Trumped

[free2018]

I hear you. Trump's just a regular neighborhood guy to me. I stand by what I said.

 

[Thunderian]

You have no idea what those cooperation deals have or have not vested out yet. Manafort case had nothing to do with trump, the cooperation agreement he struck for reduced jail time though is a different story since he specifically has to cooperate with the collusion investigation and it wouldn’t have been offered if he had nothing relevant.

You won’t know what mueller has until he has an ironclad case. Again, see previous racqueteering investigations.

And what of trumps lawyer implicating him directly in felonies under oath? Completely separate but not exactly nothing.

We know the exact deal that Manafort worked out, and none of it has to do with Trump.

The only way someone “flipping” is bad news for Trump is if he has indeed done something illegal, and as of right now, after nearly three years of 24/7 scrutiny at the hands of a beyond-corrupt FBI, two years of scrutiny from a rabidly partisan media, two congressional investigations, and 18 months of an unaccountable fishing expedition by a herd of Democrat Dirty Cops in the special counsel office, they got exactly zippo.​

https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/09/15/nolte-manafort-deal-looks-like-good-news-for-trump-terrible-news-for-democrats/​

In other words, so far none of these so-called flippers has flipped on Trump.​

 

[Colonel Valerio]

We know the exact deal that Manafort worked out, and none of it has to do with Trump.

The only way someone “flipping” is bad news for Trump is if he has indeed done something illegal, and as of right now, after nearly three years of 24/7 scrutiny at the hands of a beyond-corrupt FBI, two years of scrutiny from a rabidly partisan media, two congressional investigations, and 18 months of an unaccountable fishing expedition by a herd of Democrat Dirty Cops in the special counsel office, they got exactly zippo.​

In other words, so far none of these so-called flippers has flipped on Trump.​

Wanna trade citizenship? I don’t like Trudeau but I dislike him a lot less than the monster that runs my country, and you’re higher than me 5 years ago in a cheap motel on Trump so it’s a win win.

 

[justjess]

We know the exact deal that Manafort worked out, and none of it has to do with Trump.

The only way someone “flipping” is bad news for Trump is if he has indeed done something illegal, and as of right now, after nearly three years of 24/7 scrutiny at the hands of a beyond-corrupt FBI, two years of scrutiny from a rabidly partisan media, two congressional investigations, and 18 months of an unaccountable fishing expedition by a herd of Democrat Dirty Cops in the special counsel office, they got exactly zippo.​

In other words, so far none of these so-called flippers has flipped on Trump.​

Did you miss section 8? What else would mueller value cooperation with? There’s no reason to offer a plea to someone already found guilty and when your winning unless they can offer you something valuable.

 

[Thunderian]

Lisa Page testified that at the time Mueller was appointed, there was no evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. A year and half later, there is still no evidence. This was clearly a witch hunt from the beginning, and it's going to bite Dems and deep staters in the butt very soon.

 

[justjess]

Ok I will ask again... what other kind of cooperation could Manafort have offered that would have enticed mueller to give a plea deal when Manafort was already convicted and headed to a lengthy prison term and 99% likely to lose on his remaining charges as well?

 

[Helioform]

• 61 percent of respondents said the investigation is serious and should be fully investigated. That’s up 6 points since June and 3 points since August. Fewer people (33 percent) than in the previous two polls said the investigation is an effort to discredit Trump.
• 72 percent said Trump should testify under oath in the investigation if he’s asked, up 4 points since June.
• 47 percent said Trump should be impeached and removed from office, a 5-point jump since June

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-approval-rating-is-down-muellers-is-up-is-there-a-connection/

 

[Thunderian]

If a special counsel was determined without any evidence, how is that not a witch hunt?

If there is evidence, why has none turned up?

 

[Thunderian]

Paul Manafort could flip on a big fish — but that might not be Trump

 

[Thunderian]

Ok I will ask again... what other kind of cooperation could Manafort have offered that would have enticed mueller to give a plea deal when Manafort was already convicted and headed to a lengthy prison term and 99% likely to lose on his remaining charges as well?

I just posted a link. Manafort know lots of people, including Tony Podesta and Greg Craig, former White House counsel to Obama. Both Podesta's and Craig's law firms are being investigated right now. If Mueller doesn't come up with something on Trump, he may satisfy the mob's bloodlust by going after some juicy Democrat targets, and they are much, much dirtier than Trump is alleged to be.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I just posted a link. Manafort know lots of people, including Tony Podesta and Greg Craig, former White House counsel to Obama. Both Podesta's and Craig's law firms are being investigated right now. If Mueller doesn't come up with something on Trump, he may satisfy the mob's bloodlust by going after some juicy Democrat targets, and they are much, much dirtier than Trump is alleged to be.

I guess we will see, soon enough.

 

[Thunderian]

And what of trumps lawyer implicating him directly in felonies under oath? Completely separate but not exactly nothing.

I meant to respond to this and forgot to. The alleged felony is a campaign finance violation. The amount of the alleged violation is less than the amount Obama was fined a few years ago for doing the exact same thing. It's not nothing, but it's about as close to it as you can be.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I meant to respond to this and forgot to. The alleged felony is a campaign finance violation. The amount of the violation is less than the amount Obama was fined a few years ago for doing the exact same thing. It's not nothing, but it's about as close to it as you can be.

It isn’t nearly the same as the Obama case, it’s a candidate using campaign funds to cover up an affair to influence the election.

 

[Thunderian]

I guess we will see, soon enough.

There are people who have always said that Mueller has been working for Trump this whole time, and that this has been cover for an investigation of people tied to the Democratic machine. I never bought it, but I am now having second thoughts.

Look at it this way: We have no evidence of Russian collusion, but we are now sure that the Department of Justice was working against Trump even before his election, in conjunction with the Obama White House and the Clintons. That's a fact. And Trump hasn't said anything against Manafort, like he did with Cohen. He appears to have no problem at all with Manafort's deal.

And there's this:

Nunes: Democrats, Journalists Will Be ‘Frightened’ By Declassified Trump-Russia Documents

It looks like all classified material relating to the investigation will be made public right before the midterms. This will include documentation that supported the FISA warrants that were used to spy on Trump. It's a certain thing that this will make people in the Democratic party look very bad, as the "evidence" that was used to justify the warrants was solely the so-called Steele dossier. The Steele dossier was cooked up by a British spy, using Russian sources, all paid for by the FBI and the DNC. Talk about colluding with foreigners to influence the election.

 

[Thunderian]

It isn’t nearly the same as the Obama case, it’s a candidate using campaign funds to cover up an affair to influence the election.

Still, it's not considered a big deal.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

There are people who have always said that Mueller has been working for Trump this whole time, and that this has been cover for an investigation of people tied to the Democratic machine. I never bought it, but I am now having second thoughts.

Look at it this way: We have no evidence of Russian collusion, but we are now sure that the Department of Justice was working against Trump even before his election, in conjunction with the Obama White House and the Clintons. That's a fact. And Trump hasn't said anything against Manafort, like he did with Cohen. He appears to have no problem at all with Manafort's deal.

And there's this:

Nunes: Democrats, Journalists Will Be ‘Frightened’ By Declassified Trump-Russia Documents

It looks like all classified material relating to the investigation will be made public right before the midterms. This will include documentation that supported the FISA warrants that were used to spy on Trump. It's a certain thing that this will make people in the Democratic party look very bad, as the "evidence" that was used to justify the warrants was solely the so-called Steele dossier. The Steele dossier was cooked up by a British spy, using Russian sources, all paid for by the FBI and the DNC. Talk about colluding with foreigners to influence the election.

Hey you could be right, I’ve always said Trump’s election was a coup, and if Mueller targets a bunch of Democrats prior to the elections it will be more proof that the elite wanted Him all along.

 

[Thunderian]

Hey you could be right, I’ve always said Trump’s election was a coup, and if Mueller targets a bunch of Democrats prior to the elections it will be more proof that the elite wanted Him all along.

Could it possibly have anything to do with all the illegal things they've been doing?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Could it possibly have anything to do with all the illegal things they've been doing?

It could. Corporate Democrats are and always will be corrupt, it wouldn’t be hard for a soon to be dictator like Trump to use legitimate grievances against his enemies to seize absolute power.

Want to be an American yet?

 

[Thunderian]

Could it possibly have anything to do with all the illegal things they've been doing?

The narrative is that Trump, with no evidence, is to be considered guilty and the Mueller commission totally justified, but if the Democrats actually do something wrong and are investigated for it, it's a conspiracy.

See why more and more people are taking criticism of Trump less and less seriously?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

The narrative is that Trump, with no evidence, is to be considered guilty and the Mueller commission totally justified, but if the Democrats actually do something wrong and are investigated for it, it's a conspiracy.

See why more and more people are taking criticism of Trump less and less seriously?

Whether it has anything to do with Russia or not, you can’t deny the man consorts with a lotta crooks.