Dr. William Campbell destroyed by Dr. Zakir Naik on scientific errors in the Bible MUST WATCH!!

[floss]

So why was he born if he always existed in an external form?

More questions than answers...

We human are born into this world through our parent. The Son of God was different, he manifested himself into this world through the ONLY miracle birth there ever was. Why? to reconciled mankind back to God, to hand out salvation, to rescue the lost, to break all chains, to pull people out of hell. JESUS is the only SINLESS man ever walk on this earth. There are many things JESUS accomplished by manifesting into this world but the main thing is handing out salvation. YOU will NEVER be good enough to enter HIS kingdom without the righteousness of JESUS. All your works and deeds will NEVER be enough. This is the ONLY TRUTH.

 

[phipps]

Your salvation is based on the acceptance of Jesus, then your prior sins are forgiven and you have a clean slate. However, you continue to sin, which is normal and human nature, but the only thing that's changed is your acknowledgement of Jesus dying for the very sins you continue to commit, just with a different attitude?

First you have to understand our canal nature and how its impossible to stop sinning automatically even after we become Christians. We stop committing major sin but a complete conversion of the heart through Jesus Christ, is a process. I'll quote what someone wrote because I am not good with words. " We have absolutely no natural ability to keep the thoughts and imagination under control for the simple reason that they are rooted in our sinful natures. Only when the mind has been regenerated through the process of conversion can the individual subjugate the lower, physical powers and bring them under the effective control of the Holy Spirit. Only in this way may the very intents of the heart be sanctified and brought into harmony with Christ. Without the transforming grace of the new birth, “the carnal mind ... is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (Romans 8:7)." It is a process which requires me to surrender self daily to God's will. I will fall many times but by Christ's saving power I will get up or He will carry me, and I will continue on that long and narrow road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Another quote, "As the mind and will cooperates with the Holy Spirit, a faith reckoning renders the deathblow to the old man of sin. The life opens up to the sweet, triumphant infilling of a new spiritual power. Little idols disappear as they are dethroned from the heart. There are no more secrets from God, no longer anything to hide or to be ashamed of, no more defeatism as a way of life. Joyfully we put aside the ornaments of self and the world to allow more capacity for the loving character of Christ to be revealed."

 

[Haich]

First you have to understand our canal nature and how its impossible to stop sinning automatically even after we become Christians. I'll quote what someone wrote because I am not good with words. " We have absolutely no natural ability to keep the thoughts and imagination under control for the simple reason that they are rooted in our sinful natures. Only when the mind has been regenerated through the process of conversion can the individual subjugate the lower, physical powers and bring them under the effective control of the Holy Spirit. Only in this way may the very intents of the heart be sanctified and brought into harmony with Christ. Without the transforming grace of the new birth, “the carnal mind ... is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (Romans 8:7)." It is a process which requires me to surrender self daily to God's will. I will fall many times but by Christ's saving power I will get up or He will carry me and I will continue on that long and narrow road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Another quote, "As the mind and will cooperates with the Holy Spirit, a faith reckoning renders the deathblow to the old man of sin. The life opens up to the sweet, triumphant infilling of a new spiritual power. Little idols disappear as they are dethroned from the heart. There are no more secrets from God, no longer anything to hide or to be ashamed of, no more defeatism as a way of life. Joyfully we put aside the ornaments of self and the world to allow more capacity for the loving character of Christ to be revealed."

How does Christ help you and prevent you from sinning?

 

[Haich]

Acts 2:22 New International Version (NIV)
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

I always have an issue with this verse. My friends love to reference it but never really address the contradiction this verse holds, with the rest of their faith.

It clearly states Jesus was a man not a God.
It clearly states Jesus was accredited his powers by God.
Is this not clear evidence from your book, contradicting the Trinitarian belief you hold so dear?

God and Jesus are spoken about as two separate beings. Nothing in that verse unifies them in status, power or form...

How is this verse interpreted by your scholars?

 

[AspiringSoul]

@Kung Fu
Bro if Mohammad saw literally said he cannot do anything except through Allah
And then also said
"If you have seen me you have seen Allah"
Most of us would understand this to mean Allah was Immanent in him without thinking he is Allah.

Take this hadith for example

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (RadhiyAllahu ‘anhu) who said: The Messenger of Allah (SallaAllahu ‘alayhi wasallam) said,

“Verily Allah (Glorified may he be) has said: ‘Whosoever shows enmity to a wali (friend) of Mine, then I have declared war against him. And My servant does not draw near to Me with anything more beloved to Me than the religious duties I have obligated upon him. And My servant continues to draw near to me with nafil (supererogatory) deeds until I Love him. When I Love him, I become his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him; and were he to seek refuge with Me, I would surely grant him refuge.’ ”

[Reported by Bukhari]


So naturally being familiar with this and then reading what Jesus said...it makes perfect sense and doesn't mean he is God.

This perspective provides sound reason and consistency...it leaves nothing unanswered.
The Christians here say one thing and it contradicts another and because that's another topic it goes over their head. when that other topic later comes up they must treat that like it's nothing...it all adds up

So for example if Jesus is not Adonai The Lord.....but adoni 'lord' and you apply this to every context where he is designated the title of lord in the new testament it alters a great deal in meaning

Sad part is many Muslims read the new testament and hated the terminology or son/lord and so rejected the whole things whereas Muslims should be clarifying to Christians what it actually means.

If your theology is sound it all makes sense otherwise you're in trouble. These guys cannot have a sound theology when it's based off a Roman literal Interpeeration of mystical Hellenised themes.
The Romans were not known for their deep philosophy lol.
The Greeks were

When you get time read up on Plotinus
This man wasn't s Christian...he was Greek and travelled to Persia and the middle East and the grand truth he learnt was exactly what the new testament was meant to teach
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plotinus
The essence, the macrocosm and microcosm
That is the reality of Bismillah IrRahman IrRaheem
You know the hadith
"My Mercy surrounds everything"

I think the whole development of the understanding of the macrocosm and microcosm is probably the most important truth in all religion.
Its also fascinating that Greeks were the ones to really absorb eastern and Egyptian mythology/philosophy...add to it and it was all done when Jews were hellenised and hence....Christianity is the outcome.
Whilst Christianity went off to Rome and seperated from the established idea...many connected religions remained in the middle East which eventually led to them influencing Islam and in turn Islam influencing them.
What Islam brought to it was energy, structure and unity...what they brought to Islam was widom, personality, art...

Most Christians have lost touch with it all.
Joseph Hagee and David wood is what is left. Sad.

 

[Haich]

Bro if Mohammad saw literally said he cannot do anything except through Allah
And then also said
"If you have seen me you have seen Allah"
Most of us would understand this to mean Allah was Immanent in him without thinking he is Allah.

Very good point

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Acts 2:22 New International Version (NIV)
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

I always have an issue with this verse. My friends love to reference it but never really address the contradiction this verse holds, with the rest of their faith.

It clearly states Jesus was a man not a God.
It clearly states Jesus was accredited his powers by God.
Is this not clear evidence from your book, contradicting the Trinitarian belief you hold so dear?

God and Jesus are spoken about as two separate beings. Nothing in that verse unifies them in status, power or form...

How is this verse interpreted by your scholars?

Have you considered the paradigm of Jesus coming as the second Adam, and the implications (especially for his apparent human limitations etc) that follow?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-second-Adam.html

Any answer I could furnish you with would be based on the meaning contained here.

P.s. Just to put it into context, it looks like the Guardian is coming down in favour of Lee Strobel findings in The Case for Christ...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died

 

[phipps]

How does Christ help you and prevent you from sinning?

We accept His gift of salvation. Follow His example of how He lived in this world, believe Him, obey God's commandments, repent and forsake our sins, be willing to accept and trust His promises to give us victory in times of temptation. Jesus promises power for each one who accepts Him. This power comes to us through the Word of God. If we study that Word earnestly, we will find Jesus. As we store that Word in our hearts and apply its principles to our everyday lives, we will grow closer to Jesus. His power will keep us from sin (through a process of conversion/transformation) and turn us into loving and loveable followers of Jesus.

 

[Haich]

Have you considered the paradigm of Jesus coming as the second Adam, and the implications (especially for his apparent human limitations etc) that follow?

Jesus coming as the second Adam doesn't support your claim of his divinity.

If you claim the flesh was man, yet Jesus' spirit was God, this is uncharted territory. You're now arguing God is a spirit which can flow through people and change forms. I mean, this would be an entirely new discussion and a new message to mankind as once again, we're faced with discrepancies and conflicting information with regards to scriptures of the old.

 

[Haich]

Can some answer my questions about this verse...thank you


Acts 2:22 New International Version (NIV)
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

 

[Haich]

We accept His gift of salvation. Follow His example of how He lived in this world, believe Him, obey God's commandments, repent and forsake our sins, be willing to accept and trust His promises to give us victory in times of temptation. Jesus promises power for each one who accepts Him. This power comes to us through the Word of God. If we study that Word earnestly, we will find Jesus. As we store that Word in our hearts and apply its principles to our everyday lives, we will grow closer to Jesus. His power will keep us from sin (through a process of conversion/transformation) and turn us into loving and loveable followers of Jesus.

So you follow Jesus' law, in an attempt to refrain from sin?

What about those you follow Jesus' law and sin in private? Are they held accountable for their actions?

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Jesus coming as the second Adam doesn't support your claim of his divinity.

If you claim the flesh was man, yet Jesus' spirit was God, this is uncharted territory. You're now arguing God is a spirit which can flow through people and change forms. I mean, this would be an entirely new discussion and a new message to mankind as once again, we're faced with discrepancies and conflicting information with regards to scriptures of the old.

It begs the question of what it means to be "fully God and fully Man", does it not?

What do you suppose Jesus might have intended through only carrying out miracles as a man in obedience and relationship with the Father?

 

[phipps]

Acts 2:22 New International Version (NIV)
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

I always have an issue with this verse. My friends love to reference it but never really address the contradiction this verse holds, with the rest of their faith.

It clearly states Jesus was a man not a God.
It clearly states Jesus was accredited his powers by God.
Is this not clear evidence from your book, contradicting the Trinitarian belief you hold so dear?

God and Jesus are spoken about as two separate beings. Nothing in that verse unifies them in status, power or form...

How is this verse interpreted by your scholars?

Actually the Bible is clear unless one doesn't want it to be or doesn't understand it for various reasons that have to do with not allowing the Holy Spirit to work within them.

Not my words but I agree with them.
Why Human Nature?

Why was He born in the same flesh and nature we have? So that He could be understanding of our weaknesses and inclinations toward sin, and be a merciful High Priest for us. Do the words "in all things" really mean "in all things"? Of course.

Paul declared that Jesus "was made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (Romans 1:3). It would be contrary to reason for these words to be interpreted to mean that Christ inherited a holy, unfallen nature from Mary. Whatever David's seed was like after the flesh, our Lord partook of the same. All of those descendants of David, except one, yielded to their hereditary inclinations and committed personal sins. Jesus, like all others, inherited the nature of David after the flesh, but He did not yield to the inherent weaknesses of that nature. Although tempted in all points like we are, He did not respond by a single degree of indulgence to any of those temptations. His life was a constant fortress of invincible spiritual power against the tempter.

By relying wholly upon His Father's ever-present strength, He demonstrated the victory that is possible for all of David's seed after the flesh to experience.

Again, we read, "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same" (Hebrews 2:14). Notice how the inspired writer emphasized the sameness of the body of Christ with man. HE—ALSO—HIMSELF—LIKEWISE. These four words are used consecutively even though they are repetitive and redundant. WHY? In order to impress us that Jesus really did enter into the SAME nature man possessed. Just like children partake of the same flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took the same! How can this unambiguous language confuse anyone?

Jesus Had Hereditary Weaknesses

Jesus partook of the same flesh and blood as children receive from their parents. That is referring to heredity also. If Christ had been born with Adam's unfallen nature, the very suggestion of hereditary influence would be ridiculous in the extreme. There could be no place for any kind of inherited tendencies in a holy Adamic nature that had never known either birth or ancestry. If He had no inherited weaknesses, why would the writer of Hebrews say that He partook of the same flesh and blood that children receive from parents? Certain it is that the Creator did not incorporate any inherent weaknesses into the original creation. Adam had no battles to fight against hereditary tendencies. He had the power in himself to choose always not to sin.

Did Jesus as a man claim to have that kind of power? No. He said, "I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things" (John 8:28). Repeatedly, Christ spoke of being dependent on His Father for what He said and what He did.

Does this mean that He possessed no deity and omnipotence as the Son of God? On the contrary, He was truly and wholly divine, just as He was truly and wholly man. But those two natures apparently were not amalgamated into some hybrid personality that stood apart from either God or man. He was fully God and He was fully man. He could draw upon either of these distinct natures while living here in the flesh. But the really important thing for us to remember is that He did not exercise His divine power to save Himself from the weaknesses and temptations inherited from His human ancestry. He chose to live His life here as a man in the same way we have to live it. To save Himself from sin and the perils of the flesh, He depended constantly and solely upon the power of His Father. It was in this way that He overcame the devil, closed every avenue of temptation, and lived a life of perfect obedience. By never yielding to the inherent appeal of the flesh, He set an example of the kind of victory that may come to every child of Adam through dependence on the Father.

Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness to use His divine power to satisfy His agonizing hunger. Satan knew that Jesus had the power of deity to work that miracle. His hope was that he could provoke Christ to draw upon His divinity for relief. Why would that have been such a triumph for Satan? He could have used that to sustain his charges that God required an obedience that no man in the flesh could produce. If Jesus had failed to overcome the tempter in the same nature we have, and by the same means available to us, the devil would have proven that obedience is indeed an impossible requirement. Satan understood very well that Jesus could not use His divine power to save Himself and to save man at the same time. This is what made the test such a severe and agonizing experience for Christ.

If Jesus actually inherited the compromised nature of Adam, then why didn't He sin like the rest of Adam's descendants? Because He was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb and possessed a fully surrendered will and sanctified human nature. May we partake of that same power to keep us from sinning? Yes. Jesus, in living His life of victory over sin, did not utilize His divinity but confined Himself to the same power available to us through conversion and sanctification.

 

[Haich]

It begs the question of what it means to be "fully God and fully Man", does it not?

What do you suppose Jesus might have intended through only carrying out miracles as a man in obedience and relationship with the Father?

Moses parted the seas. Abraham was thrown into a fire and survived. Saleh made a camel emerge from the mountains. Miracles were performed by the prophets prior to him too through God. God gave them the abilities to perform these miracles and they always referenced this. Even Jesus himself, in your book, in the Garden of Gethsemane acknowledged God's will and order.

He wasn't just a man, he was a man with a duty. He was a prophet and messenger sent with a huge duty to the children of Israel in order for them to obey God through the law Jesus had. This is what we believe. We believe, Jesus intended to show the children of Israel, via the miracles given and facilitated by the Father, to worship the one true God and leave all the corruption behind. The chiefs couldn't stand the fact that God sent a fatherless man, who was poor and in their eyes beneath them. To make them see the reality, like the prophets before him, God gave Jesus pbuh the ability to heal and cure. More than anything, it's a testament of God's power and His mercy on the children of Israel, who proved to be not just unruly but prone to disbelief.

It was their last chance, Jesus was their last chance and their saviour and they rejected it and plotted to kill him. God saved him and he will return to kill the anti Christ and fulfil his duty as the messiah.

 

[TokiEl]

As i see it and remember now i am an uneducated former bedwetter who used to stamp on ants for fun...

So my credentials in interpreting the Scriptures are let's be honest lacking but that fact do not stop me from voicing my opinion on it. Not that my lacking makes me a perfect spokesperson of God but Scripturally speaking God got this good track record of picking some of the most unlikely candidates or goofballs to do a job.

And well that's me right there.

So i see the modern mainstream salvation message as absolutely absurd... for what about all who lived before Jesus Christ or in remote places in the centuries after Him or all the little children today ?

They have not read heard and so cannot believe in the Gospels or Jesus Christ.

So logically they must end up in Hell according to modern mainstream Christinsanity. No that was not a typo.


What do you think ? Am i right ?

 

[Haich]

The miracles of ‘Eesa

The miracle of Prophet ‘Eesa

was that he cured the blind and the leper, and gave life to the dead by the permission of Allah The Almighty. He would design the form of a bird from clay, breathe into itand it became a bird by the permission of Allah The Almighty. Allah The Almighty Says (what means): {And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.} [Quran 3:49] Another miracle of Prophet ‘Eesa

was the table that was sent down from heaven with food. His people wanted him to ask Allah The Almighty to send down a table spread with food so that their faith would increase. They urged him to supplicate His Lord to do so, and he warned them, but they insisted, so Allah The Almighty sent down the table so that it would be a miracle of Prophet ‘Eesa

. Allah The Almighty Says (what means): {[And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear Allah, if you should be believers."They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its witnesses."Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O Allah, our Lord, send down to us a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide for us, and You are the best of providers. "Allah said, "Indeed, I will send it down to you, but whoever disbelieves afterwards from among you - then indeed will I punish him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the Worlds."} [Quran 5: 112-115]

 

[AspiringSoul]

@Serveto greeks
on one hand, they were major bum bandits
on the other they were known for being people of spirituality
i wonder how, as a muslim I am like how i am and this guy Plotinus was

From all accounts his personal and social life exhibited the highest moral and spiritual standards.

what on earth motivated these ppl? they probably didnt grow up watching hollywood movies and listening to Biggy n pac.
But why is it, so many millions in the muslim and christian world for so long, lived........but didnt develop or live moral lives...other than living within a religious framework/culture...yet these people actively pursued a spiritual/moral life?
what inspired these ppl? it wasnt the holy spirit......

 

[Haich]

Actually the Bible is clear unless one doesn't want it to be or doesn't understand it for various reasons that have to do with not allowing the Holy Spirit to work within them.

Not my words but I agree with them.
Why Human Nature?

Why was He born in the same flesh and nature we have? So that He could be understanding of our weaknesses and inclinations toward sin, and be a merciful High Priest for us. Do the words "in all things" really mean "in all things"? Of course.

Paul declared that Jesus "was made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (Romans 1:3). It would be contrary to reason for these words to be interpreted to mean that Christ inherited a holy, unfallen nature from Mary. Whatever David's seed was like after the flesh, our Lord partook of the same. All of those descendants of David, except one, yielded to their hereditary inclinations and committed personal sins. Jesus, like all others, inherited the nature of David after the flesh, but He did not yield to the inherent weaknesses of that nature. Although tempted in all points like we are, He did not respond by a single degree of indulgence to any of those temptations. His life was a constant fortress of invincible spiritual power against the tempter.

By relying wholly upon His Father's ever-present strength, He demonstrated the victory that is possible for all of David's seed after the flesh to experience.

Again, we read, "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same" (Hebrews 2:14). Notice how the inspired writer emphasized the sameness of the body of Christ with man. HE—ALSO—HIMSELF—LIKEWISE. These four words are used consecutively even though they are repetitive and redundant. WHY? In order to impress us that Jesus really did enter into the SAME nature man possessed. Just like children partake of the same flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took the same! How can this unambiguous language confuse anyone?

Jesus Had Hereditary Weaknesses

Jesus partook of the same flesh and blood as children receive from their parents. That is referring to heredity also. If Christ had been born with Adam's unfallen nature, the very suggestion of hereditary influence would be ridiculous in the extreme. There could be no place for any kind of inherited tendencies in a holy Adamic nature that had never known either birth or ancestry. If He had no inherited weaknesses, why would the writer of Hebrews say that He partook of the same flesh and blood that children receive from parents? Certain it is that the Creator did not incorporate any inherent weaknesses into the original creation. Adam had no battles to fight against hereditary tendencies. He had the power in himself to choose always not to sin.

Did Jesus as a man claim to have that kind of power? No. He said, "I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things" (John 8:28). Repeatedly, Christ spoke of being dependent on His Father for what He said and what He did.

Does this mean that He possessed no deity and omnipotence as the Son of God? On the contrary, He was truly and wholly divine, just as He was truly and wholly man. But those two natures apparently were not amalgamated into some hybrid personality that stood apart from either God or man. He was fully God and He was fully man. He could draw upon either of these distinct natures while living here in the flesh. But the really important thing for us to remember is that He did not exercise His divine power to save Himself from the weaknesses and temptations inherited from His human ancestry. He chose to live His life here as a man in the same way we have to live it. To save Himself from sin and the perils of the flesh, He depended constantly and solely upon the power of His Father. It was in this way that He overcame the devil, closed every avenue of temptation, and lived a life of perfect obedience. By never yielding to the inherent appeal of the flesh, He set an example of the kind of victory that may come to every child of Adam through dependence on the Father.

Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness to use His divine power to satisfy His agonizing hunger. Satan knew that Jesus had the power of deity to work that miracle. His hope was that he could provoke Christ to draw upon His divinity for relief. Why would that have been such a triumph for Satan? He could have used that to sustain his charges that God required an obedience that no man in the flesh could produce. If Jesus had failed to overcome the tempter in the same nature we have, and by the same means available to us, the devil would have proven that obedience is indeed an impossible requirement. Satan understood very well that Jesus could not use His divine power to save Himself and to save man at the same time. This is what made the test such a severe and agonizing experience for Christ.

If Jesus actually inherited the compromised nature of Adam, then why didn't He sin like the rest of Adam's descendants? Because He was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb and possessed a fully surrendered will and sanctified human nature. May we partake of that same power to keep us from sinning? Yes. Jesus, in living His life of victory over sin, did not utilize His divinity but confined Himself to the same power available to us through conversion and sanctification.

Just want your opinion on the verse my friend, I don't accept paul as a spokesman for Jesus or God.

 

[LostCoin]

So you're still allowed to sin despite being saved. What was the point of Jesus' death and your acceptance for Jesus if you're still sinning but just with a different attitude?

Part time sinner ?

OK, even though I’m “a newbie“ I have seen enough of your posts to know that you are sufficiently intelligent. I have to finish my work day here, but I know you understand just because we believe on Christ and our sins are forgiven that doesn’t mean that the rebellious nature we were born with just “goes away”. God has given mankind free will and he doesn’t force us to obey his commandments, thus it’s not that we are “allowed” to sin, rather we are given free will to choose.

What I have said (several times) is that when you accept Christ, you should gain a new sense of wanting to please him and therefore the sins that perhaps you used to think were no biggie and justify you begin to reject and avoid. To use a simplified real life example: prior to my acceptance of Christ, I used to justify being sexual with my boyfriend. Deep down, I knew it was wrong even before I became a Christian. After accepting Christ, it became more painful for me to try to justify and ignore my sins (this is called conviction)....Which led to me eventually breaking up with that boyfriend as I began to try to change my behavior and he couldn’t understand what was going on. Today, many years later, as a Christian if I were to begin dating again I would never have sex outside of marriage, or at least try everything in my power to avoid it. If I fell into temptation and actually did do that, I would immediately repent and stop doing it.

I have already sinned today! My husband and I got into an argument and I raised my voice and treated him disrespectfully. I had to apologize to him and I know deep down I shouldn’t do that so I confessed it immediately to my God and asked him to forgive me and strengthen me against doing that again. Unfortunately because I am human and flawed, it may happen again, but I try my hardest to avoid it. The “pre-Christ” me, full of pride and spiritually blind, would have probably given him the silent treatment and refused to apologize, rationalizing that he deserved it based on blah blah.

By the way, sinning isn’t just disobeying the 10 Commandments as they are literally written. (Although all sin will fall under one of those commandments when you trace it back.) Sinning is when we act in a way that is oppposed to God, His nature, and His moral perfection.

Have a peaceful day.

At the end of the day Christians and Muslims have some good things in common religiously speaking. Of course we do disagree on some very key and critical doctrines. However we seem to agree on a lot of moral content. It’s too bad that instead of trying to disprove and outdo one another, and talking down to each other that we can’t just approach it with an attitude to understand those differences, while treating each other with respect and perhaps coming together in a world that is becoming increasingly evil and rejecting spirituality of every kind.

 

[phipps]

So you follow Jesus' law, in an attempt to refrain from sin?

What about those you follow Jesus' law and sin in private? Are they held accountable for their actions?

I obey Jesus' law because I have faith in Him. Obeying God's law is evidence of my faith. Only Jesus has the power to give me victory over every temptation, He is able to keep me from falling. If we study that Word earnestly, we will find Jesus. As we store that Word in our hearts and apply its principles to our everyday lives, we will grow closer to Jesus. His power will keep us from sin (through a process of conversion/transformation) and turn us into loving and loveable followers of Jesus.

Those who sin in private will be held accountable for their sins if they don't repent and turn away from them. After all Jesus is all knowing and can see everything and read our hearts. We will all be judged, good or bad and will face the consequences of those judgments according to the choices we made in this world according to God's law.