"Mike Pence - US should do what Israel wants"

[elsbet]

I never said they were “retarded” I actually have a lot of understanding for ancient peoples, but I do believe that the God of the Old Testament has its origins in a Canaanite Volcano God.

Its implied.

I have no problem believing the Canaanites had some strange gods... but even those gods communicated with them. They were, I believe, intelligent beings-- not natural occurrences that the people mistook for the gods. That applies to all the ancients, imo.

And I dont believe the Jews weren't smart enough to know it was just a Volcano. It would have to have been a magic, talking volcano that dispensed manna, and remained active daily for 40 years. Doesn't add up unless there was a mass delusion that, again.. lasted 40 years. No offense, I just think it's too far fetched (and tbh, insulting).

 

[Orwell's mentor]

What a brilliant question.

Can I offer an answer? Well what group have either infiltrated, subverted or even created all positions of power?....

Freemasons and all other associated cults.

You’re pretty much reiterating a comment posted on a TeamWakeUp video:

“Those that control the Fed are trying to make the U.N. a socialist world government through the CO2 SCAM and Agenda 21. The Federal Reserve was set up by the Rothschild’s and their cronies. The Rothschild Family however has the official title: "Guardians of the Vatican Treasury", it’s even in the Encyclopedia Judaica. And dynasty founder Mayer Amschel Rothschild was already a member of the VATICAN Knights of Malta. So yes the Rothschild’s have a degree of power, but they SERVE the 1500 year-old Vatican system. Once again: all (NWO) roads lead to the ANTICHRIST Papacy in Rome. And yes this current system will fail and the Papacy will play the role of "Savior": offering the Marxist One World System and One World New Age religion as a "solution". While unknown to many the Papacy, the JESUITS, Freemasonry and other secret societies created much of the problems in the first place. Please do your own research and get born again, God bless.” (source)​

It appears to also substantiate information I found out a while ago and posted here.

 

[Awoken2]

You’re pretty much reiterating a comment posted on a TeamWakeUp video:

“Those that control the Fed are trying to make the U.N. a socialist world government through the CO2 SCAM and Agenda 21. The Federal Reserve was set up by the Rothschild’s and their cronies. The Rothschild Family however has the official title: "Guardians of the Vatican Treasury", it’s even in the Encyclopedia Judaica. And dynasty founder Mayer Amschel Rothschild was already a member of the VATICAN Knights of Malta. So yes the Rothschild’s have a degree of power, but they SERVE the 1500 year-old Vatican system. Once again: all (NWO) roads lead to the ANTICHRIST Papacy in Rome. And yes this current system will fail and the Papacy will play the role of "Savior": offering the Marxist One World System and One World New Age religion as a "solution". While unknown to many the Papacy, the JESUITS, Freemasonry and other secret societies created much of the problems in the first place. Please do your own research and get born again, God bless.” (source)​

It appears to also substantiate information I found out a while ago and posted here.

I was unaware of Team Wake Ups existence but have come to my conclusions by noticing recurring patterns within the mainstream music industry which is totally owned by TPTB.

The Freemasons greatest illusion is to convince the world they have got nothing to do with anything underhanded.

Let me give you a really good example of this. Spot the hidden hand in this ohhh so overtly Masonic music video. It has the lot, mind control, symbology etc

 

[Orwell's mentor]

I was unaware of Team Wake Ups existence but have come to my conclusions by noticing recurring patterns within the mainstream music industry which is totally owned by TPTB.

The Freemasons greatest illusion is to convince the world they have got nothing to do with anything underhanded.

Let me give you a really good example of this. Spot the hidden hand in this ohhh so overtly Masinic music video. It has the lot, mind control, symbology etc

Noooo! Not “Owner of a Lonely Heart”! This song brings me back to listening to the Casey Kasem countdown on my parents’ radio in their room… winter of ‘83/84, I think. Funny to see the symbolism in it now, but I remember when this video came out, my friend said it was about a guy who was on drugs. I accepted their analysis and went on my merry way to enjoy the song and eventually buy the album, lol!

 

[Helioform]

You might consider making an exception in this case. It's quite a commentary, by way of grotesque parody, on the American political scene and the very real controversy which attended Chuck Hagel's nomination.

Oh I am aware of their political commentaries, just not interested in them.

Actually, when I look globally, at least at the European far right, the Protocols seem somewhat passé -like last year's newspaper. They have been, in the conspiratorial mind, sort of replaced by the so called Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, which is thought to be backed by George Soros and others.

You may be right. The info I got dated from the early 2000s mostly. But just an example of the way their media somewhat recently promoted this nonsense:

"Relevance Of "Protocols" in Arab World Today

It would perhaps be appropriate to conclude this article with an example of the relevance of the issue of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the Arab world today. An official 10th-grade history textbook published in 2004 by the Palestinian Authority included a chapter on the history of Zionism. The chapter summarized the resolutions of the first Zionist Congress in Basel. After a section in which the book gives a factual presentation of the Congress's main official decisions, it went on to say:

"There are a number of secret decisions issued by the Congress known as 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion', which aim at taking control of the whole world. They were exposed by Sergei Nilus and were translated into Arabic by Muhammad Khalifa Al-Tunisi."[48]

The nature of this text was exposed by Dr. Arnon Groiss on radio program, and this was brought to the attention of the Belgian government, which had financially supported the publication of the book. As a result, the Palestinian Authority published an expurgated edition, from which this passage had been removed.

This episode shows, on the one hand, that this forgery is not only widely disseminated in the Arab world, but is regarded by Arab educators as a historical fact that needs to be taught in school. On the other hand, it demonstrates that exposure and well-directed political action can be effective."

https://www.memri.org/reports/european-plot-arab-stage-protocols-elders-zion-arab-media

They seem to be a demonic -and I don't use the word frequently- document.

They are.

Not bad. It could be presented at the next Oslo Accord meetings. A number of people would probably buy

I doubt it would change much.

 

[Dalit]

Noooo! Not “Owner of a Lonely Heart”! This song brings me back to listening to the Casey Kasem countdown on my parents’ radio in their room… winter of ‘83/84, I think. Funny to see the symbolism in it now, but I remember when this video came out, my friend said it was about a guy who was on drugs. I accepted their analysis and went on my merry way to enjoy the song and eventually buy the album, lol!

I know, right? Love the 80s. So much messed up stuff in those videos went over my head as a kid. No wonder I had nightmares.

There's a boatload of symbolism in this. Count the masonic triangles alone.

 

[Serveto]

https://www.memri.org/reports/european-plot-arab-stage-protocols-elders-zion-arab-media

I am willing to consider what these guys publish, and sometimes watch their videos, but I also keep even dated reports on them, as an informational source, fully in mind ...

"Selective Memri
Brian Whitaker investigates whether the 'independent' media institute that translates the Arabic newspapers is quite what it seems ...

... The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.
Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence ... "
The Guardian​

 

[Awoken2]

Noooo! Not “Owner of a Lonely Heart”! This song brings me back to listening to the Casey Kasem countdown on my parents’ radio in their room… winter of ‘83/84, I think. Funny to see the symbolism in it now, but I remember when this video came out, my friend said it was about a guy who was on drugs. I accepted their analysis and went on my merry way to enjoy the song and eventually buy the album, lol!

I think that's part of the trick though, overlaying subconscious messaging and imagery over really catchy tunes. Even more so today, just look at any Gaga, Beyonce, Pink video and the same methods apply. They are just a lot more direct with it today

 

[Helioform]

I am willing to consider what these guys publish, and sometimes watch their videos, but I also keep even dated reports on them, as an informational source, fully in mind ...

​

"Selective Memri​

Brian Whitaker investigates whether the 'independent' media institute that translates the Arabic newspapers is quite what it seems ...​

​

... The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.​

Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence ... "​

The Guardian​

I see. I do not endorse everything on that Memri website anyway. It was just corroboration of the things I already knew from other sources.

 

[Serveto]

I see. I do not endorse everything on that Memri website anyway. It was just corroboration of the things I already knew from other sources.

I understand. I know that, just as the demonic firestorm known as the Protocols swept Europe in the last century, it is now burning in sections of "Dar-ul-Islam," or the world of Islam. This, to me, is an unimaginable pity, a tragedy, given that, historically, when Jews were being driven out of at least nominally Christian countries, it was often in predominantly Muslim countries, from North Africa to Ottoman Palestine, that they not only sought but also found refuge. Anyway, this has little to do with Mike Pence so I might sit out for awhile. Thank you for responding.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I was unaware of Team Wake Ups existence but have come to my conclusions by noticing recurring patterns within the mainstream music industry which is totally owned by TPTB.

The Freemasons greatest illusion is to convince the world they have got nothing to do with anything underhanded.

Let me give you a really good example of this. Spot the hidden hand in this ohhh so overtly Masonic music video. It has the lot, mind control, symbology etc

Do you think when this imagery started creeping in on these early videos.... that it was intentional from the directors or artists, just blind symbology grabs at something cool.... perhaps a combo of the two or neither at all? Either way, comparing the amount of control recording "artists" have over their products now as opposed to those from the past, its pretty clear that what we now have are pure, agenda and conscious driving projects, not organic artistic expression......

 

[Karlysymon]

I was unaware of Team Wake Ups existence but have come to my conclusions by noticing recurring patterns within the mainstream music industry which is totally owned by TPTB.

The Freemasons greatest illusion is to convince the world they have got nothing to do with anything underhanded.

Let me give you a really good example of this. Spot the hidden hand in this ohhh so overtly Masonic music video. It has the lot, mind control, symbology etc

Very creepy video. I stopped at the 5:10 mark as i got a headache, maybe i'm just unwell. Iam trying to find some background information on the concept of the video and its originator.

I wish though that i could hear @Orwell's mentor scream "Noooo", because i know that feeling.....

 

[Etagloc]

I understand. I know that, just as the demonic firestorm known as the Protocols swept Europe in the last century, it is now burning in sections of "Dar-ul-Islam," or the world of Islam. This, to me, is an unimaginable pity, a tragedy, given that, historically, when Jews were being driven out of at least nominally Christian countries, it was often in predominantly Muslim countries, from North Africa to Ottoman Palestine, that they not only sought but also found refuge. Anyway, this has little to do with Mike Pence so I might sit out for awhile. Thank you for responding.

Is the Godfather a movie that reflects on all Italians? Or is it a movie that reflects on some Italians? Is it not the case that some Italians are involved in the mafia?

In the same way, I say the Protocols reflects some Jews- not all. It is no more anti-Jewish than the Godfather is anti-Italian.

And is the ethnicity of the characters the point of the Godfather or is it the subject matter?

I am not advising people to watch the Godfather but I think any reasonable person should be able to watch the Godfather and understand that it's not about all Italians.

If we say the Protocols is off the table for examination, we should do the same for the Godfather, rap music, "Islamic" terrorism, new reports showing criminals who are minorities, etc. The implications would be absurd.

And it is telling that people can discuss the Godfather, people can discuss ISIS, people can discuss rap music- but let them discuss the Protocols and it's supposedly wrong.

My recommendation for people is- read the Protocols. Don't go off third-party discussion. Read it for yourself.

The Protocols indicts your Rothschild, Soros types- it's not a reflection of all Jews any more than the Godfather is a movie about all Italians.

I was having a discussion with a friend about the Protocols the other night. However, people who know me in real life can attest to how I cared for my Jewish neighbor. I never treated my neighbor any differently for being Jewish. We definitely had some ideological differences but people who know me can attest that I cared for my Jewish neighbor. We got into friendly arguments over ideas but it was never about race. And my friend I was discussing the Protocols with- he is a nice, friendly guy and I seriously doubt he would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish.

The idea that anyone who reads the Protocols would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish is simply not true. The Protocols is a book about the "elite". It is suppressed in order to suppress dissent against the so-called "elite".

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Is the Godfather a movie that reflects on all Italians? Or is it a movie that reflects on some Italians? Is it not the case that some Italians are involved in the mafia?

In the same way, I say the Protocols reflects some Jews- not all. It is no more anti-Jewish than the Godfather is anti-Italian.

And is the ethnicity of the characters the point of the Godfather or is it the subject matter?

I am not advising people to watch the Godfather but I think any reasonable person should be able to watch the Godfather and understand that it's not about all Italians.

If we say the Protocols is off the table for examination, we should do the same for the Godfather, rap music, "Islamic" terrorism, new reports showing criminals who are minorities, etc. The implications would be absurd.

And it is telling that people can discuss the Godfather, people can discuss ISIS, people can discuss rap music- but let them discuss the Protocols and it's supposedly wrong.

My recommendation for people is- read the Protocols. Don't go off third-party discussion. Read it for yourself.

The Protocols indicts your Rothschild, Soros types- it's not a reflection of all Jews any more than the Godfather is a movie about all Italians.

I was having a discussion with a friend about the Protocols the other night. However, people who know me in real life can attest to how I cared for my Jewish neighbor. I never treated my neighbor any differently for being Jewish. We definitely had some ideological differences but people who know me can attest that I cared for my Jewish neighbor. We got into friendly arguments over ideas but it was never about race. And my friend I was discussing the Protocols with- he is a nice, friendly guy and I seriously doubt he would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish.

The idea that anyone who reads the Protocols would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish is simply not true. The Protocols is a book about the "elite". It is suppressed in order to suppress dissent against the so-called "elite".

The Godfather ( or the Sopranos ) is billed as a work of fiction though. That’s a big difference. There’s also a big difference between the mob and secretly plotting to control the whole world. Just so you know The Mob has always been an excuse to discriminate against Italians, the worst case of mob violence in US history was done to Italians in New Orleans on the pretext of a Maf hit.

I was nice to my Jew neighbor so I’m not a raging bigot.

 

[Damien50]

The Godfather ( or the Sopranos ) is billed as a work of fiction though. That’s a big difference. There’s also a big difference between the mob and secretly plotting to control the whole world. Just so you know The Mob has always been an excuse to discriminate against Italians, the worst case of mob violence in US history was done to Italians in New Orleans on the pretext of a Maf hit.

I was nice to my Jew neighbor so I’m not a raging bigot.

To some degree he has a point though. I think it's just semantics to assume we're pointing towards anything but the elite 'Jew'. Plenty of Jews that fell in the same traps as everyone else like Marilyn Monroe and Shia LeBeouf but playing semantics redirects the convo to everyone's raging anti semitism when it's never the case on these forums.

 

[Etagloc]

The Godfather ( or the Sopranos ) is billed as a work of fiction though.

Okay then replace that example with a documentary about the Japanese Yakuza then, if you want. Or replace it with a documentary about actual Italian mafia stuff. And I personally talked to a person from Italy and they themselves told me about the mafia in Italy.

I was nice to my Jew neighbor so I’m not a raging bigot.

Okay well if grasping the fact that some Italians are involved with the mafia and that some Jews are Zionists makes me a "raging bigot," then I'm a "raging bigot".

In fact, I even believe that people in China speak Chinese. I even believe that some people in Britain drink tea. I even believe that some people in New England may eat clam chowder. Such "bigotry"!

 

[Colonel Valerio]

To some degree he has a point though. I think it's just semantics to assume we're pointing towards anything but the elite 'Jew'. Plenty of Jews that fell in the same traps as everyone else like Marilyn Monroe and Shia LeBeouf but playing semantics redirects the convo to everyone's raging anti semitism when it's never the case on these forums.

No he doesn’t have a point. The Mafia was an excuse to discriminate against Italians just like the Bloods and the Crips are an excuse to discriminate against blacks and the Protocols an excuse against Jews.

No this forum has a lot whether it’s admitted or not.

There are a lot of Jews in “elite” positions sure but smaller groups will always represent demographic extremes it’s just statistics. Asians are hugely successful by American standards too. Jews don’t represent a majority of power though or anywhere close. Some of the biggest bankers and business men are regular ol white guys and Asians. All peoples hold positions of power and I want to do something so that nobody but the people has power and that brother involves taking down Capitalism and the State.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Okay then replace that example with a documentary about the Japanese Yakuza then, if you want. Or replace it with a documentary about actual Italian mafia stuff. And I personally talked to a person from Italy and they themselves told me about the mafia in Italy.



Okay well if grasping the fact that some Italians are involved with the mafia and that some Jews are Zionists makes me a "raging bigot," then I'm a "raging bigot".

In fact, I even believe that people in China speak Chinese. I even believe that some people in Britain drink tea. I even believe that some people in New England may eat clam chowder. Such "bigotry"!

Let me spell it out to you. The existence of organized crime which exists in every community on this earth is not the same as circulating a document that has been the justification for pogroms and expulsions and systemic discrimination for centuries and is a proven hoax. That is besides the point that the aforementioned organized crime is often used as an excuse to discriminate against all of the people from which it originates as it was to Italians for decades as highlighted by what went down in NOLA for my people in the 19th century much as crime is used to discriminate against blacks and Hispanics today, so what is your point?


Never mention the words reason or logic on this forum again because you don’t know what the words even mean.

 

[Damien50]

No he doesn’t have a point. The Mafia was an excuse to discriminate against Italians just like the Bloods and the Crips are an excuse to discriminate against blacks and the Protocols an excuse against Jews.

No this forum has a lot whether it’s admitted or not.

There are a lot of Jews in “elite” positions sure but smaller groups will always represent demographic extremes it’s just statistics. Asians are hugely successful by American standards too. Jews don’t represent a majority of power though or anywhere close. Some of the biggest bankers and business men are regular ol white guys and Asians. All peoples hold positions of power and I want to do something so that nobody but the people has power and that brother involves taking down Capitalism and the State.

Come on now! There doesn't need to be a reason to discriminate against the blacks.

I get where your both coming from. I briefly, briefly, looked up anti semitism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

It's like a catch all for any negative feelings towards an individual or group that identifies as Jewish lol. It reads like any criticism of Jews is anti Semitic.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Come on now! There doesn't need to be a reason to discriminate against the blacks.

I get where your both coming from. I briefly, briefly, looked up anti semitism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

It's like a catch all for any negative feelings towards an individual or group that identifies as Jewish lol. It reads like any criticism of Jews is anti Semitic.

No, but it helps and makes it easier to sell as policy. Ever heard of the war on drugs? Look what you do to Jews for being statistically successful is what white racists do to black people with crime statistics and what not. Ironically man a lot of people who push the it’s all da Joos theory also are pushing how violent and dangerous blacks are. I hope you understand that man.

I believe you can criticize Israel and I do, and I believe you can criticize powerful Jews without being anti-Semitic but that doesn’t mean there is not a shit ton of disgusting anti-Semitism. I oppose Zionism because it’s ethno-nationalist but get away from me with protocols and Holocaust denial.

Anyway there is a much bigger human rights catastrophe in its way and that is for my brothers and sisters the Kurds. Will they have anyone speaking for them? I don’t count on it.