The Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Z. T. Jacob

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Copernicanism was pushed as part of an agenda to undermine religion.
Etagloc, since this is your thread, can you kick that Shawna lady out? She's being very annoying and she's continuously posting a photo of a guys mugshot which has no relevance whatsoever.
 

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Etagloc, since this is your thread, can you kick that Shawna lady out?
That’s not how the forum works. You don’t get mod permissions when you create a thread. But what we should all do is report Shawna and her posts because she is breaking forum rules.
 

Z. T. Jacob

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That’s not how the forum works. You don’t get mod permissions when you create a thread. But what we should all do is report Shawna and her posts because she is breaking forum rules.
Ok. I'm new here! Lol. It looks like some of her posts dont show up anymore
 

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Ok. I'm new here! Lol. It looks like some of her posts dont show up anymore
It happens every so often. This person has been banned at least 20 times since the forum opened. Most of us have gone through the highs of lows of this several times now and we have come to ignore her until she is banned again, which she will be.

VC circles round here at least once a day. Although sometimes it has taken up to three painful days for her posts to be removed, but I empathize with you and have been where you are. So I thought I would let you know this.

This will all be erased completely so you can ignore them and carry on, or you are also free to vent about it. Sometimes that helps a little bit too.
 

Z. T. Jacob

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It happens every so often. This person has been banned at least 20 times since the forum opened. Most of us have gone through the highs of lows of this several times now and we have come to ignore her until she is banned again, which she will be.

VC circles round here at least once a day. Although sometimes it has taken up to three painful days for her posts to be removed, but I empathize with you and have been where you are. So I thought I would let you know this.

This will all be erased completely so you can ignore them and carry on, or you are also free to vent about it. Sometimes that helps a little bit too.
Has she always posted that same picture? Honestly, she has to get bored of that.
 

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Has she always posted that same picture? Honestly, she has to get bored of that.
No she has not since the picture literally didn’t exist until Thursday I guess? Amazing how someone in Canada would be aware it exists days before his wife was.. and not until she posted it here. Amazing. Do you have some sort ofconstantly scrolling internet search on me and my family chassidy?
 

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You know, one of the main conditions of issuing the fatwa is that the Scholar issuing it should be "an expert" about the topic he is issuing the fatwa of. And he should issue it only after a lengthy discussion and consensus with majority of other scholars.

-Nobody agrees with whoever youre quoting
-He is NOT an expert in anything science.

That already nullifies that fatwa and he has, in layman terms, pretty much sinned by giving that fatwa.

And fatwas in this case are weak argument anyway. A Saudi imam had given the fatwa against women driving saying that "women who drive can't have kids". Now i don't need to be an expert in biology to know that driving a car has nothing to do with having kids but you know "aN imAm gAvE fAtwA".
You know, one of the main conditions of issuing the fatwa is that the Scholar issuing it should be "an expert" about the topic he is issuing the fatwa of. And he should issue it only after a lengthy discussion and consensus with majority of other scholars.

-Nobody agrees with whoever youre quoting
-He is NOT an expert in anything science.

That already nullifies that fatwa and he has, in layman terms, pretty much sinned by giving that fatwa.

And fatwas in this case are weak argument anyway. A Saudi imam had given the fatwa against women driving saying that "women who drive can't have kids". Now i don't need to be an expert in biology to know that driving a car has nothing to do with having kids but you know "aN imAm gAvE fAtwA".
You don't know who he is?

Okay, if you don't know who he is, you don't know who he is.
 

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The majority of the scholars do not have this opinion.
The Quran teaches that the sun is not stationary.
You actually posted the verse on your Quran thread. #350
These stances are highlighted by memri the Israeli propaganda channel. I see that you are familiar with them.#35
The majority of scholars? I am not sure which scholars are this majority.

There are scholars on both sides as far as I'm aware. However, I believe the correct position is that the sun revolves around the earth.

Also, MEMRI's political stance is irrelevant. I didn't learn about this from the internet.
 

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@manama accept the fact that people are free to have different opinions and question your own belief that others must agree with you and that you are entitled to insult others for thinking differently than you.

Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There are four signs that make someone a pure hypocrite and whoever has them has a characteristic of hypocrisy until he abandons it: when he speaks he lies, when he makes a covenant he is treacherous, when he makes a promise he breaks it, and when he argues he is wicked.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 34, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 58

https://abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2012/04/22/hadith-on-hypocrisy-the-signs-of-hypocrisy-are-false-speech-treachery-breaking-promises-and-evil-argumentation/
 
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The truth stands, regardless of what anyone thinks.
I don't have time these days to look your first video so can you explain with your words why you believe heliocentrism is wrong and geocentrism right?

If it's backed by science, why Johannes Kepler, who have invested his life in that field of science argued for heliocentrism and developped the famous Kepler's law of planetary motion?

You can't say something is wrong because fatwa, it's extremely dishonest.
 

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This whole forum can "hate" on me. Nevertheless, I'm over here laughing and finding this whole thing hilarious.

It can be

Entire forum

just to take on one me.....

and I accept it. The whole forum just to take on one me. Yet the banner of "the sun revolves around the earth" continues to stand.

I defend the truth! I am undaunted in persistance for my righteous cause. This is way more entertaining than Facebook. If you are also interested in standing against the falsehood of heliocentrism, feel free to DM me. I think I might sell some t shirts.
 

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honestly, even if you disagree you should find this interesting, entertaining, etc.

if you seriously get upset over this, something's wrong with you
 

Z. T. Jacob

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honestly, even if you disagree you should find this interesting, entertaining, etc.

if you seriously get upset over this, something's wrong with you
There's more to life than entertainment. But, I can tell that there's no reasoning with you, so you can go on being entertained while you claim to be fighting for truth. Some people have lived a lie so long that they cant handle the truth. It's not up to me, the decisions you make and the life you live are up to you and I'm done trying to convince you of anything.
 

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I want 10,000 views for this thread. I am for the people and I am for waking up the masses. This thread has been extremely successful, I don't care what detractors think and I am on the side of the truth, period. Also, pm me if you're interested in a t shirt.
 
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