Personality Tests

[JoChris]

I actually got both INTJ and INFJ when I took the test. It said there wasn't a big difference between my preferences for F or T so I guess I'm both.

Which one is/ was your study style?
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/intj-learning-style
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/infj-learning-style

 

[mecca]

Which one is/ was your study style?
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/intj-learning-style
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/infj-learning-style

I'm not sure... it depends.

 

[Maes17]

Interesting. And what type did you say you were again?

INFP

Or
Insane, never felt practical

 

[JoChris]

I'm not sure... it depends.

Maybe you're ambidextrous in thinking styles? Now that is an unfair advantage you have compared to the rest of us!

 

[fire009_Flyer]

INFP

Or
Insane, never felt practical

Ah, ok. So your a genuinely nice person

It's interesting how we're both 1 letter apart but each of our functions are pretty opposite. I did a bit of research and found an article that talks about the differences between INFP and INFJ functions, one of the biggest differences being intuition. It seems that INFPs, although they feel different from the world, use it to focus on what could be as opposed to INFJs who feel detached from the world and use intuition to try and see what will be. Do you relate to this at all?

Link: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/2015/10/05/mbti-mistypes-infp-or-infj-knowing-the-difference/

 

[fire009_Flyer]

Your self-description explains why it is important to just acknowledge a pattern of personality a person may have, not assume MBTI is the cause of it.
E.g. family/ personal circumstances may have encouraged you to have a sunny outlook on life. My mother had a very difficult childhood. She assumed negative things will always occur because they actually did in her family.
Maybe her N trait is overdeveloped in a certain way?
I kept away from her when I had been up to mischief alright....

OK, I was gonna reply sooner but got distracted and nearly forgot. Sorry!

That's also why I never judge people.

I definitely think circumstances have an impact. My parents immigrated to America with basically nothing and raised a large family but was still able to homeschool all of us - me until middle of high school - and I think that saved me in a way. I think if I had been sent to public school, I would have hated being locked up and I'm sure I either would have been bullied or would have become a bully due to my personality. Thankfully, that wasn't the case Lol, I still feel for you and your mother. An unbalanced INFJ can be scary for all of us! Things better now?

 

[Maes17]

Ah, ok. So your a genuinely nice person

It's interesting how we're both 1 letter apart but each of our functions are pretty opposite. I did a bit of research and found an article that talks about the differences between INFP and INFJ functions, one of the biggest differences being intuition. It seems that INFPs, although they feel different from the world, use it to focus on what could be as opposed to INFJs who feel detached from the world and use intuition to try and see what will be. Do you relate to this at all?

Link: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/2015/10/05/mbti-mistypes-infp-or-infj-knowing-the-difference/

I can relate a little bit I suppose lol.

 

[Maes17]

I do become a bit sarcastic in fixing errors.
Empathical.
Used to be. As I got older, I kinda got a little greedy. Especially becoming a parent. Changed my outlook on somethings.

I do try to stay true to myself however. So there are traits that I do identify

 

[JoChris]

OK, I was gonna reply sooner but got distracted and nearly forgot. Sorry!

That's also why I never judge people.

I definitely think circumstances have an impact. My parents immigrated to America with basically nothing and raised a large family but was still able to homeschool all of us - me until middle of high school - and I think that saved me in a way. I think if I had been sent to public school, I would have hated being locked up and I'm sure I either would have been bullied or would have become a bully due to my personality. Thankfully, that wasn't the case Lol, I still feel for you and your mother. An unbalanced INFJ can be scary for all of us! Things better now?

I feared you being an INFJ you would sense the undercurrent despite my attempts to keep the mood light.

No our relationship is non-existent now. My husband won't let me see her or keep in contact in her for my mental health's sake. The last time I saw her was at my sister's wedding and we kept our interaction very polite but the tension was extreme.

The 4 children have all cut her off to a certain degree. Me completely, and my much younger brother very distant- my first younger sister has most contact with her, my second younger sister has meetings with her in public only when my mother visits her.

In short - she gave herself so much permission to unload her emotions onto her children, she is pretty well unable to control herself UNLESS there are potential observers about to see her behaviour.

Imagine a very high functioning woman, successful social worker but at the same time a very fragile Narcissist personality with borderline tendencies. INFJ is merely the icing on the cake with her. Her introvert tendencies prevent her from seeking any public attention.



So imagine at my mother's core - she has become a rotten apple. She is soft hearted enough to be deeply compassionate for strangers, but due to deep inner bruising which she did not want to have cut out via counselling etc. because of embarrassment (who with a heart would judge someone still grieving for their mother since they were 6 because they were never allowed to mourn like they should?!!!) all those who get too close to her get affected badly by her extreme negativity and deep neediness.

I debated whether to send this to you privately or not but I figured I have been pretty open now, I shouldn't be secretive because there are still a few regular contributors on this thread who have interacted with me too.

 

[fire009_Flyer]

I do become a bit sarcastic in fixing errors.
Empathical.
Used to be. As I got older, I kinda got a little greedy. Especially becoming a parent. Changed my outlook on somethings.

I do try to stay true to myself however. So there are traits that I do identify

People change and that's natural. I think that's why the MBTI fascinates me. We're assigned four letters to our personality but the truth is, first and foremost, we are all unique individuals who cannot be boxed into simple definitions. Still, INFJ describes me pretty spot on so I find it pretty cool.

 

[fire009_Flyer]

I feared you being an INFJ you would sense the undercurrent despite my attempts to keep the mood light.

No our relationship is non-existent now. My husband won't let me see her or keep in contact in her for my mental health's sake. The last time I saw her was at my sister's wedding and we kept our interaction very polite but the tension was extreme.

The 4 children have all cut her off to a certain degree. Me completely, and my much younger brother very distant- my first younger sister has most contact with her, my second younger sister has meetings with her in public only when my mother visits her.

In short - she gave herself so much permission to unload her emotions onto her children, she is pretty well unable to control herself UNLESS there are potential observers about to see her behaviour.

Imagine a very high functioning woman, successful social worker but at the same time a very fragile Narcissist personality with borderline tendencies. INFJ is merely the icing on the cake with her. Her introvert tendencies prevent her from seeking any public attention.

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So imagine at my mother's core - she has become a rotten apple. She is soft hearted enough to be deeply compassionate for strangers, but due to deep inner bruising which she did not want to have cut out via counselling etc. because of embarrassment (who with a heart would judge someone still grieving for their mother since they were 6 because they were never allowed to mourn like they should?!!!) all those who get too close to her get affected badly by her extreme negativity and deep neediness.

I debated whether to send this to you privately or not but I figured I have been pretty open now, I shouldn't be secretive because there are still a few regular contributors on this thread who have interacted with me too.

Have a feeling you've resolved your relationship mostly but I still gotta say I'm so sorry to hear what happened. I also didn't mean to pry so I'm really sorry if I put you in an uncomfortable position or anything. You all obviously went through a lot. Like all personality types, the best manifests the best traits of that type, the worst manifest the worst, and with the INFJ, an extremely unhealthy type is a nightmare which I shudder at imagining. I can't imagine adding narcissism and borderline disorders to that mix! I'm glad you got out of it alive. I know I'm young so I don't know if this feels right to say this (<-- that's me overthinking) but I think your a genuinely sincere and kind-hearted person and I'm really glad we could talk. Thank you so much for sharing something so personal. God bless you and your family!

 

[JoChris]

Have a feeling you've resolved your relationship mostly but I still gotta say I'm so sorry to hear what happened. I also didn't mean to pry so I'm really sorry if I put you in an uncomfortable position or anything. You all obviously went through a lot. Like all personality types, the best manifests the best traits of that type, the worst manifest the worst, and with the INFJ, an extremely unhealthy type is a nightmare which I shudder at imagining. I can't imagine adding narcissism and borderline disorders to that mix! I'm glad you got out of it alive. I know I'm young so I don't know if this feels right to say this (<-- that's me overthinking) but I think your a genuinely sincere and kind-hearted person and I'm really glad we could talk. Thank you so much for sharing something so personal. God bless you and your family!

I had a feeling you were younger than me so I made sure I didn't go too deeply into the subject. Well, I think you sound very well-balanced so your parents did a fine job with you.

I hope the short description of my mother is a cautionary tale, especially for NF people - if you have extreme self-awareness of some personal faults, weaknesses and any other inner struggles - do NOT give in to them. Identify what needs to be done, seek help from friends, family, or even professionals if you need help (like my mother should have).

"A stitch in time saves nine". When you work through your own weaknesses, you can help others, even become an inspiration for others.

I know I will never be an extrovert. That does not give me an excuse to withdraw from people completely.
I know I am extremely sensitive. That does not give me an excuse to dwell on past hurts or demand people treat me with kid gloves.
I know I will always have a melancholy temperament. That does not mean I have an excuse to look for sad movies, focus on what is wrong with the world, and look for reasons to be miserable.

I am sure people can fill in the gaps for themselves.

 

[fire009_Flyer]

I had a feeling you were younger than me so I made sure I didn't go too deeply into the subject. Well, I think you sound very well-balanced so your parents did a fine job with you.

I hope the short description of my mother is a cautionary tale, especially for NF people - if you have extreme self-awareness of some personal faults, weaknesses and any other inner struggles - do NOT give in to them. Identify what needs to be done, seek help from friends, family, or even professionals if you need help (like my mother should have).

"A stitch in time saves nine". When you work through your own weaknesses, you can help others, even become an inspiration for others.

I know I will never be an extrovert. That does not give me an excuse to withdraw from people completely.
I know I am extremely sensitive. That does not give me an excuse to dwell on past hurts or demand people treat me with kid gloves.
I know I will always have a melancholy temperament. That does not mean I have an excuse to look for sad movies, focus on what is wrong with the world, and look for reasons to be miserable.

I am sure people can fill in the gaps for themselves.

Thank you for bearing with me I still have a long way to grow but I've learned that 1) I have grown a lot and 2) self-improvement is a never-ending process but that's no reason to despair. Rather, it's something to be excited about and look forward (at least that's what I still think).

I was personally inspired by Loe Tolstoy who once said, "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Being an INFJ, it was my "child's dream" to change the world ever since I was really little but when I heard this quote, my thoughts went, maybe the way to changing the world was by changing myself? I mean, I did have emotional problems and was kinda immature...I thought maybe if I couldn't even fix myself, how could I fix the world? (yeah, I was a serious kid lol) I don't really know if that's "right" but ever since then, I've worked on changing myself first before trying to change the world. That is also how my life motto became, simply, "No Excuses."

I know I'm an introvert but that's no excuse. I also know that I can work harder on my social skills and make friends.
I know I'm very sensitive but that's no excuse. I also know that I am very empathetic and that that is a gift I can choose to use.
I know I'm extremely emotional but that's no excuse. I also know that emotions are beautiful colors I can use to see the world through.
I know I am physically, medically weak but that's no excuse. I also know I can live a healthier life style and become stronger.

So I will!

 

[JoChris]

Thank you for bearing with me I still have a long way to grow but I've learned that 1) I have grown a lot and 2) self-improvement is a never-ending process but that's no reason to despair. Rather, it's something to be excited about and look forward (at least that's what I still think).

I was personally inspired by Loe Tolstoy who once said, "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Being an INFJ, it was my "child's dream" to change the world ever since I was really little but when I heard this quote, my thoughts went, maybe the way to changing the world was by changing myself? I mean, I did have emotional problems and was kinda immature...I thought maybe if I couldn't even fix myself, how could I fix the world? (yeah, I was a serious kid lol) I don't really know if that's "right" but ever since then, I've worked on changing myself first before trying to change the world. That is also how my life motto became, simply, "No Excuses."

I know I'm an introvert but that's no excuse. I also know that I can work harder on my social skills and make friends.
I know I'm very sensitive but that's no excuse. I also know that I am very empathetic and that that is a gift I can choose to use.
I know I'm extremely emotional but that's no excuse. I also know that emotions are beautiful colors I can use to see the world through.
I know I am physically, medically weak but that's no excuse. I also know I can live a healthier life style and become stronger.

So I will!

Well as a child of an INFJ mother (who was also too hard on herself as well as too soft in other areas) I have this to add for you:

*Identify weaknesses which can be changed, and accept weaknesses which cannot (she wished she wasn't so short many times).
Be kind to yourself. No-one will ever be perfect in this life-time. https://introvertdear.com/news/infj-self-improvement-tips/

*Remember your feelings of being different to other people are true, because you are. You are especially gifted with intuition and so you have to remind yourself you may be noticing details nearly impossible to be sensed by vast majority of people (i.e. non NT/NF people).

*Accept your personal differences, be true to yourself, remind yourself that not everyone will like the true you, just like you don't like some people.

*Learn to use your intuition skills carefully/ with pure motives, as your conscience will punish you severely when you act on them prematurely/ abuse its powers.

* Learn to laugh, and see the silly side of life. You also deserve to enjoy what you have received in life as your share, just like everyone else.

* figure out how to develop some of INFP's positive traits - you don't have to stay in a mental box of your own creation.

 

[Maes17]

Thank you for bearing with me I still have a long way to grow but I've learned that 1) I have grown a lot and 2) self-improvement is a never-ending process but that's no reason to despair. Rather, it's something to be excited about and look forward (at least that's what I still think).

I was personally inspired by Loe Tolstoy who once said, "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Being an INFJ, it was my "child's dream" to change the world ever since I was really little but when I heard this quote, my thoughts went, maybe the way to changing the world was by changing myself? I mean, I did have emotional problems and was kinda immature...I thought maybe if I couldn't even fix myself, how could I fix the world? (yeah, I was a serious kid lol) I don't really know if that's "right" but ever since then, I've worked on changing myself first before trying to change the world. That is also how my life motto became, simply, "No Excuses."

I know I'm an introvert but that's no excuse. I also know that I can work harder on my social skills and make friends.
I know I'm very sensitive but that's no excuse. I also know that I am very empathetic and that that is a gift I can choose to use.
I know I'm extremely emotional but that's no excuse. I also know that emotions are beautiful colors I can use to see the world through.
I know I am physically, medically weak but that's no excuse. I also know I can live a healthier life style and become stronger.

So I will!

There is always room for growth even as you get older.
Good to see some of the teens aknowledge that. I consider myself wiser in a sense now than I was 10 years ago, but I still have plenty of room for growth personally. I'm always striving to be a better husband and father first. Whatever life throws at me I also deal with a lot more calm. When I was in high school and probably well in my early 20's. I acted more on impulse. Being in my late 20's after being out in the world more, having a family. I find everything more manageable and balanced. Less impulsive reaction lol. Weird how I mellowed out so much. Less naive as well

But since your still young. My advice. Join clubs and sports. They give you lessons than just winning/losing. I credit a lot of my mental toughness to my playing football and ice hockey. With your noggin, you'll go very far in life.

You are not mentally/physically/medically weak as you think.
And again....good luck this year!

 

[JoChris]

 

[DesertRose]

Thanks for all your valuable responses and for keeping the thread going!
Okay back to the 4 temperaments test. Posted stuff about this early on in the thread.

You can take it here.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/O4TS/

Got the same result as last time:

Type description

Your temperament is

phlegmatic
The phlegmatic temperament is fundamentally relaxed and quiet, ranging from warmly attentive to lazily sluggish. Phlegmatics tend to be content with themselves and are kind. They are accepting and affectionate. They may be receptive and shy and often prefer stability to uncertainty and change. They are consistent, relaxed, calm, rational, curious, and observant, qualities that make them good administrators. They can also be passive-aggressive.
(sanguine as a second)

So I saw this yesterday about exercise tactics from a choleric guy for phlegmatics and his tips are spot on and might work! (His wife is phlegmatic)
I was always surprised at why exercise is not a sticking point for moi .

Wonder how many phelgmatics are married to Cholerics….

Just for the record this test gives us ugly unattractive names. who wants to say I am phlegmatic or melancholic?

 

[DesertRose]

Aware that we are unaware?

 

[elsbet]

I'm a Moody Know-it-All Emo Stressed f*cker. True story.

Iirc INFJ is supposed to be rare.. but on internet forums, they seem to be popular. Makes sense though.

 

[AspiringSoul]

My birthday also is within that same period.

As far as INTP and relationship........

I don't really do stuff like think about "how am I in relationships" and things like that. That's more stuff women think about. I'm not really thinking about stuff like that.

But I tried to think about it.

There was this song that used to get played when I was super young..... C-Murder "Down for my n*****"..... I thought of that. People when I was a kid used to play that kind of music.

I don't listen to music but that song is pretty much how I feel as far as people. I remember that song..... C-Murder basically says "F*** them other n***** cuz I'm down for my n*****" over and over again...... the whole chorus is basically that phrase over and over again.....

that song..... that message is so beautiful and profound to me. It really speaks to me.*

Because that's pretty much how I feel towards humanity.

As far as INTPological studies....

firstly, I don't think INTP is necessarily a nerd. I can't stand that term being used because I want to read books. I love books, I like to read but I don't call myself a "nerd" or think that applies to me. I have nothing to do with that. That's a specific culture and I have nothing to do with it. Nerd is like.... someone who is super, overly obsessed with anime, with Star Trek, with stuff which has nothing to do with real life. But Marx- for example. I can't picture Marx being called a "nerd". How are we using this word? Because nerd equals someone who has no social skills, who is into a bunch of irrelevant stuff and who is dependent on their parents. Now if we say someone who knows way too much about Star Trek who fits that description is a nerd- that's the term properly being used. But to say Mao Zedong is a nerd- is incorrect. People use that to paint whoever is intellectual. And when the word is used like that, it really is something used to promote the dumbing down of culture. I'm interested in things that people consider intellectual but I don't think that means I'm someone who has no social skills. My ideal is not some lame professor but someone like Che Guevara who was an intellectual but not just an intellectual. He actually lived his ideas. I mention Marx, Mao, Che, etc. because these are not Star Trek obsessives and who would not be properly called nerds. Nerds are people who live in a fantasy world and who obsess over things that have nothing to do with real life and who aren't even considered with real life. They're content to live in a dungeons and dragons world. Someone like Marx or Che.... they studied ideas so that they could actually implement these ideas. A distinction should be made between a Star Trek obsessive and someone who, say, is a scholar of Islam. Because if we accept that a "nerd" is someone who is intellectual- would it be proper to say Islamic scholars are nerds? Or that anyone intellectual is a nerd? And equivalate them with lame Star Trek obsessive types? But you see just how looking at C-Murder's use of language, shows how he feels about the world; how language is used in this instance reveals how anti-intellectual culture is.

That rant isn't directed against anyone- just something against that word since I saw it mentioned in relation to INTPs.

I'm not defending all INTPS. For all I know, there are INTPs who are stuck in fantasy worlds. I have no idea.

However, me myself- I am interested in learning, in knowledge and in truth- and of course I inherently believe that truth is objective. Society is degenerate. I showed it with the thread about the feminist dog-molestation. The plot gets thicker- because of how downwards the society is moving- one of the big things there is an emphasis on, from society towards its members is: "shut your mouth".

So a bunch of INTPS who cares about no one's feelings and who care only about the truth- we are dangerous. We are like a priest-caste. We are like a priest-caste (except in the case of any lame instances where they obsess over useless stuff like anime) who represent Objective Truth.

So we get attacked because we represent Objective Truth. And this I'm not saying against anybody- I'm saying because INTPS are depicted negatively for that reason. Look at how we're shown in that picture in the thread earlier. We get attacked because we're a threat. Because we're too real.

Support your local INTP.



*one reason (among others) I mention that is because.... I am not a person who is about criticizing people I'm close to. I really think I'm loyal almost to a fault. If it's a minor issue, I don't think I'm a person who is critical or anything like that. With people I'm close to- I do believe in covering up things, if they do something. I'm not the unfeeling stereotype that INTPs are portrayed as. I do tend to think in a cold and logical way but I don't only think in that way and I'm actually protective of people and I don't think I'm harsh towards people I'm close to. My brother for example.... I might mildly disagree with him about something but that's about it. I don't really criticize him. I definitely intend to be razor-sharp and precise in my thinking but that doesn't mean I can't be gentle with people I'm close to. My personality doesn't really translate over text- people can't detect the tones I use. I don't think anyone who knows me in real life would say I'm harsh or critical. They might be hostile towards me over my beliefs but people have tended to describe me as calming and relaxing. I think I'm peaceful and calm and I think most people would say the same about me. Introversion versus extroverted..... I'm neither. I don't believe I'm introverted at all. I think I just might look introverted because I like to have a small circle, stay inside my small circle and ignore everyone outside of that circle. If I like people, great. If not, I'm not interested in hanging around them. I don't like most people. I don't believe all people are equal and maybe "introverts" are just low-key aristocrats.

You realise personality types is a concept that developed out of a metaphysical system that included astrology? ie the 4 elements, 4 seasons, 4 humors, unani medicine...astrology's 12 houses are broken into those 4 and so forth. It all comes from as

You asked me about astrology last night in an obvious attempt to discredit me as a non-muslim.
I could easily answer you but i know you have an iq of 50 at best and respond with takfiri copy paste shit.