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JINtercession

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I was searching about moonschildren in the thread and saw this very interesting post deleted. I thought it deserves being added again in the thread (I couldn't get the attachments). Credits to @/hanna
More about Taehyung

(A lot of information because there's an entire book about this, so I tried to minimize this as much as I could http://whale.to/b/springmeier_formula.html I definitely recommend reading it because there's so many connections to bts, so I'll try to write more theories)

The Illuminati is programming such vast numbers of children, they need everyone of their able members to help. Moriah's (Illuminati’s) total membership worldwide numbers in the millions. The Illuminati regimen for their children is far more controlling than the CIA's programming. Not everyone in the Illuminati gets their mind-split and becomes a programmed multiple. However, everyone does get some type of mind-control.
Monarch slaves are mainly used by organizations to carry out operations using patsies trained to perform specific tasks, who do not question orders, who do not remember their actions and, if discovered, who automatically commit suicide. They are the perfect scapegoats for high-profile assassinations (see Sirhan Sirhan), the ideal candidates for prostitution, slavery and private movie productions. They are also the perfect puppet performers for the entertainment industry.

Monarch programmers cause intense trauma to subjects through the use of electroshock, torture, abuse and mind games in order to force them to dissociate from reality – a natural response in some people when then are faced with unbearable pain. The subject’s ability to dissociate is a major requirement and it is, apparently, most readily found in children that come from families with multiple generations of abuse. Mental dissociation enables the handlers to create walled-off personas in the subject’s psyche, which can then be programmed and triggered at will.“

The objective is for the victim to follow directives with no conscious awareness, including execution of acts in clear violation of the victim’s moral principles, spiritual convictions, and volition.
“The basis for the success of the Monarch mind-control programming is that different personalities or personality parts called alters can be created who do not know each other, but who can take the body at different times.

Some of the most common internal images seen by mind control slaves are trees, Cabalistic Tree of life, infinity loops, ancient symbols and letters, spider webs, mirrors, glass shattering, masks, castles, mazes, demons, butterflies, hour glasses, clocks and robots. These symbols are commonly inserted in popular culture movies and videos for two reasons: to desensitise the majority of the population, using subliminals and neuro-linguistic programming and to deliberately construct specific triggers and keys for base programming of highly-impressionable MONARCH children. Some of the movies used in Monarch programming include The Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty.



Love for Lucy:

" V is like me. He's born "into the occult" and is and indigo soul. He sees the hidden and communicate with them.
Seokjin was also born "into it". Every moonchild bears a mark that only people like me can see
Yes, moonchildren exist.
Jimin's soul is interesting, very deep colored and splitted. He could be a moonchild too"

Step 1. (of creating a mind control slave)
Preparation of the Children by Spiritual Preparations & In Utero Traumatization-- The Moon Children

The preparation for someone to be programmed also concerns the ability of a person to be demonized. Generational satanic families are sold out to Satan, and their children belong to Satan in a way that non-generational children do not. Because of the generational curses, because of the genetic bent toward the occult, because of the generational demonic forces, the Illuminati children are very good candidates for Monarch programming. Part of the programming includes the layering in of demonic forces, and the participation in blood rituals in order to draw in the most powerful of demons. An indepth review about this important but controversial subject is in chapter 10.



The Moonchild rituals are the rituals to demonize a fetus. However, the demons that are invoked are not the small ones but very powerful ones. In working with victims of this programming, it is clear that high level demons were placed within these people at very early ages, many of them it is believed were demonized before they were born by rituals like the Moonchild rituals. Blood sacrifices and human sacrifices are always required for this level of magic.



In the book Moonchild (written by Aleister Crowley), the villa used to produce a Moonchild was called "The Butter-fly-Net". The Monarch Project then which is named after the Monarch butterfly is also an allusion to the Moonchild project where Butterflies are an allusion to souls (what Christians call demonic spirits).



There is no "real" person, just as if you smash a mirror into a thousand pieces, there is no single piece that is the "real" original mirror but rather simply fragments that can in turn operate as mirrors. However, there is still a primal self. Early splits are led to believe they are the core. The cult will hide the initial splits beyond recognition.

The programmers set up various alters to pretend to be the core, and the core’s protector. The real core is quite hidden, and not placed within the regular grid of the alter system’s chart. It will take some explaining to convey what happens to the mind, and what the real core is.



It is important to traumatize the child early before it has a chance to develop its ego states. By the way, when the child is placed into a small box with spiders or snakes, they will often be told that if they play dead the snake will not bite them. This carries out two things for the programmers, it lays the basis for suicide programs (i.e. "if-you-are-dead, then you-are-safe" thinking) and it teaches the child to dissociate.



Traumas to split the mind are not just high voltage, or natural phobias, but encompass the full range of the emotional and spiritual being of the victim. The victim is eventually stripped of every spiritual or emotional resource by a variety of traumas, such as "blood orgies" where male and female genitals are cut, torture sessions on all types of medieval torture machines, staged events where actors imitating God, Jesus Christ, police, and therapists curse the victim, reject the victim, and even "kill" the victim in simulated drug deaths.

There are many traumas which can be carried out, which leave no physical scars, but do leave the child with the deepest emotional and spiritual scars. This is often necessary when programming young children who the outside world will see soon after their programming session.

One way of describing the split, is to say that the child’s mind is saying, "This isn’t happening to me, its happening to some one else" and a split in the personality occurs.
The new split will have the characteristics of what it split from. The programmer will ask the alter being tortured to create something in the mind when the split is created--such as "I want 12 white fluffy kittens." The programmer, demons, and the child’s creativity work together with the dissociation to create alters. Those 12 white fluffy kittens will have the characteristics and memories of what they were made from. However, they are separated from each other by dissociation, and they will be given their own script and own separate identity by the programmer.

Each section is walled off from another section by amnesia. Each trauma has an amnesia wall built around it. Each trauma memory is sectioned off. That walled off section is a piece of memory that will be identified, and a hypnotic cue attached by the programmers that will pull it up to the conscious mind. And further, if the programmers so desire, it can be given a history, a name, a job, and developed into a full-blown personality. It’s important to grasp that the entire mind is not sectioned off into parts. Some areas of the mind, such as the area that holds skills & talents, is available to all the alters who want to access that talent. The talent doesn’t belong to that alter but to the System.

The alters created to be fronts to normally hold the body will be given lots of programming to help them hold onto certain denials, so that they will find it necessary to ignore or reinterpret dreaded associations linked with dissociated memories. For instance, a Christian front alter is sincerely very righteous and holy. The thought that this person (technically the alter’s System of persons) could have done the most horrible savage demonic activities is inconceivable. The memories of ritual are safely ignored, because the reality would undermine everything the person is.
The creation of the Moonchildren within the Monarch Project involves high level magic by the circle of Illuminati black magicians who are involved with a particular individual’s programming. It should be noted that Grande Master and Grande Dame alters will understand demonology, but the sections (levels) of alter above them, are not informed. One of the biggest secrets kept from most of the slave’s alters is that their system was demonized while a fetus. First, this would give religious front alters the information they need to get them on the right track towards healing, and it could also adversely affect the programming lies of some of the front alters who don’t realize how premeditated all the trauma and torture is. The front alters of victims remember the cover story that the moon children were produced via torture in cages as little children.http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula1chap.shtml


A monarch slave as a child will be allowed to bond with a pet. The child will want to bond with a pet anyway because people are terrifying by this point. Then the pet is killed in porn to traumatize the child. This happens quite frequently.
^this can explain why there's a puppy in Stigma short film.

The puppy comes after Taehyung gets beaten by something invisible:

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The charismatic branch of the satanic Network (such as the Assembly of God churches) uses porcelain face programming. This is done by using wax masks upon the victim, and giving them fire torture. The person actually thinks that their face has melted. At that point, the programmer pretends to be a god & a hero, and tells the person he will give them a new face, a porcelain mask. These new faces by the way, look like the ones sold in so many stores. The memories of abuse are then hypnotically hid behind the masks. To take off the masks is to abreact & burn again. If anyone touches the faces of alters with porcelain face programming, the alters will feel a burning sensation because their masks are not to be tampered with. This means that these alters have via torture & hypnosis lost their own faces! This is part of the dehumanization process which chapter 10 part C talks about. As long as these alters stay in denial of what has happened to them, they do not have to face the burn torture memories.
(Aiwass mentioned about in her posts that Singularity has signs about his abuse)

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Love for Lucy also mentioned about Taehyung being an indigo soul which makes sense. Here's one of the signs of an indigo soul. He's often been called an alien.
I don't think anything special happened on January 8th this year but your post reminded me of a dream I had on that day, so I'd like to share it!
btw it was the first dream I remember having this year

We came home one night and all the lights were off. We turned just the dining room, kitchen and office lights on, but suddenly the bathroom light also came on automatically. I turned it off but shortly after the light in both the room of my (saved) brother and my room turned on automatically. I turned it off but then I had to turn off my (saved) brother's light again. And there I saw it in a misty silver blue haze, a young Asian girl child with long hair who looked like my (unsaved) brother's friend's granddaughter who comes from a culture that dedicates their children to demons. The child changed between a girl and a boy rampantly. My (saved) brother and I rebuked an evil spirit and I screamed in tongues. The child fell on the floor and turned into a little boy (who looked like baby Taehyung) He looked at me and said in a squeaky American accent " I used plastic carrots and (name of my unsaved brother)'s cards" holding up multiple toy carrots in one hand and multiple tarot cards in the other while giggling.
 

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Sorry it's in French: I took it on the MSN selection. Publish the 26/05/2016: What is extremely interesting is his eyes on the picture:

Quand il a signé pour participer à Parovi, une émission de téléréalité serbe, l’ex-candidat de Secret Story 5 Zelko pensait qu’il sortirait trois mois plus tard. Mais il n’imaginait pas tomber dans un traquenard : « Je suis resté six mois sans sortir en restant assis 14 heures par jour », a-t-il confié à Télé-Loisirs. Il avait évoqué son calvaire sur NRJ12 il y a quelques jours et dans un reportage réalisé par 66 Minutes sur M6, on a même vu plusieurs personnes s’en prendre physiquement à lui. Selon son témoignage, des coups lui ont été assénés parce qu’il avait osé se révolter : « Quand j’ai commencé à dénoncer le système, ils ont fait entrer des gens, des hooligans, qui avaient comme consigne de me nuire, de me taper », a-t-il décrit.



Il est parvenu à s’échapper in extremis, non sans avoir souffert : « Quand j’ai voulu sortir, ils m’ont mis en isolement deux jours, ils m’ont dit de reprendre mes esprits, que je n’allais pas bien. Ils cassent les gens psychologiquement. En direct, sin on ne va pas bien, ils nous disent d’aller au confessionnal pour parler avec la production, mais quand tu y vas, il n’y a personne. Les gens, ils se font laver le cerveau. J’ai vu une fille pleurer tous les jours pendant un mois. » D’après lui, tout cela serait le fait d’un oligarque en très bons termes avec le pouvoir politique. Protégé par le régime, il ferait régner sa loi à la télévision au mépris des règles les plus fondamentales. Zelko entend obtenir justice malgré tout, mais il ne poursuivra pas la chaîne ou la production de l’émission : « Je ne porte pas plainte contre la chaîne, parce que sinon je ne pourrais plus aller en Serbie, ma vie serait en danger. » Ceux qu’il veut retrouver dans la salle d’audience d’un tribunal, ce sont ceux qui l’ont « attaqué physiquement ».
Cette fois-ci, il ne sera pas seul : « J’y retourne avec l’avocate et des gardes du corps, a-t-il indiqué. J’ai besoin de déposer certaines plaintes à la police là-bas (sic). Mais je serai sous escorte. » Et si vous croyez que cette expérience l’a à tout jamais dégoûté de la téléréalité, détrompez-vous : il n’écarte pas l’hypothèse de prendre part à une émission en France.
 

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I'm actually scared
i remember k armys tweeting about seeing the word "look" in their dreams a while back now it looks like its true
The reason behind these dreams is the subliminal messages they leave leave in their songs.. When people listen to them again and again. They get the same dreams.. As most of us members saw V crying almost everytime we see him in dreams..

So it's a kind of mind control programming.. Remember RM's jacket of human mind control? ..

This may sound far fetched.. But just my thought and we don't even know how advanced these people are in technology ..

S. Korea is said to have one of the fastest Internets on the planet..
What else is fast over there...:D
We normal poeple don't know
 

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Charlie and BTS collab The way he looked at Kookie though
I'm sorry but their singing is outrageously bad. I didn't say it back then(esp with the The Truth Untold live) but I'd be ashamed to call myself a singer and get on stage if I sing like this. This is ridiculous and people outside their crazy fangirls will make fun of them. And they are the top boy band in the world rn...just...no words.
 

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I'm sorry but their singing is outrageously bad. I didn't say it back then(esp with the The Truth Untold live) but I'd be ashamed to call myself a singer and get on stage if I sing like this. This is ridiculous and people outside their crazy fangirls will make fun of them. And they are the top boy band in the world rn...just...no words.
Literally same feelings..

I am just surprised .. What happened to them...
 
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I'm sorry but their singing is outrageously bad. I didn't say it back then(esp with the The Truth Untold live) but I'd be ashamed to call myself a singer and get on stage if I sing like this. This is ridiculous and people outside their crazy fangirls will make fun of them. And they are the top boy band in the world rn...just...no words.
I agree it was awful esp Jimin he was so out of pitch and the whole concept of this collaboration was very weak and uncomfortable imo With being “the biggest group” right now they should hold some responsibility And standards of talent I can name 100 more Kpop artists who are better in all three categories of being a Kpop star
It’s a shame and very embarrassing for them
 

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I'm sorry but their singing is outrageously bad. I didn't say it back then(esp with the The Truth Untold live) but I'd be ashamed to call myself a singer and get on stage if I sing like this. This is ridiculous and people outside their crazy fangirls will make fun of them. And they are the top boy band in the world rn...just...no words.
overworked slave laborers... these performances, appearances and tours need to take a break if they're really trying to be the best artists or just toys on display all the time. wake up already beetees!!
 

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I think they made Kai very sex betta kitten and they use a lot of satanic symbolism in their video.
I mean I am not keen on their music as well although I liked them way more than bts back in the time but now bts fame became really annoying to me so I hope exo would surpass them honestly..
I actually agree with you. I feel like, baㅇtaㄴ has no competition anymore. I hope there's at least one boy group (not gg, at the time BPink and Twice are both neck to neck in popularity terms) that becomes actual competition for them. From what I've been watching, NCT has been promoting in the US, but that's it. There's no balance anymore, it's just baㅇtaㄴand no other kpop group at that level.

Also I want to addon that I understand some other comments here, because EXO was my first bias group, and I have to agree that I don't feel the hype anymore.

(Sorry I've been absent these past couple of weeks. I'm currently working on my thesis, which absorbs almost 90% of my time)
 

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Literally same feelings..

I am just surprised .. What happened to them...
The so called rappers are screaming and the "vocals" are...should I even call them vocalists. The live looks just like those X Factor worst auditions. I'm really glad that finally it's gets obvious that there aren't where they're rn because of talent but because of crazy fans or satanic connections.
I've always known about the rap line that just scream try-hardish and V with his fake deep straight line-like voice but didn't know about J1m1n and J1n. They make Cookie sounds like the best singer in the world.
I have a feeling the brainwashing will go so much that such performances will be made look like the best vocal skills out there.
This is the reason why I never got the hype around them when I've witnessed so much talent before them. It's a big mystery how all their fans play deaf or go with the excuse that they dance/are tired.
We're at a point where all other fandoms see it but only Armys live in an imaginary world. This makes me wonder if BT3 will be able to go on for long. Their image is cracking.
 

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I already said this before and will say it again.. That nct and beetees won't come in each other's ways.. They're not allowed to..
Nct attended Amas.. Beetees wasn't allowed to.. There was no way beetees skipped the Amas. They would have adjusted the tour dates easily but didn't .. Because who would look at Nct when you have beetees there..
Nct will surely be the next beetees but i don't know why there is something still unique to beetees .. Maybe it's the moderate number of members.. Nct has like 3 types of Ncts.. Dream and 127 and i don't remember the 3rd one.. Like you just don't know who to give credit to.. All are Nct in the end..

When i saw Ncts Halloween video suggestion .. It already clicked in my mind then and there .. SO THAT'S WHY BEETEES DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THIS YEAR..
They aren't allowed to come in their way..
And steal the spotlight ofcourse..

They're making fans used to not seeing them... Gradually
I fully agree. I get the same feeling from NCT. I was very surprised when YT suggested to watch their live performance at Jimmy Kimmel's live show.
 

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well this is a surprise, sorry $uga..no grammy this year...

Full Article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2018/11/01/k-pop-superstars-bts-have-been-ruled-ineligible-for-the-best-new-artist-grammy/#7ea23b506673

K-Pop Superstars BTS Have Been Ruled Ineligible For The Best New Artist Grammy
Hugh McIntyreContributor

Hollywood & Entertainment



"Eligibility for the upcoming Grammy Awards closed on September 30, which means that this is the time for predictions about who might snag a nomination or what songs and albums will be woefully ignored is now. Everybody seems to have an opinion about what deserves to be recognized, but when it comes to the most prestigious prize in the music industry, there are strict rules, and those boundaries can keep some popular chart-toppers from being recognized.

According to a source close to the awards, BTS has been ruled ineligible for the coveted prize.

While this year was the one in which they changed all the rules about who can rule the charts in America, BTS has been together and releasing music in the U.S. for years, and that is why they won’t be able to compete for this trophy. They landed their first top 10 album back in September 2017, when their EP Love Yourself: Her peaked at No. 7. Technically, that success took place in the previous year’s eligibility period.

Before that, they placed four other titles on the Billboard 200 over a period of a few years, though none of them made a major impact (only one broke into the Top 40). So while it’s arguable that they didn’t rise to prominence until this year, they have simply released too much music to compete for this once-in-a-lifetime honor.

According to the Recording Academy, in order to be eligible for Best New Artist consideration, any act “must have released a minimum of five singles/tracks or one album, but no more than 30 singles/tracks or three albums in their career to date.”

With several albums having made it to the most important chart in the U.S. throughout the years, it’s clear that they have gifted their fans with more than 30 songs, so this isn’t the vertical for them.

With BTS out of the running for Best New Artist, it’s anybody’s guess who will fill the eight slots available, and the public won’t find out until nominations are announced on December 5."
I don't know if I should feel happy about this?
It's just that ㅅugas's so called 'predictions' were starting to scare me.
 
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