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justjess

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He’s in deep with the Saudis and has been for many many years. He’s made millions upon millions of dollars from them way before he ever became president or involved in politics. They are currently keeping at least one of his failing hotels afloat single handedly. Open your eyes.
 

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If he was the free-enterprise genius hes touted as, the Green economy, rebuilding the US infrastructure and developing the non-combustible auto technology which already exists should have been easy for him. Its not. Because hes not a genius, hes not even competent. Hes a vulgar charlatan and low-level con-man. And nobody needs to try and "take him out" as his rabid cult followers swear "the left" is trying to do..... hes hanging himself with his own rope which he still owes money on..........

Either way, you know your arguments have failed when you desperately attempt to switch the topic to "B-bb-but, Hillary and Obammer!" lol
I prefer the term Obummer.

Seriously though, minus the personal attacks I agree with you. The Trump administration hasn't been trying to help the environment. And the infrastructure plan seems to be dead in the water. But idk how much impact the potential ramifications have in the short term.

Everyone is focused on all the allegations of voter fraud. Although the outcomes can't possibly have more than symbolic meaning at this point. What I'm saying is it all seems like a very obvious smokescreen. The same manufactured division people are eating up every day. We fight each other and politicians eat that's how the chain of command works.

This is why we must get out of this era of the child. Like I think it's our responsibility and a choice to mature.
 

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I prefer the term Obummer.

Seriously though, minus the personal attacks I agree with you. The Trump administration hasn't been trying to help the environment. And the infrastructure plan seems to be dead in the water. But idk how much impact the potential ramifications have in the short term.

Everyone is focused on all the allegations of voter fraud. Although the outcomes can't possibly have more than symbolic meaning at this point. What I'm saying is it all seems like a very obvious smokescreen. The same manufactured division people are eating up every day. We fight each other and politicians eat that's how the chain of command works.

This is why we must get out of this era of the child. Like I think it's our responsibility and a choice to mature.
Excellent post...... as for the bammer/bummer?
 

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Excellent post...... as for the bammer/bummer?
I've never inhaled bammer.

I only smell the scent of love. And fear, and every other emotion. But I'm no dog, nor some kind of shark. I just want to be loved, in an unloving world. Maybe that's my real fallacy.

I don't mean to rant at you, but I'm being serious. Like why can't people treat each other good? I'm just saying that might be the core of a lot of our problems as a civilization. People can try to dissect it further but I'm satisfied with the simplicity. We just have to teach people to be nice to each other.

Believe me that I know everyone will laugh at us. But that just proves to me that people are weak. They lack resolve and respect. Plus it takes more strength these days to be nice. And it takes a lot of strength to try to go around telling people to be nice.
 

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I've never inhaled bammer.

I only smell the scent of love. And fear, and every other emotion. But I'm no dog, nor some kind of shark. I just want to be loved, in an unloving world. Maybe that's my real fallacy.

I don't mean to rant at you, but I'm being serious. Like why can't people treat each other good? I'm just saying that might be the core of a lot of our problems as a civilization. People can try to dissect it further but I'm satisfied with the simplicity. We just have to teach people to be nice to each other.

Believe me that I know everyone will laugh at us. But that just proves to me that people are weak. They lack resolve and respect. Plus it takes more strength these days to be nice. And it takes a lot of strength to try to go around telling people to be nice.
That aint a rant and you aint have to apologize. That was a borderline pep talk!
 

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Trump couldnt brave the elements to honor America and our allies fallen soldiers from WW1...... here some of the reaction/fallout......
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american indians did not 'found' anything. they simply were here when the most recent europeans arrived, which is also not to say that the american indians were the original people of the continent. id also submit that although they had their own spirituality and culture which is/was arguably more advanced in some respects than the whites, almost all NA tribes had primative lodging structure and no form of written communication. i am NOT implying that one culture was better or worse-- i AM implying that the white christians brough a hell of a lot of technology and know-how from europe. (yes, some of that knowledge wasnt so great.)

both the native americans and whites committed atrocities. your statements are far too general and way too broad to make any point, not to mention that the atrocities you listed were not committed by 100% white christians.
Dont you ever get tired of just posting lie after lie?
 

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That aint a rant and you aint have to apologize. That was a borderline pep talk!
My man.

You know I'm normally not one to bro it up but I think you are one of the more sensible people here. Maybe we disagree on some things but it's never turned into some weird charade of seeing who can go lower.

I'm only saying this because I had to go low today. I might have gotten some people fired from there jobs. And I do feel bad. I always feel bad whenever I hurt people. At some point, we can't just sit around and do nothing though.

With that said I get your resistance to Trumpism. Now maybe I'm just feeling pessimistic, but I don't feel a lot of hope for the political world to right itself. I think that the system is too convoluted and the mass media is too archaic. Like how they always appeal to the most basic emotions. And again there are those same charades of who can go lower.
 

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My man.

You know I'm normally not one to bro it up but I think you are one of the more sensible people here. Maybe we disagree on some things but it's never turned into some weird charade of seeing who can go lower.

I'm only saying this because I had to go low today. I might have gotten some people fired from there jobs. And I do feel bad. I always feel bad whenever I hurt people. At some point, we can't just sit around and do nothing though.

With that said I get your resistance to Trumpism. Now maybe I'm just feeling pessimistic, but I don't feel a lot of hope for the political world to right itself. I think that the system is too convoluted and the mass media is too archaic. Like how they always appeal to the most basic emotions. And again there are those same charades of who can go lower.
True we dont always agree, no two humans will.... but we respect ourselves, each other and our fellow posters here enough to bring our best. I appreciate that about you and other posters here as well and I hope I can do better with my own activity here in the future.
As for the job ish, I feel you there as well. I was just in a recent situation at work and it was similar, I could eather do what was right or take the hit. I took the hit and I cant regret standing up for what is right, but my financial situation is bleak because of it. Just have to get up everyday and keep trying, somehow and someway.

As for the political climate? It also stinks, but I do truly believe that catastrophes such as the current and past two presidents (and lets be honest, most of them before were up to no good in their own rights) are what is actually needed to bring Americans out of our current stupor. Everything chugs along just enough at present for Americans to continue the charade that we are still a fully functioning society. When the wheels start to fall off, thats when we will see a rise in consciousness imo. We will need it because there will also be a rise in confrontations between those who wish to start a new way forward that includes a future for all, and those who will wish to maintain their current status/life situations, at the expense of others. Im pretty sure where Im at in that equation...........
 

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Stormy was just framed by cops and arrested for nothing, which was dismissed and proven. There was just an attempt to set up false claims about mueller to silence him as well. There is no identified victim or even anonymous victim statement here, with a man with no history of violence or similar behavior (not the same as kavanaugh) so yes it’s fishy, if it ends up being true then so be it. If there was even a victim statement it would make it a lot easier to believe... however with an administration that’s proven its more than willing to commit fraud to silence people it’s probably smart to reserve judgement.

Kavanaugh’s main accuser had confided about the incident years earlier to a therapist and passed a lie detector test - the standard type of lie detector test used for this type of situation whether you agree with it or not. It was also a JOB INTERVIEW not a criminal investigation.
 

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“I have never been physically abusive in my life nor was I last night,” he said. “Any accusations to the contrary are fabricated and meant to do harm to my reputation. I look forward to being fully exonerated.” - Michael Avenatti
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/15/michael-avenatti-arrested-suspicion-domestic-violence/?utm_term=.003e38fe205c

Nope. Sorry. His victim has suffered enough. Why would she lie? #NewRules #BelieveAllWomen

You just cannot make this crap up. Once again, another despicable example of blatant in-your-face hypocrisy. Avenatti and his followers tried to destroy Kavanaugh with totally shady accusations and zero evidence, and we were told to shut up and believe. Now that he's being accused, he cries 'fabricated accusations' and wants fairness. This is the same guy the left put on a pedestal and fully supported because 'Trump'.

Enjoy, Avenatti. You've fully earned this one.
You and your guys.... its like a cross between whack-a-mole & shooting fish in a barrel with yall lol
If you want a more (hilarious and sad) thorough examination of them, here its is.... and oh yes, it gets worse........
Much worse........
The whole trainwreck for those who can handle it. Cant claim any "doctored footage/fake news" with this one.........
 

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You and your guys.... its like a cross between whack-a-mole & shooting fish in a barrel with yall lol
If you want a more (hilarious and sad) thorough examination of them, here its is.... and oh yes, it gets worse........
Much worse........
The whole trainwreck for those who can handle it. Cant claim any "doctored footage/fake news" with this one.........
I see jail in the future for those retards.
 

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Your OPINION on the credibility of Dr Ford, does not make it unequivocal fact.

I didn’t ask for all that.. simply a victim statement. Stop making shit up to fit your argument.
 

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LOL... So you want fairness, proper investigations and actual evidence now? Yeah, sorry, wish I could help. You'll have to abide by the rules the left demanded. Guilty until proven innocent.

#NewRules #BelieveAllWomen

And to note: We've already been through the BS 'evidence' from the Kavanaugh accusers several pages back.
You brought up the Mueller/Avenatti angle, so what do you have to say regarding their accusers (see above videos of Jacob Wohl and Burkman)?
 
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