So your your take on that verse is he was fully God and fully man, at the same time and chose to be full man and repress his Godly powers and rely on The Father for aid?
It just seems like you guys try to justify these contradictions with more contradictions and ignore the bigger picture.
Is Jesus apart from the Father? I thought they were one? This verse clearly uses the term ascribed which doesn't prove Jesus and the Father to have equal status. The ascribed is lower than the ascriber, as the ascribed doesn't posses the full capabilities to exert what they please.
How about the garden of gethsemane? Doesn't Jesus pray to the father? Now I know you'll argue he was fully man at the time and not using his Godly powers, but it clearly depicts an image of Jesus awaiting an answer or response from the Father. If the Godhead is indeed true , wouldn't the image painted be of Jesus already aware of the answer to his prayer?
So this verse
https://bible.org/seriespage/70-garden-gethsema and Acts 2:22 both clearly show Jesus doesn't have superior knowledge and doesn't have the knowledge of the unseen. His abilities are limited, pointing to the idea that he was a man. He can't have lived a dualistic existence, choosing to be human whilst being a God.
Even if I entertain this idea, I can't accept Godhead as truth. How can God and Jesus be equal, if they don't both possess the same qualities and knowledge?
There are no contradictions about Jesus. The Bible is very clear that I don't have to justify anything nor am I ignoring anything. Its you who is ignoring what we are saying.
Did you not understand what I wrote about the Godhead? I used simple English, the only English I know. I already explained that the Godhead are three separate and distinct beings who have existed together from eternity past.They are all equally God and are one in nature, character, and purpose. I gave the example of how God talks about marriage in the Bible. He says two shall become one. Are there not two individual and distinct people in the marriage? They have different roles but should be one in nature, character and purpose. That is what makes them one.
Jesus was of a lower status than God the father here on earth because He chose to be for our sakes. Also one of the reasons He came to this world was to show us how to live our lives according to His word. We too should rely on God solely and use Jesus as our example. In order for Jesus' plsn of salvation to work, He had to be fully human to show that His laws were not burdensome to us and we could actually live life the way He did through Him and by His example. He basically switched off His divinity for our sakes. Satan was watching and tempting Jesus to get Him to fail His plan for our salvation. A little slip up and we would all be doomed. Here is part of what I posted before.
"If Jesus had failed to overcome the tempter in the same nature we have, and by the same means available to us, the devil would have proven that obedience is indeed an impossible requirement. Satan understood very well that Jesus could not use His divine power to save Himself and to save man at the same time. This is what made the test such a severe and agonizing experience for Christ."
Jesus has superior knowledge of everything because He is God. If you read
Luke 22:39-46 you would know He was under a huge burden. A burden such as no one in this world or heaven will ever have to bear. He knew He had to die on the cross for our sins but it weighed so heavy on Him. Taking on the sins of the world is something we can't as humans even begin to fathom. The pressure was too much that in
vs 44 it says,
"And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." He sweated blood, that's how much pressure He was under
. He asked God the father a question He already knew the answer to.
Vs 42 "Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." He knew there was no other option but to die on the cross. If He did not, we would all be doomed to eternal damnation. Remember this was something that had been planned from the beginning. There are prophecies in the Old testament and New testament about Jesus' coming and the plan of salvation for us all.
Jesus' abilities were limited because He chose them to be for our sake. Because He is God and God can do anything.
The problem with you is you limit God's abilities. There is nothing that is impossible with God. Matthew 19:26, "
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible." You may struggle with how it was possible for Jesus who is God to limit himself to live as a human being here on earth, but it is possible because He is God. He did it for our benefit.
John 10:14-18
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
God spoke creation into existence. He created the whole universe and the beings in it. He set the universe running like a watch. He supplies power constantly for seasons and growth. The stars are always in place, day follows night etc. This is all by His ongoing powerful creative upholding
word. His greatness is beyond measure that our human wisdon cannot begin to understand that.
Psalms 33:6-9
6 By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.
8 Let all the earth fear the Lord: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Isaiah 40:15-18
15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.
17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Colossians 1:16
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Romans 1:20
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
I will end with this. They are not my words.
It would be pompous and preposterous to pretend that we understand everything about God. “O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!” (Romans 11:33). If we could completely unpack Him like cracking some genetic code, He would cease to be God.
Nevertheless, there is much about God that is revealed for our blessing. “The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever” (Deuteronomy 29:29). What is revealed is that this teaching of the Godhead must be important to God. The ministry of Jesus both begins and ends with an emphasis on the three persons in the Godhead. The Father, Son, and Spirit are present at Jesus’ baptism and when He ascends to heaven. Jesus commanded His followers to baptize in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
The testimony of Scripture indicates that the Godhead can neither be separated into three Gods nor merged into one person. This three-in-one not only created us, but they love us and devised an amazing plan to save a lost world from sin to restore us to His presence in paradise.
“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen” (2 Corinthians 13:14).