army. It is so that,besides inflating the views,it is written in such a way that the bots will barge the comment section with positive comments and will literally go after those who post otherwise,which will later be emulated by human army.A few companies have been hired for this specific purpose.And the awards are already fixed with money and other favours.(skull and bones and some neo-nazi groups).

Yt and other social media are a part of agenda and mainly works to keep people hooked to systems,while write algorithms to keep feeding them what 'they' want them to see.about the source for the bots,well,chanced upon this blind item about johnny depp hiring bots for similar work.. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/03/blind-items-revealed-6_24.html
then, did some research and spoke to some in this business, and they confirmed that this is already done..the system is fixed.And in a massive scale, especially because, like someone posted in the thread a long time ago, this bighit company boss and the group are in more than one society, with links going too deep (besides skull and bones,which they showed through a skull in the trailer,they are also related to neo-nazi white power groups from europe and southern us which they show through 3 finger hand sign,14,88 numbers). Got to give credit to the boss for the extensive networking. But, their bluff will be called out. Soon.

Yes.Those comments could be bots.It is AI everywhere.These bots even have profile pics,when looked at carefully,look like very bad pixellated pics.. these are created by AI software. Once the code is written and fed into the system, AI morphs and adopts itself with the changing patterns and behaviours.
For example,there was a cryptocoin recently with testimonials on its website. When some web researchers investigated the website,it turned out that it is created by bots. Even those testimonials were found to be created by bots to learn human choices.
http://genecoin.me/ .. scroll down that link and look at pics of the testimonials. You will know what I mean.

Note: I am quoting a person not part of the vg .They don't want to post here for security purposes.
Wow, this is so interesting!!
But how can they be neo nazi? From what I know it is an organization for saving arian race and against black, latino, any melanin people and I guess asians too..(?) So how can they belong to it? Plus their fanbase has A LOT of black girls, I think even more than white
 
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I know guys it is bts thread but i'm interested how blackponk became so big? They don't show even half of sybolysm that othe girllgroups or beteeas show. The rarely do 'ok' sign or any hand gestures, don't have billions eye photos and I don't see much witchcraft in their mvs while much less successful grops have it a lot. Why they are almost as popular as beteeass?
 

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Some of the members are suffering from injuries according to Kfans. I don't know the extent of their injuries but TH specifically is hurt, Hope voice is hoarse, and JK hit his chin. The injuries are coming from the choreo for Dionysus.

Notice JK hits his chin when he falls and TH and YG (on the ends of the formation) are both squatting during this part to cover that TH is hurt.


The dance was created by a duo and one of them is 18:

 

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Some of the members are suffering from injuries according to Kfans. I don't know the extent of their injuries but TH specifically is hurt, Hope voice is hoarse, and JK hit his chin. The injuries are coming from the choreo for Dionysus.

Notice JK hits his chin when he falls and TH and YG (on the ends of the formation) are both squatting during this part to cover that TH is hurt.


The dance was created by a duo and one of them is 18:

Ooof that must have hurt so bad the chin part.. The tremors of pain reach upto the top of the skull if the chin gets hurt.. He's young and handled it well at that time.. But the later consequences can be bad of such injuries
And learning from an 18yr old when they themselves are in their mid twenties? They should have stayed with their usual choreographer.. Age matters in everything.. They aren't teenagers anymore right
And during this particular step jin and j00n are highly favoured as they don't have to do those drops and laying downs.. That move can really tear up some tendons or muscles in the legs.. I feel a bit sad for Suga here
 

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Ooof that must have hurt so bad the chin part.. The tremors of pain reach upto the top of the skull if the chin gets hurt.. He's young and handled it well at that time.. But the later consequences can be bad of such injuries
And learning from an 18yr old when they themselves are in their mid twenties? They should have stayed with their usual choreographer.. Age matters in everything.. They aren't teenagers anymore right
And during this particular step jin and j00n are highly favoured as they don't have to do those drops and laying downs.. That move can really tear up some tendons or muscles in the legs.. I feel a bit sad for Suga here
In the MNet comeback special, you can see YG was slightly hesitant doing this move. Guess that could be a good thing given that it is somewhat dangerous. You see what happened to JK. And I'm willing to bet it is also how TH injured himself.

I just keep waiting on the day when they crash from the top. They're already looking burned out from their hectic schedule and such elaborate moves in their dances. I'm just waiting to see how it will all end. They will either have an embarrassing moment or a scandal, right?
 

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A scandal is already in preparation.. It won't necessary be with haalsy but can be with anyone else.. But this is just the beginning.. B1gh1t used that hashtag officially our girl while knowing they are receiving backlash with this collab from some fans.. And how haalsy just posted the video where j1min was playing around with the female staff just to show her handshake with j00n.. These are planned things i guess and their injuries are most likely covered by the fans themselves.. I didn't see a single fan on my twitter timeline post about the chin injury until i searched it myself after finding it out here

I think he is ok.

 
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