BTS discussion thread

[sculmatee]

all of them are tbh, i feel like they all need major help, both physically and mentally

Right...also spiritual help for sure. Really, it's like every single day they get even more Satanic with all the symbolism and hand signs.

 

[mimis]

Right...also spiritual help for sure. Really, it's like every single day they get even more Satanic with all the symbolism and hand signs.

Unfotunately all the members are not religious. Plus I don't think anyone will let them just leave the group. It's impossible at that level of masonary. Even when they stop making music they will still not live a normal life and will have to attend masonic cult meetings and doing rituals if they want to keep the money and their lives. They will be happy if they survive. Now they are save but when the new group debutes (which I heard bighit is already preparing) they can get rid of some of the members as a sacrifice for the new group. That is my fear..because usually in America many celebrities became fameous because of the death of others. And you see now with so much sacrifices of celebrities going on in Korea k-pop star is not the dream of a lifetime anymore!

 

[Cocomj]

You might not feel like you have God's spirit but it's not something anyone earns or deserves through being perfect or through not sinning. We receive his spirit because we are imperfect and have asked His forgiveness. That's why I said your heart is the most important thing. Dreams, I believe can also come from the devil or even from our own conciousness. I've had plenty of dreams where I did terrible things I would never do in real life and felt disgusted with myself when I woke up, wondering if there was something wrong with me. See, the devil will lie to you and tell you that you are not worth saving until the very end but it's a lie because he doesn't want anyone to know God's love and grace. There are murderers, members of the occult, people who've hurt others and stolen and raped that have fallen before God and asked His forgiveness and now they're unrecognisable as people. That's why no one but God can judge because no one but God has the power to forgive and purify our souls. If you were truly beyond redemption you wouldn't feel anything, you wouldn't feel bad and I believe the same is true for the boys as well. Don't feel like you're burdening anyone, I haven't been a member of this thread for very long (been a lurker from Day1 tho lol) but there are so many supportive people here who are very encouraging. If you ever feel down or depressed, feel free to message me. I'm sorry if I'm going on too long lol, I don't wanna spam this thread and didn't wanna post again until I complete my theory (difficult becuse real life is getting in the way so I'm quite busy ) but DM me if you still need to talk and I'll try my best to help. Also, I'm ok, just going through something but it's fine, I can handle it.

The heart is the most important thing ? (you gonna make me cry omg )
I agree in dreams it can come from the devil and stuff (tho wierd thing i never hurt anyone in my dreams i mostly was happy, helped people and or talking with people from all walks of life and also being sad for them or show compassion to them so idk )(i had a few nightmares but rarely lol)
It's not your fault tho and i don't think it would come from your uncouscious because you don't seem like a person who would do that (judging by the way you talk it's impossible )
I hate the devil he is a freaking liar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You mean if you are redemption you can't feel guilt ? (i do feel a lot of guilt and i do hope it's the same for the boys )
Lol long time lurker but not long time member XD
I've never felt people who are accepting me for who i am so that's why i always feel like a burden but i see that you guys might be the 1st people to be the opposite :'D
I agree the people in this thread are so awesome (my heart like why are you guys so kind )
Thanks for the offer in dms i will definetely do so if i feel like this again ( i don't want to bother you too much tho so don't forget to tell me when you are busy )
I'll pray for you while you go through that thing stay strong :3
(me neither i didn't want to comment but i see many people are still here and aren't taking breaks at all and that was worrying me a lot )

 

[Cocomj]

Faith is for everyone, the question is will you accept it? When Jesus was on earth, he didn’t spent his time mingling with the ‘pure’ people or the rich. He spent his time with the criminals, the people who knew they did wrong and who are happy to to do something in return to penance for their sins.

And for you, you are not bad. We are all sinners. If you take one step and accept God wholeheartedly you will be save. Because our sins has been paid when Jesus was crucified. Life experience can lead you to all sorts of belief. Your connection to God has been muddled up with doubts and I know that that’s a big factor. Even for me that applies as well.

God encourages us to come to him as we are. You don’t need to be clean to come to him because he will give us clean clothes to wear.

God also likes to test our faith to see if we are ready. And he definitely, definitely do not curse anyone who believes him.

Take your time but not too long. If you feel like travelling I think that’s a good idea because it will widen your perspective. It will give a rooted experience that can lead to a life changing course.

I'm trying so hard to have faith rn (i have a lot of bad thoughts still ingrained in my mind so that is getting in the way )
Take my time but no too long what do you mean ? :0
Yeah i would love to travel :3
doubts are what has lead me here in the 1st place so i also feel bad for doubting God bc i can't see him
It's true we are indeed all sinners no one is perfect bc if we were we wouldn't be here (thanks adam and eve lol )

 

[mimis]

Omg guys, I got recommended to the new Loona mv on youtube. How is that even happening? I am not following them!!!

 

[Cocomj]

Suddenly jumping into bible is not a good idea, I assure it will not be helpful at all. I remember when I was younger we were given visual aids to understand the context of the bible, and slowly debunk the events. I think it will be more helpful if you starts with leaflets and visual books from mormons because they have good ones. Starts something from small, then move on to something else when you understand what you're reading.

i will try that then
Thanks

 

[Cocomj]

ok guys i haven't done my theory yet but look what i found (i knew maze runner had some illu symbo )
https://truthscrambler.com/2018/02/23/occult-symbolism-in-the-maze-runner/

(this one is kinda interesting too )
ok bye lol

 

[sculmatee]

Unfotunately all the members are not religious. Plus I don't think anyone will let them just leave the group. It's impossible at that level of masonary. Even when they stop making music they will still not live a normal life and will have to attend masonic cult meetings and doing rituals if they want to keep the money and their lives. They will be happy if they survive. Now they are save but when the new group debutes (which I heard bighit is already preparing) they can get rid of some of the members as a sacrifice for the new group. That is my fear..because usually in America many celebrities became fameous because of the death of others. And you see now with so much sacrifices of celebrities going on in Korea k-pop star is not the dream of a lifetime anymore!

They might already be religious though, they could definitely be following 'God'. I keep in mind that anyone associated with the elite consider God as Satan. Their god is Satan, and that's who they follow and worship. About the sacrifice thing... I look at their past MV's. There is so many theories that Jin is dead in certain MV's, and maybe that was a warning already? Even some MV's with Taehyung being a killer and stabbing someone? Maybe that was a hint that he has or will make sacrifices for fame.. makes me think of his grandparents.

 

[Maggieca]

Remember @DarkAndWild's fantastic post about Robert Johnson and the similarities between his Faustian deal with the devil and BT*S?

(Really amazing job on this btw)

And last month I wrote my first real analysis on Sug@ and the significance of the name Agust D, the songs on the album and the significance of dates in August:

I found out that Robert Johnson died on the 16 August 1938.
Same date (16 August 2016) that Agust D was released. And Robert Johnson was 27 years old (27 Club). That's supposedly the age of sacrifice, and with all the numerology and commemoration that goes into dates with the elite, Idk I just have a feeling something might happen.

thank you for this post, I've been away for a long time so I missed a lot of theories. The analysis of Yoon-gi solo video is so accurate, and that weird whistling that can be heard for no reason

About his solo mixtape, there is a song called "give it to me" that also sounds like he made a deal, and he is asking that "person" he made the deal with to give him all the fame and money

some lyrics:

"gi give it to me
Money, honor, whatever it may be bring it to me
fame flash light
gi give it to me (gi give it to me)
I don’t mind whatever it may be so bring it to me

I can’t live like a dog when I’m born to be a tiger
Pour me whatever you have, liquor, money or honor
I never beg for it,
Whatever you’re holding in your hands, I have no desire
I only do what I have to do, law of jungle?
The political world within the word “success”

You guys keep going after each other’s throats
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that

Don’t touch me, don’t even put your hand on me
You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily
one for the money and two for the show
fame flash light gi give it to me"

I don't know but those lyrics are disturbing especially this: You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily

also this was the cover of his album:

we have the clear one eye
Every man dies but not every man lives
he calls himself the "bad guy"

 

[Maggieca]

B!T!S really wrote a lot about gaining wealth, naming products this or that and shaming haters, as tho' this is the way of life.

Do they really think their haters have so much time envying what they have ? Aside from theories, this is the type of people I would run away from in real life. I have no time to hate you and I certainly don't care what you have purchased in life.

true. they say it's because bt-s have a "hip hop" concept and the agresive songs bragging about money and popularity are part of that style of music but I don't see the conection with this group having a campaign to "end violence" and at the same time writting agresive lyrics wishing their haters all the worst luck in the world

 

[mimis]

thank you for this post, I've been away for a long time so I missed a lot of theories. The analysis of Yoon-gi solo video is so accurate, and that weird whistling that can be heard for no reason

About his solo mixtape, there is a song called "give it to me" that also sounds like he made a deal, and he is asking that "person" he made the deal with to give him all the fame and money

some lyrics:

"gi give it to me
Money, honor, whatever it may be bring it to me
fame flash light
gi give it to me (gi give it to me)
I don’t mind whatever it may be so bring it to me

I can’t live like a dog when I’m born to be a tiger
Pour me whatever you have, liquor, money or honor
I never beg for it,
Whatever you’re holding in your hands, I have no desire
I only do what I have to do, law of jungle?
The political world within the word “success”

You guys keep going after each other’s throats
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that

Don’t touch me, don’t even put your hand on me
You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily
one for the money and two for the show
fame flash light gi give it to me"

You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily

Is he threatening someone? Or may be he has split personalities from the MK and he is fighting with himself? And why is there so much hate in their lyrics? They really get possesed by the devil when writing those lyrics. May be he has a demon instead of alter ego??
I feel like they are trying to confuse their fans with this campain ''against violence'' and then threatening people with murder in their songs. Also Suga seems pretty sinister because whenever he appears in the bts mvs he is always surrounded by fire. And he is smiling evilly. May be he knows he made a deadly deal with the devil but he doesn't care if he's gonna burn up because he loves fame and money. And he seems to be very egoistic as well, not caring about people fighting and killing each other
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that
Also the political world is all about ''divide and conquer''. Is that what he is preaching by?
The political world within the word “success”
He seems to be showing his real face in this song! So selfish and cruel!!!

 

[Cocomj]

Got an idea : (if we are maybe spyed on here is the message i put ) (i have to add a thing or two lol )
우리는 가면의 뒤에 진실을 알고 있다
예쁜 광경이이다 그것 아니다?
그러나 너희 중 몇은 그것을 수행했다
당신이 마지막 기회를 여기에서 원하는 경우에:
당신은 그녀와 내려가고 싶은가 또는 당신은 진짜 신의제안을 알고 싶은가?
당신에게 숨겨지은 것
우리는 마술 상점에서 당신의 문일 것이다
너무 늦지 않다 당신이 정말 누구인지 알기 위하여
(Ps: 우리는 2명의 지도자에 관하여 알고 있다
주목되는 1개)
(당신의 사람들은 당신에게 일어난다 속이고 있다
당신은 죽지 않을 것이다)


안녕…. (우리는 사기에 관하여 알고 있다 그러나 상관 없습니다
저희에게 도움을 위한 표시를 주십시오
그리고 우리는 우리가 할 수 있는 것처럼 빨리 반응할 것이다)

 

[Cocomj]

Is he threatening someone? Or may be he has split personalities from the MK and he is fighting with himself? And why is there so much hate in their lyrics? They really get possesed by the devil when writing those lyrics. May be he has a demon instead of alter ego??
I feel like they are trying to confuse their fans with this campain ''against violence'' and then threatening people with murder in their songs. Also Suga seems pretty sinister because whenever he appears in the bts mvs he is always surrounded by fire. And he is smiling evilly. May be he knows he made a deadly deal with the devil but he doesn't care if he's gonna burn up because he loves fame and money. And he seems to be very egoistic as well, not caring about people fighting and killing each other
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that
Also the political world is all about ''divide and conquer''. Is that what he is preaching by?
The political world within the word “success”
He seems to be showing his real face in this song! So selfish and cruel!!!

This dude is

 

[sadaf]

Omg guys, I got recommended to the new Loona mv on youtube. How is that even happening? I am not following them!!!

creepy... :/

 

[Hopeful]

Got an idea : (if we are maybe spyed on here is the message i put ) (i have to add a thing or two lol )
우리는 가면의 뒤에 진실을 알고 있다
예쁜 광경이이다 그것 아니다?
그러나 너희 중 몇은 그것을 수행했다
당신이 마지막 기회를 여기에서 원하는 경우에:
당신은 그녀와 내려가고 싶은가 또는 당신은 진짜 신의제안을 알고 싶은가?
당신에게 숨겨지은 것
우리는 마술 상점에서 당신의 문일 것이다
너무 늦지 않다 당신이 정말 누구인지 알기 위하여
(Ps: 우리는 2명의 지도자에 관하여 알고 있다
주목되는 1개)
(당신의 사람들은 당신에게 일어난다 속이고 있다
당신은 죽지 않을 것이다)


안녕…. (우리는 사기에 관하여 알고 있다 그러나 상관 없습니다
저희에게 도움을 위한 표시를 주십시오
그리고 우리는 우리가 할 수 있는 것처럼 빨리 반응할 것이다)

I need translations

 

[Hopeful]

thank you for this post, I've been away for a long time so I missed a lot of theories. The analysis of Yoon-gi solo video is so accurate, and that weird whistling that can be heard for no reason

About his solo mixtape, there is a song called "give it to me" that also sounds like he made a deal, and he is asking that "person" he made the deal with to give him all the fame and money

some lyrics:

"gi give it to me
Money, honor, whatever it may be bring it to me
fame flash light
gi give it to me (gi give it to me)
I don’t mind whatever it may be so bring it to me

I can’t live like a dog when I’m born to be a tiger
Pour me whatever you have, liquor, money or honor
I never beg for it,
Whatever you’re holding in your hands, I have no desire
I only do what I have to do, law of jungle?
The political world within the word “success”

You guys keep going after each other’s throats
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that

Don’t touch me, don’t even put your hand on me
You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily
one for the money and two for the show
fame flash light gi give it to me"

I don't know but those lyrics are disturbing especially this: You might end up in a coffin if you keep fooling around sloppily

also this was the cover of his album:

we have the clear one eye
Every man dies but not every man lives
he calls himself the "bad guy"

And not to forget agust guy is Blonde..

And the real stage name is inverted agus = suga

 

[Secret149]

am I the only one who thinks there’s s’thing else behind those new eyes ?

 

[Hopeful]

am I the only one who thinks there’s s’thing else behind those new eyes ?

This is the eyes of an alter persona.. It comes out on stage in front of millions of people who just wave their lightsticks in awe while looking at you.. Which you are given orders to control ..
These such eyes and faces trying to show dominance on stage showing who's in control are seen among almost all the artists.. Examples b3y0nce... Conspiracy theorists on YouTube made videos on that on her.. Saying that she gets possessed by a d3m0n on stage.. Which she have given a name Sasha fi3rce

 

[Maggieca]

Is he threatening someone? Or may be he has split personalities from the MK and he is fighting with himself? And why is there so much hate in their lyrics? They really get possesed by the devil when writing those lyrics. May be he has a demon instead of alter ego??
I feel like they are trying to confuse their fans with this campain ''against violence'' and then threatening people with murder in their songs. Also Suga seems pretty sinister because whenever he appears in the bts mvs he is always surrounded by fire. And he is smiling evilly. May be he knows he made a deadly deal with the devil but he doesn't care if he's gonna burn up because he loves fame and money. And he seems to be very egoistic as well, not caring about people fighting and killing each other
Yeah, right ass**** yeah, yeah keep fighting
I don’t care if you keep digging your own grave or wasting yourself
So please continue living like that
Also the political world is all about ''divide and conquer''. Is that what he is preaching by?
The political world within the word “success”
He seems to be showing his real face in this song! So selfish and cruel!!!

he actually did a video for this song, and he has fire all around him:

at the begginging his hands are tied to a chair you also can hear a lady singing in the back (in another language) I wouldn't be surprised if it's some satanic message he put there (he produced the song too)
during the whole video he is looking kinda crazy and destroying things. looks like his alter ego August D is very agressive and angry at the world

 

[kukitae]

I'm learning korean so i might be able to help you one day (not learning for them btw
i'm just learning bc i'm interested in asian languages a lot and japanese and korean are the easiest so far ) (chinese,tawainese,etc... looks like a pain in the as* lol)

omg really? Do you know how excited I am right now?! >o< I have interest in korean and japanese but it doesn't go well because I don't know how to start the basic do you really mean to help me?