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I am confused reading this thread. Why do you still care about them when they themselves do not care about their souls? They clearly heavily involved in dark things for a years and keep involve yet many of you still pray for them?

I do not have bad intention by stating my opinion just do not understand at all about your hopes to them.
 

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Another IN
INFJ here; although there was once when I got my result as INTJ. I guess I'm more of a feeler with a tendency to think logically. Being a feeler doesn't necessarily mean one will forsake her analysis skills. Lols.
Another INFJ here! We're 1% of the general population according to Carl Jung. We can discern whether an individual is being authentic or not and that can be a double-edged sword, making us easily overwhelmed:oops:
 

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But from where do you know if their want or not. Tea had a christion song on his spotify playlist. Also J1n had many times says god bless you and my the grace of god be with you also he has said that the army should pray for him. Also the others members said many times bless you. Why they should said bless you if they dont have any believe in god.
Are you in their hearts that you know if they believes or not. Do you know if their are not forced to this ?We both dont know them but you can pray for them for bless. You will not lose anything.
I know they don't want to be innocent! RM warned truthers in his summer notes not to bother them with our believes because they ''still choose to live that way''. All of the members are not religious. So they use religious phrases as a mockery to our God!
Suga said it all in his mixtape.[Lyrics from 'Give it to me'] ''Even if I die I don’t think I’ll live like that'' (without money, fame and alcohol) They use so much hate in their songs, that's why they devide so much people and make them fight for them. They live by the rule ''devide and conquer'' (''Get lost, that’s just the politics within the word “success”) ..Just check out those creepy lyrics from RM (another song about hate and violence) https://genius.com/Rm-do-you-lyrics ..And you tell me they love God deep inside just because they said bless you and listen to satanic ''christian'' songs?
I feel like they did the UNICEF campain so they can remove the hate comments like ''their songs are just about hating on haters'' and then fans will be like ''noo, what are you stupid? They support Unicef and are against violence..you make no sense!'' . I know their strategy..it's not that hard to match the dots. They are the most satanic kpop group ever, they embrace the hate agenda, lgbt agenda, drugs/alcohol and party agenda, the power of I am/ love yourself (satanic) agenda..they learn people how to be selfish and hate others, how to dress up in skirts and high heels if you are a man and wear heavy make up, party hard and ''Money, fame, anything is fine so bring it to me'' , they normalise the satanic party rituals as being part of their ''genius concept'' (in FL), their stage preformances are filled with very subtle satanic symbolism they affect fans' subconscious and don't forget they are aware of it all. RM especially with his 148 IQ is definitly behind most of their satanic work! ..like they are more than satanic, they probably met satan in person and are trying to show fans how great he is (because he can give you fame and money, and you can do whatever you want ..f* God, f* religion..we are a religion, worship us we are your idols!!) That's what's on their mind I don't need to see their staged shows, where the producers and their manager tell them what to say and when to laugh.
You think they are puppets so they need our help? Well, why don't you try to see it from a business stand point (because they are a business industry, they are not just a random kpop group). They know shows and ads and songs and everything they do brings them money. Suga even once complained in one of their shows that it's a work day and he can't wait it to be over (hmm..weren't they filming this for fun and not for the money?) So they don't care about army. As they film everything they think what to say so the fans can be pleased. And they mock their fans because of their obssession with them. So it's not hard for them to put their masks because their masks is what cost billions of dollars to bighit! They are not innocent and definitly don't care about our prayers and worries. Everything they show is staged, everything! Someone once said in the thread that all of their songs are checked by the company before they release them. And don't you find it weird how they are sending messages in reverse like ''save us'' and ''help us''. They know fans are gonna get depressed because ''their babies are in danger'' and the truthers will be afraid for their lives and want to help. But we all forget it's just a concept that is RM's fiction.(because he is the main writer in the group) So if RM is telling everyone that bts needs to be saved (knowing his IQ and satanic history and believes) that should be a red flag to everyone who thinks bts needs our help. They are just playing with us!!!
 

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I know they don't want to be innocent! RM warned truthers in his summer notes not to bother them with our believes because they ''still choose to live that way''. All of the members are not religious. So they use religious phrases as a mockery to our God!
Suga said it all in his mixtape.[Lyrics from 'Give it to me'] ''Even if I die I don’t think I’ll live like that'' (without money, fame and alcohol) They use so much hate in their songs, that's why they devide so much people and make them fight for them. They live by the rule ''devide and conquer'' (''Get lost, that’s just the politics within the word “success”) ..Just check out those creepy lyrics from RM (another song about hate and violence) https://genius.com/Rm-do-you-lyrics ..And you tell me they love God deep inside just because they said bless you and listen to satanic ''christian'' songs?
I feel like they did the UNICEF campain so they can remove the hate comments like ''their songs are just about hating on haters'' and then fans will be like ''noo, what are you stupid? They support Unicef and are against violence..you make no sense!'' . I know their strategy..it's not that hard to match the dots. They are the most satanic kpop group ever, they embrace the hate agenda, lgbt agenda, drugs/alcohol and party agenda, the power of I am/ love yourself (satanic) agenda..they learn people how to be selfish and hate others, how to dress up in skirts and high heels if you are a man and wear heavy make up, party hard and ''Money, fame, anything is fine so bring it to me'' , they normalise the satanic party rituals as being part of their ''genius concept'' (in FL), their stage preformances are filled with very subtle satanic symbolism they affect fans' subconscious and don't forget they are aware of it all. RM especially with his 148 IQ is definitly behind most of their satanic work! ..like they are more than satanic, they probably met satan in person and are trying to show fans how great he is (because he can give you fame and money, and you can do whatever you want ..f* God, f* religion..we are a religion, worship us we are your idols!!) That's what's on their mind I don't need to see their staged shows, where the producers and their manager tell them what to say and when to laugh.
You think they are puppets so they need our help? Well, why don't you try to see it from a business stand point (because they are a business industry, they are not just a random kpop group). They know shows and ads and songs and everything they do brings them money. Suga even once complained in one of their shows that it's a work day and he can't wait it to be over (hmm..weren't they filming this for fun and not for the money?) So they don't care about army. As they film everything they think what to say so the fans can be pleased. And they mock their fans because of their obssession with them. So it's not hard for them to put their masks because their masks is what cost billions of dollars to bighit! They are not innocent and definitly don't care about our prayers and worries. Everything they show is staged, everything! Someone once said in the thread that all of their songs are checked by the company before they release them. And don't you find it weird how they are sending messages in reverse like ''save us'' and ''help us''. They know fans are gonna get depressed because ''their babies are in danger'' and the truthers will be afraid for their lives and want to help. But we all forget it's just a concept that is RM's fiction.(because he is the main writer in the group) So if RM is telling everyone that bts needs to be saved (knowing his IQ and satanic history and believes) that should be a red flag to everyone who thinks bts needs our help. They are just playing with us!!!
but what about the thing he said where he stated that the concept is actually real life? like, the concept and characters they are in the story is actually them in real life? could be true, could be not.
 

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Also where is my Daegu boy I loved when I was an army that wrote 20 songs so that bighit can chose 2-3 from. Where is the boy that wrote Nevermind and that stand out changing the topic and saving their albums?

Where is the boy that wanted to produce an entire bts album by himself? Now RM does it all. Is this bc they came to America? Early 2017 was a big change for them all. Why bts doesn't make soulful beautiful songs like hug me tight and spring day?
American elite, is it all that bc of you?
That sick industry can destroy even the most optimistc person out there and in bts case it's pretty obvious because some of them have that empty look in their eyes, especially suga and v.
 

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but what about the thing he said where he stated that the concept is actually real life? like, the concept and characters they are in the story is actually them in real life? could be true, could be not.
Everything is staged. That's part of the plan! How can they make fans so invested in their concepts if they don't say it's similar to their own lives? As I said RM is very thoughtful we shouldn't underestimate his tactics and strategies! He is very evil and smart, that's why the elite loves him! He can decieve everyone.. he is a ''monster'' not just by a stage name lol
 

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Which one of the members doesn't want to be a part of this satanic cult in your opinion guys? And who do you think actually wants to be part of it? In my opinion RM knows very well what he is doing and he probably does it willingly. I would love to hear your opinions though :)
Rm is the only one who looks happy to me. The others are looking lost and have that empty look in their eyes.
 

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according to what I read on twitter youtube deleted like 30 million views of the idol music video lol this is embarrassing, fans are so desperate to break record that they use fake views
I said it before but I really don't see the point. The music video has a lot of views because the fans are streaming again and again but not because the public is interested
 
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according to what I read on twitter youtube deleted like 30 million views of the idol music video lol this is embarrassing, fans are so desperate to break record that they use fake views
I said it before but I readdly don't see the point. The music video has a lot of views because the fans are streaming again and again but not because the public is interested
30 million views??? What a waste of time lol
 

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Also reading the answers of the press conference Hopeful posted I'm the only one who thinks RM and Suga sounds very cocky?
No wonder their fans believe they are superior to other kpop groups when them are seelling themselves like that too

Suga saying SNS is not the reason for their success when their CEO said that was part of his strategy for them (another contradiction)
Also saying their music and lyrics are deep and help the fans, really don't see what's so deep about songs like "idol" lol nothing deep about that mess
 

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30 million views??? What a waste of time lol
yeah army are complaining saying Youtube keeps deleting views, aparently they reached 70 million views like 3 times already :oops: This happens because army are using bots to gain views.
Sometimes I believe this massive popularity is all the fandom doing streaming. It happened in the hot100 too when they debuted on the top10 with fake love but a week later they fell like 30 places because the general public is not really listening to the song

hard to see how popular they really are when the fandom is mass streaming, buying albums and trending hastags every day. I think that gives the impression their popularity is bigger, but in korea other groups like big Bang are better known by the general public
I was surprised when I saw a girl doing an interview in korea asking for BTs military service and people being interviewd only knew them as "those guys who charted on billboard"
 
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Guys pleaseeee listen to me...
Maybe they do want to get saved.. We can't see through their minds and hearts and souls.. They never even let us see their trueselves.. Who knows some of them might be a very good human inside without us or anyone knowing.. Maybe they'll repent and not renew the contracts.. They have enough life ahead to repent and pray.. Give time to family and loved ones now.. Its the end of their era.. If they will stop now.. I think.. They lost nothing yet if their company is responsible for some dark stuff if that happened ..

We should stop talking about they'll be saved or not.. It's none of our business .. Our business here is to discuss about the ritualistic things we see.. And that's all..
I think Tae regrets having joined bighit. He said that one of his talents that he doesn't want his kids to have is singing so they won't be singers.
 
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But from where do you know if their want or not. Tea had a christion song on his spotify playlist. Also J1n had many times says god bless you and my the grace of god be with you also he has said that the army should pray for him. Also the others members said many times bless you. Why they should said bless you if they dont have any believe in god.
Are you in their hearts that you know if they believes or not. Do you know if their are not forced to this ?We both dont know them but you can pray for them for bless. You will not lose anything.
http://instagr.am/p/Bm8YxyZgIGc/ What he said today
 

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Which one of the members doesn't want to be a part of this satanic cult in your opinion guys? And who do you think actually wants to be part of it? In my opinion RM knows very well what he is doing and he probably does it willingly. I would love to hear your opinions though :)
V seems to regret it tho. He seems very pure to me.
And also Jin seems a great guy. Jk might be sad too idk why maybe bc he is the youngest?
 

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according to what I read on twitter youtube deleted like 30 million views of the idol music video lol this is embarrassing, fans are so desperate to break record that they use fake views
I said it before but I really don't see the point. The music video has a lot of views because the fans are streaming again and again but not because the public is interested
Hahah..Also, it's weird how youtube is not accepting bts record yet? That's because youtube knows that the views are fake and they are still making deals with bighit. Bighit will probably shut youtube's mouth with money, otherwise youtube should long ago confirm bts views are fake! And no wonder bighit are not going after youtube and let fans deal with it! Because they know everything is fake. Why is it so important to them to break records after records anyway, when they know it's fake? Like, of course it will boost their ego but why do they think people are blind for all of this? Seriously, these boys make no sense!!!
 

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Hahah..Also, it's weird how youtube is not accepting bts record yet? That's because youtube knows that the views are fake and they are still making deals with bighit. Bighit will probably shut youtube's mouth with money, otherwise youtube should long ago confirm bts views are fake! And no wonder bighit are not going after youtube and let fans deal with it! Because they know everything is fake. Why is it so important to them to break records after records anyway, when they know it's fake? Like, of course it will boost their ego but why do they think people are blind for all of this? Seriously, these boys make no sense!!!
that "fake love" song was probably their most deep song because everything is fake. Breaking records, grammy nominations, etc. Like we are all watching a movie that was planned long ago

It's weird how youtube is not helping them with their agenda but of course they have Taylor Swifft on the other side and she is a big player too
The difference is that Taylor viiews are legit because the general public knows her while BTS is all fandom
If Youtube takes away their record that will be too embarrassing, I don't think they will go that far
 

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( 1:48 min ) When things don't go as planned lol.. RM is very evil. Fans think it's cute but I am genuanly scared of him. He reminds me of that evil characters in anime. Btw his face looks like he got botox around his eye area. He looks different (in a bad way).
 

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yeah army are complaining saying Youtube keeps deleting views, aparently they reached 70 million views like 3 times already :oops: This happens because army are using bots to gain views.
Sometimes I believe this massive popularity is all the fandom doing streaming. It happened in the hot100 too when they debuted on the top10 with fake love but a week later they fell like 30 places because the general public is not really listening to the song

hard to see how popular they really are when the fandom is mass streaming, buying albums and trending hastags every day. I think that gives the impression their popularity is bigger, but in korea other groups like big Bang are better known by the general public
I was surprised when I saw a girl doing an interview in korea asking for BTs military service and people being interviewd only knew them as "those guys who charted on billboard"
Yep the general public doesn't care about kpop anymore, koreans got tired of kpop after 2011 because the industry got out of control and started producing thousands of k-idols and this is why older groups like bigbang and snsd are more known, they lived the golden age of kpop. Groups like exo and bts are very popular with teens and in bts case it's pretty scary because there's bts merchandise everywhere here and it wasn't like this before, it was pretty rare to find anything related to kpop. It seems that with 1D disband the industry needed a new cash cow and they are using army for it.
 
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