The Glamorization and Sugar-Coating of Prostitution

[Colonel Valerio]

I used to be in favor of legalizing prostitution, as a way to keep those involved safe. I thought that keeping it underground only makes it more dangerous on them. However after looking into it, it appears as if its just legalized abuse.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-whoredom-of-the-left/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chris-hedges-and-rachel-moran-discuss-the-reality-of-prostitution/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/amnesty-international-protecting-the-human-rights-of-johns-pimps-and-human-traffickers/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/prostitution-being-raped-for-a-living/

So it seems that legalization doesn't protect anyone and furthers trafficking and in fact legitimizes it.

There is an agenda of glamorizing it as seen in movies like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman

and shows like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girlfriend_Experience_(TV_series)

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Client_List_(TV_series)

So as late capitalism continues and economic conditions further decline it does appear as if there is a push to glamorize prostitution and present this as viable economic alternative.

What is even worse than the glamorization of High-End escorting is the push to call prostitution by another name, this is known as "Sugaring".

Here is a vanity fair article promoting the practice

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/07/welcome-to-the-new-prostitution-economy

Here's a viral Instagram account from a woman who "mentors" young women on how to exploit themselves

https://www.instagram.com/theheauxmentor/


The most sickening thing about this is it convinces women that this is empowering. Its even worse than regular prostitution because most people who do it already have the necessities of life, are in school etc, and are in no way doing this out of desperation. They do it to live lavishly and its a sign of societal decline that comes with capitalism's focus on materialism.

Here is an article countering it

https://cseinstitute.org/dangers-sugar-coating-prostitution-response-vanity-fair/


So it seems to me there is an agenda here for sure. Instead of worrying about LGBT people fighting for their rights and viewing it as a sign of societal decay, maybe you should be more worried about your daughter exploiting herself, while calling it empowerment, to get a pair of Louboutins.

 

[elsbet]

If you've seen the light on this topic (and you're absolutely right, btw), then it is only a matter of time before you see right through the other charades that sound really good, until you realize they are also just exploiting people.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

If you've seen the light on this topic (and you're absolutely right, btw), then it is only a matter of time before you see right through the other charades that sound really good, until you realize they are also just exploiting people.

Well, I don't want to judge people, and my heart breaks for prostitutes as they are absolutely exploited and often victims of violent crimes that goes unsolved because no one cares. My past position was only because I wanted them to be safe. My change of view on this though comes from a leftist perspective that I don't think you can appreciate. What makes me upset about the sugaring thing is that its an absolute disgrace to women ( some of whom I know and love personally ) that are all but forced into prostitution due to economic circumstance.

All problems ultimately lead to economics and the answer to this and everything else is understanding that the "one true enemy" is Capitalism.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

From an activist as quoted in the first article by Christian Anarchist Chris Hedges

“For women of color, prostitution is an extension of imperialism,” Lee said. “It is sexualized racism. Prostitution is built on the social power disparities of race and color. Women of color are disproportionately exploited through prostitution. This racism is not acknowledged by those in First World countries, including the left. Sexualized racism renders us invisible and irrelevant. It makes it impossible for us to be considered human.”​

 

[elsbet]

My change of view on this though comes from a leftist perspective that I don't think you can appreciate.

Well... no offense, but that's kind of a pompous attitude that is probably supported by stereotype-- not a working knowledge of my opinions and beliefs. If you've read my posts (skimming doesn't count), then you would already know I believe most of these 'social acceptance' movements are created, not to support society's underdogs, but to shield the people who made them that way.

All problems ultimately lead to economics and the answer to this and everything else is understanding that the "one true enemy" is Capitalism.

Interestingly, GREED and its bff, lust for Power, exist independent of economics. It's so much bigger than that. Capitalism, in all its currently perverted forms, is just a vehicle to carry those greater evils.

And yes, prostitution debases all women (and men) who are forced into the profession.

Spoiler

 

[2samuel1427]

I used to be in favor of legalizing prostitution, as a way to keep those involved safe. I thought that keeping it underground only makes it more dangerous on them. However after looking into it, it appears as if its just legalized abuse.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-whoredom-of-the-left/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chris-hedges-and-rachel-moran-discuss-the-reality-of-prostitution/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/amnesty-international-protecting-the-human-rights-of-johns-pimps-and-human-traffickers/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/prostitution-being-raped-for-a-living/

So it seems that legalization doesn't protect anyone and furthers trafficking and in fact legitimizes it.

There is an agenda of glamorizing it as seen in movies like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman

and shows like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girlfriend_Experience_(TV_series)

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Client_List_(TV_series)

So as late capitalism continues and economic conditions further decline it does appear as if there is a push to glamorize prostitution and present this as viable economic alternative.

What is even worse than the glamorization of High-End escorting is the push to call prostitution by another name, this is known as "Sugaring".

Here is a vanity fair article promoting the practice

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/07/welcome-to-the-new-prostitution-economy

Here's a viral Instagram account from a woman who "mentors" young women on how to exploit themselves

https://www.instagram.com/theheauxmentor/


The most sickening thing about this is it convinces women that this is empowering. Its even worse than regular prostitution because most people who do it already have the necessities of life, are in school etc, and are in no way doing this out of desperation. They do it to live lavishly and its a sign of societal decline that comes with capitalism's focus on materialism.

Here is an article countering it

https://cseinstitute.org/dangers-sugar-coating-prostitution-response-vanity-fair/


So it seems to me there is an agenda here for sure. Instead of worrying about LGBT people fighting for their rights and viewing it as a sign of societal decay, maybe you should be more worried about your daughter exploiting herself, while calling it empowerment, to get a pair of Louboutins.

I have a lot of thoughts on this and I'll probably add in later but I just want to say social media and namely IG has a huge part to play in this. Why do woman put some much effort into their appearance and pics? Because more and more its becoming a way advertisement and woman are selling themselves to the highest bidder in their DMs. It doesn't have to be legal at this point. You have access to millions of people at your finger tips atleast a few of them are going to be attracted to you with some money.

Have you heard about what the IG models are doing in Dubai? They are being solicited by billionaires to fly out to meet them so they can have sex but its being reported it gets way darker than that. These men are known for having fetishes for pee, poop, and requesting the girls to do things with their camels and other animals. I heard one report of a girl who went thru with it, she said she got pooped and peed on, had sex with young boys to "make them men", and even did stuff with fish. And what made it worth it for her was the fact that she could retire at 24. Like I know it's hard out here, trust me I'm broke, but DAMN!! IS IT THAT SERIOUS. To lose all self respect and dignity for money. It's just crazy the lows people will go to for a check, I mean p***philia, REALLY? I really couldn't live with myself after that.

So yeah, I think IG models are playing a huge part in "sugaring" prostitution. They're usually beautiful and ppl look up to them for that alone, but then you always see them in the newest most expensive clothes, in front of expensive cars, in the most picturesque exotic places. But did you ever stop to think how to they actually acquire these things, who are they with, where are they traveling to and why and how can they afford it, what do they actually do other than be attractive? Everyone wants their lifestyle but they have no idea what it really takes to get it.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

My change of view on this though comes from a leftist perspective that I don't think you can appreciate.

Well... no offense, but that's kind of a pompous attitude that is probably supported by stereotype-- not a working knowledge of my opinions and beliefs. If you've read my posts (skimming doesn't count), then you would already know I believe most of these 'social acceptance' movements are created, not to support society's underdogs, but to shield the people who made them that way.

All problems ultimately lead to economics and the answer to this and everything else is understanding that the "one true enemy" is Capitalism.

Interestingly, GREED and its bff, lust for Power, exist independent of economics. It's so much bigger than that. Capitalism, in all its currently perverted forms, is just a vehicle to carry those greater evils.

And yes, prostitution debases all women (and men) who are forced into the profession.

Spoiler

I will be at odds with some comrades over this. I made this post because I was tired of hearing about how there is an agenda to LGBT movement, while this gets ignored.


Capitalism couldn’t exist without greed/power it’s what the system is about. Prostitution is an economic issue and a UBI would be a great place to start but the eventual destruction of capitalism and the state has to be the end goal.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I have a lot of thoughts on this and I'll probably add in later but I just want to say social media and namely IG has a huge part to play in this. Why do woman put some much effort into their appearance and pics? Because more and more its becoming a way advertisement and woman are selling themselves to the highest bidder in their DMs. It doesn't have to be legal at this point. You have access to millions of people at your finger tips atleast a few of them are going to be attracted to you with some money.

Have you heard about what the IG models are doing in Dubai? They are being solicited by billionaires to fly out to meet them so they can have sex but its being reported it gets way darker than that. These men are known for having fetishes for pee, poop, and requesting the girls to do things with their camels and other animals. I heard one report of a girl who went thru with it, she said she got pooped and peed on, had sex with young boys to "make them men", and even did stuff with fish. And what made it worth it for her was the fact that she could retire at 24. Like I know it's hard out here, trust me I'm broke, but DAMN!! IS IT THAT SERIOUS. To lose all self respect and dignity for money. It's just crazy the lows people will go to for a check, I mean p***philia, REALLY? I really couldn't live with myself after that.

So yeah, I think IG models are playing a huge part in "sugaring" prostitution. They're usually beautiful and ppl look up to them for that alone, but then you always see them in the newest most expensive clothes, in front of expensive cars, in the most picturesque exotic places. But did you ever stop to think how to they actually acquire these things, who are they with, where are they traveling to and why and how can they afford it, what do they actually do other than be attractive? Everyone wants their lifestyle but they have no idea what it really takes to get it.

That is absolutely nuts. IG is probably the single biggest promoter of sugaring.

This level of materialism is very sad. People think possessions will fill the void inside of them. The emptiness of Capitalism on full display.

 

[elsbet]

... and requesting the girls to do things with their camels...

*shudder*

I will be at odds with some comrades over this. I made this post because I was tired of hearing about how there is an agenda to LGBT movement, while this gets ignored.

Just a question: if this Capitalist State is the Enemy, then wouldn't it stand to reason that its media is equally and willfully corrupt? You've illustrated the fact well in the OP.

Capitalism couldn’t exist without greed/power it’s what the system is about. Prostitution is an economic issue and a UBI would be a great place to start but the eventual destruction of capitalism and the state has to be the end goal.

Then, what? Greed / lust for Power will still exist. Unfortunately.

The heck is a UBI?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

*shudder*


Just a question: if this Capitalist State is the Enemy, then wouldn't it stand to reason that its media is equally and willfully corrupt? You've illustrated the fact well in the OP.



Then, what? Greed / lust for Power will still exist. Unfortunately.

The heck is a UBI?

I’ve never said that the media wasn’t corrupt. It is. I just the see the corruption as a reflection of corporate control. Advertising is psychological warfare and literally has its origins in propaganda techniques.

Then what? Fully automated luxury space communism.

Universal Basic Income

 

[elsbet]

I’ve never said that the media wasn’t corrupt. It is. I just the see the corruption as a reflection of corporate control. Advertising is psychological warfare and literally has its origins in propaganda techniques.

You're still buying it, though.

Then what? Fully automated luxury space communism.

Nice thought, but again-- what will you do with the Greed and the power hungry nature of people that hasn't been snuffed out? A reprise of the killing fields?

Universal Basic Income

Right... thanks.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

You're still buying it, though.


Nice thought, but again-- what will you do with the Greed and the power hungry nature of people that hasn't been snuffed out? A reprise of the killing fields?


Right... thanks.

What am I buying into? I could just as easily say you’re the one buying into it.

Anarchism takes care of the authority problem. If there is no power there can’t be anyone to seek it or have it.

You’re welcome

 

[elsbet]

What am I buying into? I could just as easily say you’re the one buying into it.

You could but it wouldn't be accurate. Its *all* centered on exploitation of the plebes.

Anarchism takes care of the authority problem. If there is no power there can’t be anyone to seek it or have it.

I agree.

Communism, however, is a different animal. Soo... which is it?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

You could but it wouldn't be accurate. Its *all* centered on exploitation of the plebes.



I agree.

Communism, however, is a different animal. Soo... which is it?

Again what do I buy into that is expoilting people?

Anarcho-Communism, broadly applying that term

 

[TempestOfTempo]

*shudder*


Just a question: if this Capitalist State is the Enemy, then wouldn't it stand to reason that its media is equally and willfully corrupt? You've illustrated the fact well in the OP.



Then, what? Greed / lust for Power will still exist. Unfortunately.

The heck is a UBI?

I have considered the push for legalization of prostitution to be the commodification of sexual abuse for a long time. I was raised in a basically entirely black area and pimps were, to a large degree, seen as role models. Eventually I grew to reject that once I became more aware of the games being played on us. Now I see this, the promotion of Slutwalks and etc. for exactly what they are..... the attempt to normalize behavior that was previously forbidden in public for good reason.

 

[2samuel1427]

I have considered the push for legalization of prostitution to be the commodification of sexual abuse for a long time. I was raised in a basically entirely black area and pimps were, to a large degree, seen as role models. Eventually I grew to reject that once I became more aware of the games being played on us. Now I see this, the promotion of Slutwalks and etc. for exactly what they are..... the attempt to normalize behavior that was previously forbidden in public for good reason.

So true and I feel the promotion of ppl like amber rose and cardi b have a lot to do with it as well. There was a time when the public would have never excepted them as role models.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

So true and I feel the promotion of ppl like amber rose and cardi b have a lot to do with it as well. There was a time when the public would have never excepted them as role models.

Very True. Imo it really started in the hood.... the Pimp/Ho lifestyle became accepted because of the compromised situation Black America faces, then enshrined into the culture via media enforcement and saturation. Once hip-hop/rap became the dominant medium of society (after it was co-opted and reconfigured by Deep State operatives), these themes which would have once been considered shocking are now promoted as "empowering"....... I guess nothing says "self-love" to that crowd like parading around in stripper gear, random sexual encounters and STD's & abortion for the aftermath. A sad state of affairs indeed.

 

[Sunshine]

I will be at odds with some comrades over this. I made this post because I was tired of hearing about how there is an agenda to LGBT movement, while this gets ignored.


Capitalism couldn’t exist without greed/power it’s what the system is about. Prostitution is an economic issue and a UBI would be a great place to start but the eventual destruction of capitalism and the state has to be the end goal.

Dude, how on earth can you blame a modern economic system for the societal ailment that is prostitution? It has literally been around for our entire history, indeed, probably even before what we would call "history." They don't call it "the oldest profession" for no reason. It is/was alive and well in every society, whether they have a capitalist economic system, a communist one, a monarchy, a theocracy, or a free-for-all like the ancient Greeks.

The simple truth is, the most valuable commodity women have, to a majority of men, is not their minds, hearts or human potential, but the one thing that the men don't have: vaginas.

If women, or men for that matter, feel the necessity to commodify their own bodies for financial gain, it's their own decision, and there's little anyone else can do about it, despite the laws, mores or wishes of society at large. It may be a sh***y decision, but like all else in life, free will holds sway.

The problem happens when they are Forced into doing so. That is and should be illegal, because it is, in its essence, a form of slavery. The glamorization of the "pimp/ho" lifestyle in the US is, again, not to be blamed on capitalism, but on the distinct lack of value women hold in the hip-hop subculture that has infiltrated every part of our entertainment and into society in general. This is the same subculture that espouses violence, drug use and dealing, over-the-top displays of wealth, often at the expense of one's moral compass, and devalues education, marriage and family structure (Baby-daddies never used to be an acceptable thing until the 90's) and a truly positive work ethic. This sh*t plays right into the illuminati's plan to undermine social norms and stability.

Kidnapping, human trafficking and sex-slavery have been out-of-control for decades in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. (Even the UN Peacekeeping troops got busted for frequenting sex-slave dens. And don't get me started on those ridiculously hypocritical Muslim millionaires who shop for chicks on the web like they're toys to add to their collection, while their wives and sisters can't show their face or drive a frigging car.)

Is it any wonder, with our porous borders, that this is making inroads into the US? We got Russians, Kazhaks,Turks, Algerians, Somalis, and yes, Mexicans and Central Americans making recent headlines for being arrested for running trafficking rings, and probably thousands more who likely will never be arrested. Frankly, I would be more surprised if it Wasn't one of the reasons the Obama admin was so keen on keeping things all loosey-goosey on the borders. (pun intended) Because the PTB know it's another easy (for them) way to create a crisis, foment division and spread their favorite brand of misery (debasement) around at a pace and volume that We the People can hardly wrap our heads around, much less fight in an organized and effective fashion.

Incidentally, I have to wonder if I'm wasting my breath trying to give you some historical/global perspective. You are the guy who would rather drool over frog-girl hopping around in her short skirt on tv than do anything to help her. She's just as much of a prostitute as anyone. More, even, since she sold not only her body, but her soul.

 

[Maes17]

I always feel the economic circumstances is a last resort to keep food on the table.

I knew a girl in college who low keyed escort service to pay for not just tuition, but a place to stay and to buy her son gifts and take him out on weekends.

She changed my outlook on prostitution. In that women are in control of their body.


But yes within this type of service there is dangers, exploitation etc.

 

[Maes17]

Dude, how on earth can you blame a modern economic system for the societal ailment that is prostitution? It has literally been around for our entire history, indeed, probably even before what we would call "history." They don't call it "the oldest profession" for no reason. It is/was alive and well in every society, whether they have a capitalist economic system, a communist one, a monarchy, a theocracy, or a free-for-all like the ancient Greeks.

The simple truth is, the most valuable commodity women have, to a majority of men, is not their minds, hearts or human potential, but the one thing that the men don't have: vaginas.

If women, or men for that matter, feel the necessity to commodify their own bodies for financial gain, it's their own decision, and there's little anyone else can do about it, despite the laws, mores or wishes of society at large. It may be a sh***y decision, but like all else in life, free will holds sway.

The problem happens when they are Forced into doing so. That is and should be illegal, because it is, in its essence, a form of slavery. The glamorization of the "pimp/ho" lifestyle in the US is, again, not to be blamed on capitalism, but on the distinct lack of value women hold in the hip-hop subculture that has infiltrated every part of our entertainment and into society in general. This is the same subculture that espouses violence, drug use and dealing, over-the-top displays of wealth, often at the expense of one's moral compass, and devalues education, marriage and family structure (Baby-daddies never used to be an acceptable thing until the 90's) and a truly positive work ethic. This sh*t plays right into the illuminati's plan to undermine social norms and stability.

Kidnapping, human trafficking and sex-slavery have been out-of-control for decades in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. (Even the UN Peacekeeping troops got busted for frequenting sex-slave dens. And don't get me started on those ridiculously hypocritical Muslim millionaires who shop for chicks on the web like they're toys to add to their collection, while their wives and sisters can't show their face or drive a frigging car.)

Is it any wonder, with our porous borders, that this is making inroads into the US? We got Russians, Kazhaks,Turks, Algerians, Somalis, and yes, Mexicans and Central Americans making recent headlines for being arrested for running trafficking rings, and probably thousands more who likely will never be arrested. Frankly, I would be more surprised if it Wasn't one of the reasons the Obama admin was so keen on keeping things all loosey-goosey on the borders. (pun intended) Because the PTB know it's another easy (for them) way to create a crisis, foment division and spread their favorite brand of misery (debasement) around at a pace and volume that We the People can hardly wrap our heads around, much less fight in an organized and effective fashion.

Incidentally, I have to wonder if I'm wasting my breath trying to give you some historical/global perspective. You are the guy who would rather drool over frog-girl hopping around in her short skirt on tv than do anything to help her. She's just as much of a prostitute as anyone. More, even, since she sold not only her body, but her soul.

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