Anybody remember enderpotato? Anyhow, I would say both. It is likely that some left or right of center gravitate towards forums like this which is to be expected. And then there are some who argue about very limited subject matter, like religion which almost seems like an agenda or distraction. Trolls tend to return as well and some think everything they read here is real which is scary too. It is okay for people to talk religion until the cows come in, but rarely if ever is anything achieved. Instead we have circular arguments which in time turn into something ugly. Even the most restrained person will in time be set off by somebody cracking on their religion. But the ones who bug me are the splitters. Those who take a Muslim stand one minute, a Christian stand the next, not to mention agnostic takes as well and then sit back and enjoy the chaos created. The crazy thing is Christians and Muslims are similar in moral issues, yet are conveniently divided to take the focus off other issues. Back to the mosh pit. Disclaimer, the core group is for the most part decent here and it is shameful that newcomers have to prove their worth because of Chas and others which makes the forum seem paranoid, which is what some want you to think to begin with.