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I don't understand why j00n has stopped talking in the mic.. It was their first award for the night .atleast the leader should have spoken.. Maybe some baised fans criticized him for speaking and not letting others speak or i dont know... He just shoves the award in other's hands and moves to the back...
And first awkward moment.
They don't even want to. Speak in the mic anyone of them.
Jamal just spoke and shoved the mic in front of suga who got confused and literally didn't want to speak .. And if we see the whole clip we see a little bit of argument between them relating to this issue..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072806822703026178
 
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Hopeful said:
I don't understand why j00n has stopped talking in the mic.. It was their first award for the night .atleast the leader should have spoken.. Maybe some baised fans criticized him for speaking and not letting others speak or i dont know... He just shoves the award in other's hands and moves to the back...
And first awkward moment.
They don't even want to. Speak in the mic anyone of them.
Jamal just spoke and shoved the mic in front of suga who got confused and literally didn't want to speak .. And if we see the whole clip we see a little bit of argument between them relating to this issue..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072806822703026178
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Idk why i m thinking he started to loose his position of leader , he really want to leave bts then prediction could be true his action and word say a lot
 
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unbelievabletruth said:
about 12.12 date....this is in the newspaper today.....https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/nasa-s-osiris-rex-spacecraft-finds-water-asteroid-bennu-here-ncna946321

nasa's space probe OSIRIS-REx found water on an asteroid that is most likely in a collision course with earth(probably in 22nd century)....they found it in november but chose to wait until today(12/12)to announce their findings(they explain that it takes time to check the veracity)...scientists say that this holds the key to know the origin of life on earth.the probe will bring organic sample from asteroid back to earth......did you notice the name of the probe?Osiris......does it remind you of anything?...Osiris myth of egypt(involves resurrection and restoring order and osiris is called the god of underworld and death) holds dear to the occult....
https://www.ancient.eu/osiris/
they say nasa is pretty occultic...so,there it is ...this happened today:oops:...maybe relevant...maybe not
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Now you see the connections? Nasa.. Astronomy ..
J00n was literally being an astronaut

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072855748869271554

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072854523167813632
 
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Overall the performance wasn't anything special ..and there was no skin.

Just the videos they showed as hints or whatever they were ... Showed some stuff that will be discussed here..

And the end of the video was kind of okay i guess.. Like they removed the creepy cloaks atlast and masks were gone and they all were smiling..

But again at the end the door was shut on them...
Maybe showing the end of love yourself era..
 
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The boys didn't put much effort today in Japan like they did in Mma..
I think they're saving as much energy as they could for Friday mama awards show in Hong Kong .. Let's see now ... I think today they closed the Love yourself era... On Friday there might be hints for the new era...
 
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I was on youtube and one video talked about how the world manipulates us. They showed the example of the movie Matrix in which at the very beginning a characters is offering two pills, a red one and a blue one. It remminded me of the previous discussion about the guys using red and blue in their contents.

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Someone in Quora explained it :

"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."―Morpheus to Neo

In the context of the Matrix, a person who picks the red pill will become aware of the Matrix itself and what the machines are doing to them. Someone who takes the blue pill gets to continue living in ignorance, none the wiser of what they are being used for.

If we extend this to a philosophical standpoint, we are faced with the deeper meaning of the choice. Are we ok with living an ignorant life as long as we are happy? Or will we want to search and find the Truth even if it will be a difficult truth to embrace?
 
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Although the mama stage 12/12/18 wasn’t as “Big” as Bighit and BTS usually go these are some of the things I observed
1) Tae is mostly the first or last one
When I look at any performance or intro I always seem to look at who is the first and if there is any latter in the chronological order of members appearing
Apart from Kookie who is both the start and the finish of the intro Tae seems to be the first one where you see his “mask”
He is then the first one to appear in the intro for Fake Love and takes centre stage for the dance break intro
We also see him in the centre of the circle almost like a target right in the middle or an abnormal individual from the rest
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We also see 7 men in robes presumably the members in the mirrors and we see all the members fade or get wiped out from either two sides with Tae right at the end and he is the only one who doesn’t fade
The robes could mean a transition to the other world or BTS becoming evil once they wear the robes but the hooded figures look very similar to the grim reaper and we see that only Taes hooded figure stays
Why is Tae the last one? What is the significance of this?
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Also when they are in their white clothing they are in a line behind eachother and we see each of them fade as the next comes in line and Tae is the last one and he also doesn’t fade
This seems like they will have some sort of plan with V as they’ve erased every member but him
 
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2) The transcripts Analysis
In the past BTS have always had words In previews before they perform it in mvs like the familiar boy meets something phrases
Like any other in this Mama stage they didn’t shy away from adding some me phrases
“Take off the mask and face yourself”-
The running theme of masks keeps carrying on I think it’s a hint at predictive programming because the members have so many alters of themselves they carry more than one mask so their true self is hidden within and they’ve lost their true selves taking us to another phrase,
“I don’t know me, Who are you?”
This could be also a reference to them losing their identity as they have too many versions of themselves and they don’t recognise or understand any of them
“I didn’t know what Power/Love is.....You taught me how to use power/Love
This is very interesting because the phrases start with power and then are erased towards love
I think it links to Saran who thinks he has all the power to lead people astray with that he disguises himself making all the things which are bad the things people love like Music idolising etc
It could also be the BTS members confessions to Satan and how they learnt greed from him and gained power giving fake love to fans and they finally understand the realms of the illuminati almost like they’ve just graduated or entered a heirarchy to become more involved rather than just stay as puppets
 
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unbelievabletruth said:
In the first photo,tea is surrounded by others...like an eye...they also form a hexagon...hexagon is a symbol of saturn in occult...one of their main planets that is also signified by cube symbolism in many mvs....it also looks like a ritual...essentially,they are making tea as their saturn representative(he's a capricorn?).....everyone hides behind him...he is their unofficial leader...the true representative...also,as someone mentioned that these performances have to be watched backwards and inverse,then.....everyone appears from his behind....the figures didn't fade but they appeared one after the other....better check the order,you will find the order of their joining....and in inverse,the hooded figures look like reflections of them in water,their true reflections for the occult to see.....and if the circle around tea is formed in the beginning,then in backwards,it means at the end...signifying the ending of the ritual....hope it helps:)
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Thank you i see but I was looking at it more like a story rather than a ritual so that it’s a deeper meaning to it
I heard about the Saturn thing and a lot of performances are performed in circles because they are taking the ritual from
Thank you for the clarification
Yes but as one appears the other fades behind it :)
 
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unbelievabletruth said:
In the first photo,tea is surrounded by others...like an eye...they also form a hexagon...hexagon is a symbol of saturn in occult...one of their main planets that is also signified by cube symbolism in many mvs....it also looks like a ritual...essentially,they are making tea as their saturn representative(he's a capricorn?).....everyone hides behind him...he is their unofficial leader...the true representative...also,as someone mentioned that these performances have to be watched backwards and inverse,then.....everyone appears from his behind....the figures didn't fade but they appeared one after the other....better check the order,you will find the order of their joining....and in inverse,the hooded figures look like reflections of them in water,their true reflections for the occult to see.....and if the circle around tea is formed in the beginning,then in backwards,it means at the end...signifying the ending of the ritual....hope it helps:)
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i thought that they were sacrificing him but this is teakhj.jpg
 
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wow said:
i dont know if their handlers wrote this or told namjoon to write this, or maybe namjoon wrote it himself, but it seems like he is now in a state where he regrets and rethinking of what he had become and his life had become, dont get me wrong, i have no sympathy for the boys, but i can feel that namjoon is slowly backing up from all this crap. i have seen him being much more dependant on other members like he isnt the leader anymore, he doesnt lead the members like he used to anymore, thus why in that one award show where they wanted to do a speech for receiving an award, he looks nervous on stage and shoved taehyung to do the speech, it seems like he is finally tired of all the crap, he feels pity for himself and his life, i think the whole message is about "what have i become, what have my life become?", i think he is finally done and regrets what he had become.

i dont want to pray for him, but i do hope that he will seek for forgiveness, and i know Allah will help him, for Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
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he's an INFP just like me... so I can say that I can feel his sincerity
btw, hi guys..
 
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And.. Since i said yesterday that k00k and H0bi were the tied members and after k00k.. If the story continues jh0pe will take it further ..
In the Vcr first appeared k00k.. Then taehyung and 3rd jh0pe.. And at the ending of Vcr again jh0pe was the 3rd after k00k and jin.. So basically he is in the center of kook jin taehyung... Very soon his part of the story will be coming.. Just a thought ...
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he's an INFP just like me... so I can say that I can feel his sincerity
btw, hi guys..
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Hiiiii... How are youu
 
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ShiningCarat14 said:
2) The transcripts Analysis
In the past BTS have always had words In previews before they perform it in mvs like the familiar boy meets something phrases
Like any other in this Mama stage they didn’t shy away from adding some me phrases
“Take off the mask and face yourself”-
The running theme of masks keeps carrying on I think it’s a hint at predictive programming because the members have so many alters of themselves they carry more than one mask so their true self is hidden within and they’ve lost their true selves taking us to another phrase,
“I don’t know me, Who are you?”
This could be also a reference to them losing their identity as they have too many versions of themselves and they don’t recognise or understand any of them
“I didn’t know what Power/Love is.....You taught me how to use power/Love
This is very interesting because the phrases start with power and then are erased towards love
I think it links to Saran who thinks he has all the power to lead people astray with that he disguises himself making all the things which are bad the things people love like Music idolising etc
It could also be the BTS members confessions to Satan and how they learnt greed from him and gained power giving fake love to fans and they finally understand the realms of the illuminati almost like they’ve just graduated or entered a heirarchy to become more involved rather than just stay as puppets
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Nice posts
unbelievabletruth said:
In the first photo,tea is surrounded by others...like an eye...they also form a hexagon...hexagon is a symbol of saturn in occult...one of their main planets that is also signified by cube symbolism in many mvs....it also looks like a ritual...essentially,they are making tea as their saturn representative(he's a capricorn?).....everyone hides behind him...he is their unofficial leader...the true representative...also,as someone mentioned that these performances have to be watched backwards and inverse,then.....everyone appears from his behind....the figures didn't fade but they appeared one after the other....better check the order,you will find the order of their joining....and in inverse,the hooded figures look like reflections of them in water,their true reflections for the occult to see.....and if the circle around tea is formed in the beginning,then in backwards,it means at the end...signifying the ending of the ritual....hope it helps:)
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Great analysis ..
And yes if somehow we watch their performances inverted.. They look hella creepy
 
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