Etagloc
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For you people who are like "Ye fools! Do ye not understand- the elite is using HEGELIAN DIALECTIC! It is all MERE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC!!!!!!!" so they can act like they know anything about Hegel and can sound smart...... You have not read Hegel. Stop fronting.
I cannot stand people who try to sound smart by acting like they understand Hegel by talking about "Hegelian dialectic". I knew a dude trying to sound smart who knew nothing about philosophy and thought he could know philosophy by famous quotes. I asked him his favorite philosopher and he said Hegel. I asked him what his favorite book by Hegel was.... "well umm..... I haven't actually read any of his books. But I know he came up with the Hegelian dialectic............."
You do not understand a philosopher if you read their damn Wikipedia article. You do not understand a philosopher if you read a quote by them on Facebook. If you do not read books, please do not talk. Please put tape over your mouth. You cannot be educated without reading books. That is education. If you have a PH.D. but you never read anything except excerpts your teacher told you to read.... please be silent. You could have ten PH.D.s but you're still uneducated. I would rather talk to an illiterate person because at least they'll be interesting. And people come out of college dumber than they came in. They spent years being indoctrinated and now they think they know something. At least before they went, they knew they knew nothing and thus were smarter than when their professors filled their heads with nonsense and they simply believed there are 742 genders because their professor told them that and they're dumb enough to believe anything their professor taught. If you're offended by this, you're part of the problem. Because if you were part of the solution, you would also be upset at the indoctrination that goes on in the college. If the indoctrination no longer appears as a problem to you, this is a symptom of you being indoctrinated and means you yourself are indoctrinated. I've been to college too. It's a Darwinian selection of the most obedient and unquestioning. Your piece of paper is a badge of shame and you got it through your willingness to jump through someone's hoops and its importance is economic, not educational.
Anyways, back to Hegel. I've actually read the Phenomenology of Spirit- more accurately, I've read some of the Preface. The Preface is extremely difficult. Hegel is a notoriously difficult philosopher. If you have not read the Phenomenology of Spirit, do not talk about Hegel. I don't even understand Hegel. I simply understand enough to know that I don't understand Hegel.
And please be quiet about Hegelian dialectic. People who talk about "Hegelian dialectic"- which of Hegel's books does it come from? Phenomenology of Spirit? Lectures on the Philosophy of History?
Correct answer: You've never read Hegel and you're pretending to be knowledgeable about something you know nothing about and you are merely regurgitating what you heard somewhere without even verifying it. Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis, oh psuedointellectual, comes from Fichte. It does not come from Hegel.
"Fichte introduced into German philosophy the three-step of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, using these three terms. Schelling took up this terminology. Hegel did not. He never once used these three terms together to designate three stages in an argument or account in any of his books. And they do not help us understand his Phenomenology, his Logic, or his philosophy of history; they impede any open-minded comprehension of what he does by forcing it into a scheme which was available to him and which he deliberately spurned [...] The mechanical formalism [...] Hegel derides expressly and at some length in the preface to the Phenomenology.[36][37]"
As someone whose actually read Hegel I find it extremely annoying to see this nonsense. I've seen it twice just today- two different people talking about "Hegelian dialectic". Please don't pretend to know about Hegel when you know nothing about Hegel. I know this may seem petty to people but I actually am a fan of Hegel and have a small collection of Hegel-related books so I find this very annoying. Thank you.
I cannot stand people who try to sound smart by acting like they understand Hegel by talking about "Hegelian dialectic". I knew a dude trying to sound smart who knew nothing about philosophy and thought he could know philosophy by famous quotes. I asked him his favorite philosopher and he said Hegel. I asked him what his favorite book by Hegel was.... "well umm..... I haven't actually read any of his books. But I know he came up with the Hegelian dialectic............."
You do not understand a philosopher if you read their damn Wikipedia article. You do not understand a philosopher if you read a quote by them on Facebook. If you do not read books, please do not talk. Please put tape over your mouth. You cannot be educated without reading books. That is education. If you have a PH.D. but you never read anything except excerpts your teacher told you to read.... please be silent. You could have ten PH.D.s but you're still uneducated. I would rather talk to an illiterate person because at least they'll be interesting. And people come out of college dumber than they came in. They spent years being indoctrinated and now they think they know something. At least before they went, they knew they knew nothing and thus were smarter than when their professors filled their heads with nonsense and they simply believed there are 742 genders because their professor told them that and they're dumb enough to believe anything their professor taught. If you're offended by this, you're part of the problem. Because if you were part of the solution, you would also be upset at the indoctrination that goes on in the college. If the indoctrination no longer appears as a problem to you, this is a symptom of you being indoctrinated and means you yourself are indoctrinated. I've been to college too. It's a Darwinian selection of the most obedient and unquestioning. Your piece of paper is a badge of shame and you got it through your willingness to jump through someone's hoops and its importance is economic, not educational.
Anyways, back to Hegel. I've actually read the Phenomenology of Spirit- more accurately, I've read some of the Preface. The Preface is extremely difficult. Hegel is a notoriously difficult philosopher. If you have not read the Phenomenology of Spirit, do not talk about Hegel. I don't even understand Hegel. I simply understand enough to know that I don't understand Hegel.
And please be quiet about Hegelian dialectic. People who talk about "Hegelian dialectic"- which of Hegel's books does it come from? Phenomenology of Spirit? Lectures on the Philosophy of History?
Correct answer: You've never read Hegel and you're pretending to be knowledgeable about something you know nothing about and you are merely regurgitating what you heard somewhere without even verifying it. Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis, oh psuedointellectual, comes from Fichte. It does not come from Hegel.
"Fichte introduced into German philosophy the three-step of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, using these three terms. Schelling took up this terminology. Hegel did not. He never once used these three terms together to designate three stages in an argument or account in any of his books. And they do not help us understand his Phenomenology, his Logic, or his philosophy of history; they impede any open-minded comprehension of what he does by forcing it into a scheme which was available to him and which he deliberately spurned [...] The mechanical formalism [...] Hegel derides expressly and at some length in the preface to the Phenomenology.[36][37]"
As someone whose actually read Hegel I find it extremely annoying to see this nonsense. I've seen it twice just today- two different people talking about "Hegelian dialectic". Please don't pretend to know about Hegel when you know nothing about Hegel. I know this may seem petty to people but I actually am a fan of Hegel and have a small collection of Hegel-related books so I find this very annoying. Thank you.
