BTS discussion thread

[Sally.H]

You should see how we solved this peacefully in the Kpop thread
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/page-342

Please compare your first posts in this thread and the other thread. There is a stark difference in your tone and attitude in the other thread. This is what I meant when I said if you had presented your arguments in a civil way, it would have gotten a better response.Thank you for highlighting my point


XVI from your posts it seems like you are someone who won’t mind harsh words as long as they’re the truth. I’ll be frank with you.

It seems that you already came to this thread with a preconceived notion that we are “delusional armies” and “idiots” and don’t deserve respect. Honestly, it’s your choice.I also see you’ve opened a thread to discuss your point which is the appropriate thing to do. If your concern is for new users or “people who can think for themselves’’, they will be able to see your thread and can go there if they wish. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue posting on this thread just to mock and belittle the members here. It’s completely uncalled for.

I think we’ve all been guilty of this at one point or another, but it’s a good reminder. If you are a believer, then we should always remind ourselves to not make fun of others or mock them. You never know their position in the eyes of God. It could be they are better than us and we don’t know. The reason is we can’t see people’s hearts and intentions. Only God can. They could be genuine in their pursuit of truth even if it takes them years, that’s fine.As long as they’re trying and making the effort to understand and move from their current state, they should be welcomed and encouraged.

With that said,

To anyone lurking, there is no reason why someone who identifies as an army shouldn’t be able to post in this forum. As long as they’re open minded and respectful, anyone is welcome. At the end of the day, we want everyone to be saved.

Let’s all make an effort to stay polite and observe good manners even if it’s online.

 

[WOKE_ARMY]

Honestly, I am disappointed. Please ignore trolls. XVI has some points, but I don’t agree with everything XVI says. That doesn’t mean I can attack XVI just because I have conflicting opinions. Please don’t be immature or lash out. Think before you type. If it really bothers you, report and/or ignore them. Please accept that other people have different views and opinions. Being rude each other is not the solution. Being angry and immature in one’s posts is a bad reflection of the thread. Have a day .

I came back to see what more XVI posts because it’s interesting and yes he/she has a great point.
Yes you are right. Reading the replies disapoint me as well.
I also got mad when I read XVI’s first post but then I reflected. I slowly digested all the infos.
You guys should do the same too.
As much as we want others to be open minded and accepting in reading all the information here, we should all also, be open minded and accepting what she/he trying to convey.
Instead, we bickers. XVI also had his/her wrong in stating his/her opinions ( which I thought not mocking other posters before they were triggered by it ), but you guys who replied back showing like you guys are no different that the Army, the way you guys trying to disagree.
Some of you guys really just proved what XVI said is right.
Fangirling without realising it.

 

[josi]

For all the people who are still bothered by my posts: Ignore me. Don't bother sending me your disgusting reaction videos cause I'm not one to watch things I don't like, unlike the armies here

I have not seen all your posts but what is your advantage of this
Do you want to try to end this topic?

 

[Maggieca]

You should see how we solved this peacefully in the Kpop thread
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/page-342

you were a lot nicer there and I think thats the main problem. Because you were also the person who said army shouldn't post in the kpop thread anymore and then you come here and do the same thing so a lot of users reject you

Now, going to your main point I actually agree, I read the replies of the users there and I feel the same way. even if I don't analyse music videos or listen to their music anymore I find myself following twitter accounts just to update this thread with info so I have to wonder: in this thread helping me break free or actually keeping me atached to them?
I wonder why I follow twitter accounts about this group if I don't even like them or their music anymore? and then I reach the conclusion that I'm giving them my energy and time so I'm doing what they want

It's good to expose the symbols but this thread has 700 pages and we are pósting every day about trivial things and giving this group atention and following their activities wich means we are not acting different than the regular fans

I know that a lot of users here are still fans and like I said the thread has been going for a long time so we feel a familiarity with each other but I don't think being so atached is good (at least for me) so I chose to leave
but I respect the regular users here and I know they have good intentions so I ask you to not insult or be rude to them, I sent a PM to the administrator of the site to fix the problem because the insults and personal attacks are against the rules of the forum:

1. Do not attack forum members on a personal level. This includes insults, name calling, flaming, baiting and repeated harassment.

so now we just have to wait and see what they decide to do with the thread because a lot of the rules have been broken. I won't be here anymore so the regular users who decide to stay can take care of it.

 

[Hopeful]

you were a lot nicer there and I think thats the main problem. Because you were also the person who said army shouldn't post in the kpop thread anymore and then you come here and do the same thing so a lot of users reject you

Now, going to your main point I actually agree, I read the replies of the users there and I feel the same way. even if I don't analyse music videos or listen to their music anymore I find myself following twitter accounts just to update this thread with info so I have to wonder: in this thread helping me break free or actually keeping me atached to them?
I wonder why I follow twitter accounts about this group if I don't even like them or their music anymore? and then I reach the conclusion that I'm giving them my energy and time so I'm doing what they want

It's good to expose the symbols but this thread has 700 pages and we are pósting every day about trivial things and giving this group atention and following their activities wich means we are not acting different than the regular fans

I know that a lot of users here are still fans and like I said the thread has been going for a long time so we feel a familiarity with each other but I don't think being so atached is good (at least for me) so I chose to leave
but I respect the regular users here and I know they have good intentions so I ask you to not insult or be rude to them, I sent a PM to the administrator of the site to fix the problem because the insults and personal attacks are against the rules of the forum:

1. Do not attack forum members on a personal level. This includes insults, name calling, flaming, baiting and repeated harassment.

so now we just have to wait and see what they decide to do with the thread because a lot of the rules have been broken. I won't be here anymore so the regular users who decide to stay can take care of it.

.. Oh so this troll is the reason of the making of this thread.. Lejindary troll i must say ...
A disguised brainwashed fan army whatever .. Who doesn't care about other groups but is dying if we say something to his her favorite beetees .. Even turns his her back to her so called IDOLS.. And call them s4t4nists just so that we would stop pinpointing her favorites.. Nooooo.. No some of us are not stopping anytime soon..

 

[Idkmolla]

Stop wasting your energy and your time for this person or this troll i don't care ,she just tries to divide us and to dissolve the thread do not be naiv.

 

[JimiJymy]

*WARNING: Very long package...I'm sorry*

I have been looking at the comments for the past 2/3 days and I am so really confused...I really don't understand what is the difference between the Kpop threads that we have on this forum and YouTube channels for example, that expose hidden agendas or explain occult signs and symbols?
None of us should feel forced to read comments or watch videos every single seconds-minutes-hours-days-weeks-months-years-decades...whatever

For exemple, if you like cakes. Cakes are good but too much of it will make you cry...So there needs to be an equilibrium. If all occult things (illuminati, freemasonry, luciferianism, satanism, etc.) take there roots from the doctrines of the Devil and that the devil only brings death and destruction then, what fills you of life?

Personally, I didn't come on both threads just to feed myself with information but also to share what I know with other people (in and outside of the threads) who are still blind to so many things. To tell people 'THIS is not good [...] BECAUSE there is this and that [...] THEN here is the alternative that you are looking for, that will bring you life'. If people accept it then that's great 'hallelujah' but if they do not then what can you do. You cannot force feed them.

I think one of the things that create conflict is when you are crossing the line between Theories/Fictions and Reality. I strongly believe that a lot of things that have been discussed since December are real and happening around us. Especially all these disgusting things that are going on in the entertainment industry. The question that I asked RM during the Vlive was not to break him nor to humiliate him but because I was just tired (and still am) of hearing testimonies of people who went through what some are still going through today. Even yesterday, I was doing bible studies with relatives living in France and they told me that sexual consent was pushed back to 11 years old. 11 for what?!.

If there is still a slight possibility that some people in the entertainment industry are looking for a way out but cannot find it and yourself knowing the way out, shouldn't you tell them? Personally, I think that the only way is Jesus-Christ. Not only because I heard people telling me so but because I can myself testify of things that happened in my life. But once again, If people accept it then that's great but if they do not then you have to move on.

If some of us are being led to quit because of their faith then that's good. But, if some of us are leaving because of fear & other strong emotions then...it might be a good idea to sit down and think where these emotions are coming from.

Finally, there's a 'funny' thought that came into my mind and I wanted to share it because some of you might know the answer. For example, if some people had important details to reveal. Could it be possible to prevent them from speaking by manipulating and diverting the masses from the real issue?.........Some of us know how to play the mind game really well and it comes a time where praying God for protection and guidance is really necessary....like REALLY necessary.

 

[HealingHugs]

You won't even take the advices written by your own people, so I totally get it if you can't take mine. Once again for the 1000th time, my posts are only for people who want to think for themselves. If you hate me that much, you should have just ignored me. I've said that so many times before, but some of you really like to prolong your misery just like how you're all keep digging in the wrong place with the glamorisation of your idols

And @Hopeful, I know you're strong, hopeful, and unstoppable. And I don't care. You can keep doing your stuff if you want, and I do mine. I've reached an agreement with your friend @deniiiiXD, you should follow her footsteps too. You can keep liking hateful comments made for me, and I won't bat an eye, just don't read my posts if you're that bothered.

Some of you kept asking me if I was an insider like this user @Pretty did, or if I knew the boys personally. I could ask the same about you guys. I swear some of you think you'll meet those boys one day and try asking the risky questions about them being in the occult elite, well that's a wonderful fantasy I must say No wonder you unconsciously "wanted" me to be an insider somehow, because you want to be involved in a great fantasy about you saving your idols so this "insider" somehow had to be there along the way.

Let me tell you something. All this mind game comes from myself, I'm not Bang PD or one of his minions. I'm just your regular lejendary troll (@Hopeful's spelling), actually it all depends on how you perceive me whether I am, or I am not. And this is not a mind game, if you really use your mind there. I'm not trying to divert your mind toward evil or leading you into my trap.

@Sally.H, you made a point about how I should tolerate people who identify themselves as ARMY because they're still learning, and I agree with you. However, the problem is that... there's a lot of hypocrisy going on. The conversations I had with two members here showed how they're totally confused about their own identity. "I'm a fan but I hate what they sometimes do", "We can like them and hate them at the same time", "Army -> us", "Oh you get it wrong dear, we're not Army anymore". Dear posters, you must learn how to choose sides. If you see a picture of Baphomet, will you say that he's good but bad as well? Or just bad? Or just good? Even real satanists are more decisive than these "woke" fans.

I appreciate and respect the whole process of "learning", I've been in your shoes too, but you'll never get anywhere by doing the same dangerous things you did as a fan. Show some effort, show some open-mindedness, and you'll get somewhere

Ok, you really need to stop spamming your thoughts now. I got your intentions the first post and even agreed with your thoughts but since then you have behaved as the very definition of an internet troll. The thread creator told you to stop, and I think you need to stop. This thread has helped people and people have left of their own accord and moved on, but you really are bullying people to leave and you know it. You are provoking reactions, it was peaceful before you came. I'm a VC vet, been reading for over 10 years before I even knew what Kpop was, please do not bring your bad vibes here. Be respectful as the site intends, or leave people alone! Thank you kindly.

 

[deniiiiXD]

Where is the ignore button

Click on a member's icon and this will appear:

 

[deniiiiXD]

So she wants no more people that can be saved by the thread. In case you didn't know what she does.

 

[Hopeful]

Ok so this is the last instagram post by m4c miller.. He posted it in September 6..
And we very well know we call this pose the notorious V pose..

 

[deniiiiXD]

I thought you've ignored me already? That's what happens when you only read 1% of what I wrote. Doesn't matter

So you're think you're saving people? You really see yourself as a saviour don't you?

You are obviously part of an occult. You put questions that can make us join your game. You fool people's minds that seeking the truth is another form of obsession so that they can leave the thread and stop exposing truths. You gotta know that if I hadn't joined the thread simply reading it would have not saved me. Saying these. Peace.

 

[deniiiiXD]

Please answer me, does this helping your task to save lives easier? @deniiiiXD?

Let's talk in DMs

 

[deniiiiXD]

Haha, yes cause in your mind anything has to be BTS-related, so I have to be a part of the occult for me to protect the lil boys. Nice fantasy

I exposed you haha. Look at her she can't deny what I said

 

[deniiiiXD]

A dose of 666 + proper hand signs + V sign each day = saving lives

You are irrelevant

 

[deniiiiXD]

Take a look at yourself being irrelevant

Omg no XD

 

[deniiiiXD]

For you @deniiiiXD not from me but your own member @mimis

GOD CAN'T SAVE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO GET SAVED! HE CAN'T SAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WILLINGLY REFUSING HIM (LIKE BTS) We were not saying that God can't save everyone, HE CAN!!! But bts DOESN'T WANT TO GET SAVED so there is no point in trying for them because they even warned us not to bother them with our believes!!! I feel like we are arguing about different things. You argue that God can save everyone and we believe that!!! But the point was that they don't want to get saved not that they can't get saved. They can, if they wanted to.. BUT THEY DON'T!!!

Shut up you've been exposed. Devil also quoted the Bible XD We got your games

 

[deniiiiXD]

What? That was @mimis not me, so you're accusing your own member is the Devil?

You are obviously part of an occult fam XD You talk like them

 

[deniiiiXD]

Hahaha forcing your fantasy into anything, girl you really need to take some time off

There was a thelema girl in the past maybe you are friends XD

 

[Lightoftheworld]

No hate intended to anyone. But please carry out this argument in private not spoiling the essence of this thread . @XVI I understand your points are absolutely right but if you keep on adding extra 10 pages of arguments then obviously we will all consider you as an annoying troll. No one will be able to accept your message you're trying to speak out. Just state your opinions , please don't fight.