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I belive nAMj00n might be handler. Let's think. The guy has ok background to have nice education and be successful in life and he is naturally not stupid. Why he decided to join the boy band in absolutely unknown company such as bighiiit?! P
lus he even couldn't dance or sing and knew he doen't have appealing appearance which is extremely important for an idol. Most of parents against their children going to showbiz cs there's very small chances to become big and than you will struggle in future, even being trainee in big company doesn't promise u even 20% of success..He knew they will blow up, he was writing their satanic lyrics long ago back than and planing concept with their team for all these years. This is explains why he knows eng slang so good, i'm sure there's a lot of eng speakers working for them since it is such a massive project. I think they told him some of them are hardly under control from childhood and taught him how to control them. Have u ever noticed sometimes members can be rude to oldest, to Jin or Hobi, but never to him? Plus some of them admitted they feel uncomfortable near him. I also noticed Jin, jimin and jk often play near him like puppies and do everything he says. But he is a loner among them, and u can see all arrogance in his behavior toward them, he just knows more than them. I dont think he is the only bad guy in their band, but he is the one who doesn't struggle at all. So his relationships with jimin like dog with gis owner. (Discl: it is not fact, just my fantasy and opinion)
Someone mentioned not from this thread before that R`m seems to be good at english his accent is not like he just learned it from the show FRIENDS which he said he did.
His english sounds like he studied in the us or maybe he imitated their accent
Yeah I also notice he's quiet and they don't mess with him and always on his phone. Maybe he's reading the thread rofl.
Even eating he has his phone on one hand eating with the other
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I am muslim but I felt quite the same. All the time we spent looking for all those satanic things are may actually be a good thing for Sa+an. He still kind of make us use our time to look into bts (no longer in terms of music and being a fan). I feel like we are still attached to them.
Now that I see it,
I might take a break ...
 
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I think it's really important to watch this video to understand what it's like to be a mkultra victim. Especially from 18:30 onwards.


"Once the abuse is over, the core personality is not conscious of what happened. Dissociation also serves the purposes of the occult because the children have no day-to-day memories of the atrocities. They go through adolescence and early adulthood with no active memory of what is taking place but continuing rituals through their teens and early 20s unaware of their involvement. The victims lead relatively normal lives until they get triggered and flashbacks or nightmares occur. "

Love for lucy said that Taehyung and Jin were born into the occult and that Jimin's mind is "very" split. I wonder what it must be like for them.. The Aiwass person said Jin is indeed born into a masonic family and is a moonchild. Also Jin's father is supposedly a CEO of a company which makes it a little less surprising..

She mentioned when the picture was taken she didn't know about it.

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Wow the hand sign forming butterflies I saw R`m do that on a vl1ve and now recently, I saw this (i thought it was a masonic hand sign)
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Butterfly hand symbol

Thanks for the video
Also, I hope they clarified what it meant by j`min having a "very" split mind (maybe its the alters?), that's why i get confused he is so happy and it makes me doubt about if he underwent the MK abuse but if his mind is split then what we see on-cam maybe one of his split alters
And I agree with j1n being born into it he is very likely coming from wealth and a ceo father at that
I wonder what they look like when their other persona are triggered.. Hm.
I also agree with Tea the pyramid drawing was a hint from him and him being a "hidden" member the elite are very secretive and love to hide things in plain sight (idk this might be a reach)
And they asked him what he thought of jamal eventhough he is a "hidden" member seems like he has some influence over the group and jamal was accepted (it was in their comeback shows I forgot what it was called)
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Jimin is also known to have had some troubles debuting, Bighit was unsure if they were going to let him debut/be a member of BTS. In Bon Voyage S2, Tea says in his letter to Jim1n that bigh`t asked Vee if he wanted Jimin to debut with him.. etc. Many Koreans say that this was the reason behind Jim`n’s lack of self confidence in the beginning of the debut.
 
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Wow the hand sign forming butterflies I saw R`m do that on a vl1ve and now recently, I saw this (i thought it was a masonic hand sign)
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Butterfly hand symbol

Thanks for the video
Also, I hope they clarified what it meant by j`min having a "very" split mind (maybe its the alters?), that's why i get confused he is so happy and it makes me doubt about if he underwent the MK abuse but if his mind is split then what we see on-cam maybe one of his split alters
And I agree with j1n being born into it he is very likely coming from wealth and a ceo father at that
I wonder what they look like when their other persona are triggered.. Hm.
I also agree with Tea the pyramid drawing was a hint from him and him being a "hidden" member the elite are very secretive and love to hide things in plain sight (idk this might be a reach)
I’ve seen a lot of things and heard things I think Tae wants to get out
If he was to leave which is very unlikely there would have to be a price right and if he’s born into it where does he go
I have seen Jimins changes For example he is very sweet and on stage he’s so fiery and the members say he gets angry really quickly
I think he has split personalities
 
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I think they meant that he has many personalities. He might not even be aware of it. The woman in the video had no idea it was happening to her at the time
Thanks for clarifying:D
I thought the same that he has split personality...well, they call it dissociation now. Wonder how many he has. And whats his other personalities. Hm.. maybe we will never know as we can't observe irl

I’ve seen a lot of things and heard things I think Tae wants to get out
If he was to leave which is very unlikely there would have to be a price right and if he’s born into it where does he go
I have seen Jimins changes For example he is very sweet and on stage he’s so fiery and the members say he gets angry really quickly
I think he has split personalities
Ahh, thanks I see it now:D and he has this personality where he is really happy but in the Us before he seemed not so good with the memes that floated you can see it in his face.
Hm.. I wonder how Tea will get out if he wants to and if they will allow it. What is the price of freedom? Especially if he was born into it the price must be bigger?
 
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Thanks for clarifying:D
I thought the same that he has split personality...well, they call it dissociation now. Wonder how many he has. And whats his other personalities. Hm.. maybe we will never know as we can't observe irl



Ahh, thanks I see it now:D and he has this personality where he is really happy but in the Us before he seemed not so good with the memes that floated you can see it in his face.
Hm.. I wonder how Tea will get out if he wants to and if they will allow it. What is the price of freedom? Especially if he was born into it the price must be bigger?
Ah nice catch!!!!!! And this year he was so high in the US
No problem
I don’t understand the company B@ng Pd didn’t even know T@es name but asked if Jimin should be part of the group
 

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Here is the description of the BT21 characters:

Cooky by J-K


Cooky that's rough to everyone but even rougher to its friends when it gets angry it changes into its big muscles do not ignore it because you will get hurt (this description is kinda of aggresive. this bunny seems to have attitude problems lol he hurts the other characters when he gets mad according to this description)

RJ by J1n



Pichu through pure lineage passed on through generations an alpaca that escaped aspiring the cool life of the city
Even through it has a lot of fur it gets cold really easily and enjoys wearing a parka. It shows its charms by showing the happiest expression when eating
(nothing suspicious here except maybe the "pure lineage passed on through generations" that could be a refference of J1n's own story if he was born into the occult)

Shooky by Yoon-gi



Even though its stepped on because its small even though it gets eaten because its yummy when you get to the happy shooky its BT21's evil one/antagonist cocky's playmate that colony argues with a lot. A playfulness that can't be helped its charm is having 300,000 expressions. (curious how he describes himself as "the evil one" he also talked about his different 300.000 expressions could he be refering to multiple personalities? and he is always paired with J-K's character for an unknown reason)

Tata by Tae3



A heart face that stands out from anywhere its face and the way it talks tone of voice formed nicely. Even though of voice it can not do anything by itself . It wanted to possess all the love in the world so it came to earth but it doesn't know how to use its powers (just wants to be loved but doesn't know how to use his powers and can do anything by itself?)

Mang by J-Hop3



The face under the mask the sincerity beneath its heart is all a mystery but mang who overloads with fun only when it dances. Pretends to be cool but true appearance beneath the mask and the dance writes sadly in its journal and goes to bed. It's the sensitive of this generation (the most curious thing about this character is that he is always wearing a mask and not showing his true self, I already talked about this mask and how it's similar to the masks used in the occult Rothschild party)


Koya by R-M



It has droopy eyes and has a docile appearance but is a koala that has surprisingly delicate and sharp judgement and also musical skills. It looks like its sleeping but its actually suffering from insomnia it has many many moments where it thinks about all kinds of things then suddenly things about its big ears falling off and abruptly (He is sleeping all the time and reccomends fans to listen to his songs while they sleep, we all know why he is giving that advice to armys right? ;))


Chimmy by J!min



With a tongue that sticks out and its chubby cheeks its a cutie when you get to know it its cute,funny and hard working and receives love for that as a self romantic. It loves everything about itself but it struggles when it thinks about its short tail drowns in his emotions and starts playing its harmonica (when J1min's character is sad he cries and plays the harmonica, this reminds me of their song "pied pieper" and how they tell the fans to follow the sound of their flute, in this case the harmonica could be playing a similar part)

Chimmy playing the harmonica while he cries



Source :https://aminoapps.com/c/jungkook-fanbase/page/blog/bt21-created-by-bts/1JQL_GjJt6udD3Rkox2LJmxY6rPLpJl1nJW
These are some weird explanations ...
M4ng totally seems like h0b1..
Sh00ky has so many expressions.. What?
K00k gets angry and only hurts?
J1n one seemed fine..
K0ya typical Rm..
Tata needs love so he came to get love.. And this what we read somewhere that when he wants attention he really wants it.. Why mentioning his deep voice in another way :D and a face that stands out? Who wrote these descriptions..
Don't people question them at all?
 

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Okay gworls, who decided to use the name Jamal for chyimchyim???
It took your homegirl here a while to figure that out!
Okay we found another one of them who can solve riddle backwards ..

Seems they have been taught really well.. Maybe the maknae line wasn't taught about these stuff yet or maybe they didn't pay attention to the backwards class :D..
 

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Ohh, I didn't know this figure was also in a video of g`lam....
I saw $ugar had the same figurine. Seems like a skeleton and hard undead with brain exposed and that XO eye again. They really love illuminati down to the toys and cartoons. Must be skull and bones symbolism too with the skeleton and XO one eye.
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It's one eye V`an is glowing don't stare into it may brainwash you...
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R`m seems to be a good handler (if he is one) jamal is docile to him
And he is indeed a good part of the one eye club
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Oh wow.. So that's how they had hidden the 2 horns... Very well hidden indeed ..
That's what had been bothering me all this time that why does van have 1 only.. It's not like it's a unicorn or something :D..
So there.. Mystery solved.. There are alread 2 but fused..
 

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Someone mentioned not from this thread before that R`m seems to be good at english his accent is not like he just learned it from the show FRIENDS which he said he did.
His english sounds like he studied in the us or maybe he imitated their accent
Yeah I also notice he's quiet and they don't mess with him and always on his phone. Maybe he's reading the thread rofl.
Even eating he has his phone on one hand eating with the other
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Now that I see it,
I might take a break ...
He must be loving the fly repellants.. Getting his daily dose of them from here..
 

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But what about the reflection short film. It's all about the mirrors breaking (which usually represents mind splitting), so he could be a victim too.

Yeah i believe all 7 of them to be victims ... Some just surrender easily to the orders.. And makes the other victims follow the orders.. And they themselves are no different.. Just they get a bit of relaxation from the ones above them..
 

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Ohh, I didn't know this figure was also in a video of g`lam....
I saw $ugar had the same figurine. Seems like a skeleton and hard undead with brain exposed and that XO eye again. They really love illuminati down to the toys and cartoons. Must be skull and bones symbolism too with the skeleton and XO one eye.
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It's one eye V`an is glowing don't stare into it may brainwash you...
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R`m seems to be a good handler (if he is one) jamal is docile to him
And he is indeed a good part of the one eye club
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True X)
Also well should we give him the repellent as well ? xD
 

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I belive nAMj00n might be handler. Let's think. The guy has ok background to have nice education and be successful in life and he is naturally not stupid. Why he decided to join the boy band in absolutely unknown company such as bighiiit?! Plus he even couldn't dance or sing and knew he doen't have appealing appearance which is extremely important for an idol. Most of parents against their children going to showbiz cs there's very small chances to become big and than you will struggle in future, even being trainee in big company doesn't promise u even 20% of success..He knew they will blow up, he was writing their satanic lyrics long ago back than and planing concept with their team for all these years. This is explains why he knows eng slang so good, i'm sure there's a lot of eng speakers working for them since it is such a massive project. I think they told him some of them are hardly under control from childhood and taught him how to control them. Have u ever noticed sometimes members can be rude to oldest, to Jin or Hobi, but never to him? Plus some of them admitted they feel uncomfortable near him. I also noticed Jin, jimin and jk often play near him like puppies and do everything he says. But he is a loner among them, and u can see all arrogance in his behavior toward them, he just knows more than them. I dont think he is the only bad guy in their band, but he is the one who doesn't struggle at all. So his relationships with jimin like dog with gis owner. (Discl: it is not fact, just my fantasy and opinion)
Well you can be half wrong half right or everything right (personnally i agree it's wierd never seeing him scolded just bc he is the leader and bc he is older )(or should i say handler X) )(again i share parts of your opinion :3)
 

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Be careful when it comes to researching about the occult. I started to research about stuff of the occult thinking it would be beneficial for me so I'd find out more about bts and their link to the occult and I felt God saying to me not to do that but I still continued.. It's dangerous because before you know it, you're into it too much and almost forget about Jesus as scary as it sounds. I could feel the more I read about Thelema etc. the further away I went from God. There's spirits attached to those stuff and I could feel it. Satan is so sneaky. God also said to me that he wouldn't put me into this position without Him showing and telling me what I need to know.. God showed me so many videos about falling back. I only continued for a few days but I noticed that God takes it very seriously. Just be careful and have God and Jesus our Lord and saviour as your priority. God bless
I agree, and not just christians, but in general. Spending too much time researching the occult can be dangerous. One thing leads to another and to another and to another. That rabbit hole is never ending.
 

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I belive nAMj00n might be handler. Let's think. The guy has ok background to have nice education and be successful in life and he is naturally not stupid. Why he decided to join the boy band in absolutely unknown company such as bighiiit?! Plus he even couldn't dance or sing and knew he doen't have appealing appearance which is extremely important for an idol. Most of parents against their children going to showbiz cs there's very small chances to become big and than you will struggle in future, even being trainee in big company doesn't promise u even 20% of success..He knew they will blow up, he was writing their satanic lyrics long ago back than and planing concept with their team for all these years. This is explains why he knows eng slang so good, i'm sure there's a lot of eng speakers working for them since it is such a massive project. I think they told him some of them are hardly under control from childhood and taught him how to control them. Have u ever noticed sometimes members can be rude to oldest, to Jin or Hobi, but never to him? Plus some of them admitted they feel uncomfortable near him. I also noticed Jin, jimin and jk often play near him like puppies and do everything he says. But he is a loner among them, and u can see all arrogance in his behavior toward them, he just knows more than them. I dont think he is the only bad guy in their band, but he is the one who doesn't struggle at all. So his relationships with jimin like dog with gis owner. (Discl: it is not fact, just my fantasy and opinion)
True.. I feel the same..
 

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Notes:
*cooky caption "masquerade"
*good catch on R`J alpaca having a 'pure lineage' passed through generations this may be a hint.
And him coming from wealth its not much of a reach if he/family comes connected to a secret society like the fr`emas`ons. Also, them sporting n`azi gear before and (this might be a reach) going to the holoc4ust memorial and the colour of the alpaca being white leads me to think about the agenda of the 3rd reich being aryan race aka white supremacy or a supremacy of a group (seems elitist)
*sh00ky being an 'evil one' reminds me of what @love lucy said about him being an evil one more than the leader. hm..
*tata having powers and being an alien reminds me again of what @love lucy said about him being a moon child and having indigo soul (clairvoyant-having powers)
*M`ng wow he was in the surrealist ball that horse head. And I see they often only show 1 side of his face. so its a one eye
one eye m`ang
And interesting this tweet of mango has a caption "masquerade" while m`ang is sideview with one eye
m`ango also seems close to v`an
*K`oya also has insomnia and I wonder why r`m wants to listen to songs while they sleep they might get insomnia like k`oya
*Nice ch1mmy and his harmonica playing pied piper sticking tongue out like to tease the brainwashed ppl.

AND
V`an not on the list ? I wonder who he is supposed to represent (note I forgot you said they v`an represents the ar`m1es but I think he represents another thing really> illuminaughty
But also the name van if you change one letter, it easily becomes the word "fan" and van kinda sound like fan too, they rhyme with each other
Uhm here he is towering over them
Not sinister at all :rolleyes:
and a black sun? or moon behind them
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here v`an big surveillance at the background
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https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/bt21-van-theory-analysis/KW8P_qWbcMuB2oZdEnejarmLPzKE4QK8wr7
Even van's eye mask here is one eyed
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This tweet
2 characters missing (doggo and alien t`ata) wonder where they are?
https://twitter.com/BT21_/status/1011410636213850112

One eye m`ang and the one eye van who is at the back
https://twitter.com/BT21_/status/1009315770218655744
I wonder who drew these characters ... I don't want to believe that the members drew them...
Even if they show members drawing these... I bet that would be staged...

And van is their caretaker.. Their robot and their vehicle.. Van as in the vehicle van maybe.. Then how is ot supposed to be representing army...
As a robot only.. Yes..

But as a caretaker and a vehicle... No
 

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I belive nAMj00n might be handler. Let's think. The guy has ok background to have nice education and be successful in life and he is naturally not stupid. Why he decided to join the boy band in absolutely unknown company such as bighiiit?! Plus he even couldn't dance or sing and knew he doen't have appealing appearance which is extremely important for an idol. Most of parents against their children going to showbiz cs there's very small chances to become big and than you will struggle in future, even being trainee in big company doesn't promise u even 20% of success..He knew they will blow up, he was writing their satanic lyrics long ago back than and planing concept with their team for all these years. This is explains why he knows eng slang so good, i'm sure there's a lot of eng speakers working for them since it is such a massive project. I think they told him some of them are hardly under control from childhood and taught him how to control them. Have u ever noticed sometimes members can be rude to oldest, to Jin or Hobi, but never to him? Plus some of them admitted they feel uncomfortable near him. I also noticed Jin, jimin and jk often play near him like puppies and do everything he says. But he is a loner among them, and u can see all arrogance in his behavior toward them, he just knows more than them. I dont think he is the only bad guy in their band, but he is the one who doesn't struggle at all. So his relationships with jimin like dog with gis owner. (Discl: it is not fact, just my fantasy and opinion)
Same here he’s definitely a sub handler I remember when they had that English after school club interview and Jimin wanted to be the MC but Namjoon was all like “it’s my turn to talk Jimin cuz I’m the MC I have the right to control you”

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Like I know that can be taken outta of context but damn Namjoon is just so arrogant and controlling I wouldn’t be surprised whatsoever
 

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Ok so to address the luciferian issue. This is how luciferians believe. Now I will say that no matter what they claim, in the end satanism/luciferianism/occultism are ALL the same, different name but the core, the main core is the same. Each one differs in various ways on the surface but under the surface, they're the same. Most luciferians will say it is not a religion but more of a philosophy of life. luciferians do not associate themselves with satanists, as they see anyone that worships anything as evil as how satan is portrayed as pyschotic. That's why the see lucifer as "good" the angel of light. Luciferians DO engage in rituals of various sorts.

The Luciferianism is not a branch of Satanism,
and its main difference is just the focus that it gives to
rebellion, the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom,
the individual growth, pushing the limits and self-improvement,
self- discipline, spiritual excellence, independence and mostly freedom.

Luciferianism is an affirmative doctrine that seeks the virtues listed above,

instead of mere opposition to the way of being of Christians that characterizes Satanism. His followers do not worship Lucifer (seen by them as an Angel, or an archetype and not as the embodiment evil in Christianity), but see it as a reference to achieve Spiritual Enlightenment. Given that the origin of its name means Bearer of the Torch .


Luciferians strive for balance between the primal instincts which motivate our designs in life (darkness); with self-determination in maintaining self-control and applying our ability to use reason and logic (light). This symbol of unity of darkness (instinct, emotion) and light (intellect, logic) sparks the Black Flame (inspired imaginative consciousness and potential towards your True Will). This is represented as Liberation, the conscious act of logically destroying restrictive dogma, especially if uncomfortable to gain new levels of insight and power; Illumination is the achievement of the insight of the experience.

The Luciferian philosophy is easily defined as the self-determined path towards potential with a balance between actualizing results in material and spiritual aims. Luciferianism advocates seeking knowledge for a goal-oriented purpose, gaining insight from experience and power from evolving and becoming towards a potential in self-excellence. To challenge and question restrictive belief and dogmatic religion requires courage and a path to the knowledge you seek. This is called Liberation, breaking the chains of ignorance. To seek knowledge to apply towards gaining insight as well as goals is called Illumination. To become aware that you can shape your life by your Will, Desire and Belief is continual Apotheosis.

When I became luciferian what appealed to me was that they didn't worship any deity, but that was just on the surface, once you are indoctrinated, initiated into a sect, and start moving up it becomes clear that you do in fact worship lucifer. It's very very decieving. Freemasons, and Eastern Stars (female group of freemasons, as only men are allowed into freemasonry) are indeed luciferian. In the Order of the Eastern Star, you do the same as Freemasons.

Eastern Star symbol
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Hope this clears up any confusion. Most atheists will lean more towards the luciferian doctrine as they "claim" no deity.
 

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So, I numbered the symbols from numbers 1-8
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For #1, I agree it looks like the baphomet with the horns.
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Or #1 could also be the "aries" horoscope:
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#5 and #8 look like two different drawings for the all seeing eye of the illuminati or eye of horus
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#4 looks like a triangle/pyramid
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I can also see #5 as a crescent moon over the sun.
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#6 looks like the freemason logo
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The most common is that the "G" stands for God, and is to remind Masons that God is at the center of Freemasonry. In this context it can also stand for Great Architect of the Universe (a non-denominational reference to God).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_and_Compasses

#3 looks like the symbol for the number Pi
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#2 looks like two diamonds intersect to form an infinity symbol
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I can't figure out #7 looks like a road sign lol or some occult ritual symbolism it has a circle with the square inside and two X arrows intersecting
#6 looks like a variant of the luciferian symbol

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#7 looks like the middle of this luciferian symbol.

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I've seen #2 somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where.
 
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