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JinnieAnne

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It wasn't my intention to get us all riled up in religion, and for that, I'm sorry. My reason for posting my religious views were to give some background as to why I think WE need to do something about the mischief happening in our world. If someone can direct me to a thread where these ideas can be entertained further, please let me know. As I said before, I'm only halfway through this thread so I don't know if anyone has already suggested we DO something or if it's just more and more commenting on what bt$ is up to. I understand they are what this thread is about, but this thread does no good if we don't do anything with the information. I don't know who said it, but someone here said we are replacing our obsession of bt$ with an obsession of seeing just how "far" they've gone into the occult. If nothing proactive is being done with the information we are sharing, then aren't we just going around in circles? :( If you are worried about one of them being sacrificed, why aren't you asking what you can do about it? We aren't powerless, people. Look what ARMii has accomplished! Enough people demanding change can make change happen. Enough people at a concert can make a difference in those boys' lives.
Hi! I've discovered this forum a few months ago, but this is the first time I write something,because I never knew what to write. :))) But I can give some answers at some of your questions about religion but it will take some time because there are a lot of things to write. And I hope my answer will clarify some things. Can I post here or I should make another thread where we can talk about this? Thank you.
 

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Yeah.. I wouldn't recommend western or kpop music unless its piano or something
I usually fall asleep to Ghibli soundtracks do you think it's fine or dangerous perhaps ? :( (music is therapeutic for me what shall i listen to not get brainwash ?)
 

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I usually fall asleep to Ghibli soundtracks do you think it's fine or dangerous perhaps ? :( (music is therapeutic for me what shall i listen to not get brainwash ?)
Don't be scared of music. True Music is good. Good music depends on what spirit it comes from. Listen to a band on the good path and the spirit of truth will be in their music. The spirit is shown by the fruits. If you feel annoyed, uncomfortable (seriously), or feel any negative energy there is a bad spirit.
Don't be scared music.
The arts and all these gifts are purely good if they're used in the right way. If something is wrong you will know, don't worry.
 

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Don't listen to their music yet but Bangtan is definitely on the right path. Soon it will be safe for all of us to enjoy their concerts again thanks to this beautiful gift of life.
Pray for the members so they can feel peace and not be scared, they are answering important questions now before the next album.
 

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Don't be scared of music. True Music is good. Good music depends on what spirit it comes from. Listen to a band on the good path and the spirit of truth will be in their music. The spirit is shown by the fruits. If you feel annoyed, uncomfortable (seriously), or feel any negative energy there is a bad spirit.
Don't be scared music.
The arts and all these gifts are purely good if they're used in the right way. If something is wrong you will know, don't worry.
Thank you for the great answer God bless you <3
 
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Man this guy confuse the sh*t out of me..
I don't even know what to think about him anymore because the more I read this thread and was watching this videos, I really got confuse about who he is.
Compared to the others idk why i really can't loose my appreciation for t@ehyung..
He is mysterious, but I understand because he is a capricorn like me..
Help me i'm lost..
Same lol he was my Ultimate bias before I saw this thread he is so confusing honestly
One thing I always hear about him is that he’s humble away from the cameras this comes from fans and even fans parents but I really don’t understand him well like I do the other members now
We really need more Arm¥ to wake up and gain enough strength in numbers to even make an impact tbh. I also believe in prayer and honestly had been praying one night about whether or not I should invest any more time into "exposing the boys being illuminati" or should I just walk away entirely from it all. Mainly because by continueing to do so I'd have to watch their stuff, and be focusing a lot of time talking about the occult. I had stopped due to me spending too much time on the boys and occult stuff and not enough on scripture and godly things and felt convicted of it. I have alot of notes and half started blogs. Anyways the next day is when @DarkAndWild found my posts in amino & suggested this forum. I believe my prayer (request for guidance) was answered. It's inspired me to start writing again and hopefully we as a group now can reach the numbers needed to get noticed. Idk if this makes sense. Even if we don't reach the actual members just reaching some blindly obsessed fans is worth it.
Yes we should do something we don’t have to teach great lengths but we could help ARMYs who are in the same position as people here before they found this thread
 
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H0rn signs vl!ve f3sta 2018 (edit: idk if this a horn sign or sh@ka sign that surfers use) Honestly in Bt$ 1lluminati context and media, you can never be too safe.
A skeptical part of me wants to say he just does it cuz many people are doing it and thinks its 'cool' but also with the things, I know now about symbolism, maybe its not that innocent.
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See 2nd gif
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And J1n, idk if this was before or after his grandma passed away but...
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Idk who thought of this move but they really look like puppets.
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3 stars and bt$ logo; occult symbol
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https://pazorie.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F174810836400
Im sure this must mean something (end of fake love). It looks like they're worshipping something
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And J1n, idk if this was before or after his grandma passed away but...
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This was shot even before their comeback. They did mention that if this clip was out for the fans, it should be around the time they were promoting LY, but the fact was they were still preparing for their comeback.

And yes, this only shows how much B!g H!t has prepared before hand. Everything they do for the fans obviously needs a lot of preparation and brain-storming.
 

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Horn signs vl!ve f3sta 2018
A skeptical part of me wants to say he just does it cuz many people are doing it and thinks its 'cool' but also with the things, I know now about symbolism, its not that innocent.
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See 2nd gif
https://kookiexinfires.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F174806065167 Eye of horus

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And J1n, idk if this was before or after his grandma passed away but...
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Idk who thought of this move but they really look like puppets.
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3 stars and bt$ logo; occult symbol
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https://pazorie.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F174810836400
Im sure this must mean something (end of fake love). It looks like they're worshipping something
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Oh snap, I did the first sign JH is doing sometimes bc I thought it meant something along the lines of "hang low" etc. & the index and pinky finger sign was the horned sign. Whoops.

The puppet thing is so sad irl context, they're literally what they're dancing as :,(
 
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Oh snap, I did the first sign JH is doing sometimes bc I thought it meant something along the lines of "hang low" etc. & the index and pinky finger sign was the horned sign. Whoops.

The puppet thing is so sad irl context, they're literally what they're dancing as :,(
I searched and it said it was this thing called the shaka sign. Used by surfers. Tbh, it looks like a horn to me and in occult context you never know, it might stand for the devil again for them.
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The Devil’s Horns should not be confused with the Shaka sign, or “hang loose” sign. Emerging from Hawaiian surf culture the sign is made with the hand making a fist while the thumb and pinkie stick out.
https://illuminatisymbols.info/spotting-illuminati-hand-signs-devils-horns-vs-ily-sign-vs-shaka-sign/

And yes, them being puppets is literally in their choreography and also in F L J!m!n has that part where he is at the centre and he motions to like a puppeteer.
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Christina D.

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I searched and it said it was this thing called the shaka sign. Used by surfers. Tbh, it looks like a horn to me and in occult context you never know, it might stand for the devil again for them.
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And yes, them being puppets is literally in their choreography and also in F L J!m!n has that part where he is at the centre and he motions to like a puppeteer.
Oh wow thank you. I also noticed how one of the variations also means "I love you" in sign language, very odd considering what it represents.
 

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My post is not related to B_T_S, it,'s related to religionbut I really felt the need to answer. From my personal experience I know that God is just amazing.Discovering Him was the most beautiful and fascinating experience of my life. I was born into an Orthodox Christian family(I live in Eastern Europe and the majority of people here are Orthodox and I just looove my religion and I wouldn't change it for nothing in this world.)

Christianity is just the most beautiful and perfect religion ever, but unfortunately many people don't appreciate it or don't actually know what the true Christianity is. There are so many Christian sects and cults and they have different interpretations of the Bible and this is not OK. And I don't want to offend anybody and I respect everybody but not all of the religions or cults are correct, because there can't be more truths but One truth. And Jesus Christ said that He is the Truth AND the Life.And the Orthodox Church never changed over the centuries and it is based on Jesus Christ Himself. But again I respect everybody's beliefs as long as their beliefs don't affect negatively the others.

But even if I was raised in a pretty religious family I was far away from God and my mind was full of bad thoughts and I was suffering from anxiety and I was about to make a big mistake that could have distroyed my life, but God protected me and now I am so thankful.

It's not about going to hell or heaven. It's about having a relationship with God,it's about letting Him embrace you and about accepting His love. Heaven(or I should say God's Kingdom) and hell are first of all in our hearts. If you let God love you and heal you and if you live with and for Him everything becomes easier. When you love someone you are able to do a lot of things for that person even if it seems hard.

God's commandments for example are not given to us to irritate us or make us feel pressed or stressed because we can't do what we want, but to guide us in life and to protect us from what could harm us and destroy outlr lives. And sins destroy us and we can't deny this,because we see what's happening in the world. When we sin our life our life becomes a chaos and sin doesn't affect only me but also the people around me. The commandments are actually God's love for us. God is not threatening us, He is warning us:"Don't do this because you will suffer." And we can see what's happening in the world:so many addictions,so much pain. We all have free will and people choose to sin and then they suffer. The suffering is not God's punishment, but the consequence of our sins and the suffering can also be a way of turning back to God and a life lesson.

About the thing with fearing God. We know from the Bible that "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of the wisdom". But it's not OK if we obey God only because of fear. God is love and He identifies Himself as our Father. Here it's about another kind of fear. It's not about terror, but the fear of not loosing God because we chose to go on a wrong way. But we have to admit that sometimes this fear of God can be very good. You know why? Because if people would fear God a little, maybe there wouldn't be so much corruption, so many crimes, so much bullying etc.

But even if we choose to reject God and we do a lot of bad things, He doesn't love us less than before. His love is exactly the same for everybody. Christianity is the religion of love. Not blind tolerance to the bad thing, but true love. God hates sins because they destroy humans, but Loves the sinner. The parable of the lost son said by Jesus Christ describe perfectly God's love for us and I always get very emotional every time I remember it. The son left his father, he spent his fortune,he lived a sinful life, he lost everything and he regretted what he did. And when he came back home, he didn't expect to be completely forgiven, but what happened? His father saw him coming and he run to him and he hugged and kissed him, because he was happy that his son is back home,this meaning that his father has been for him since the day he left.

And yes, I know that a lot of Christians are feeling pressed or stressed by their faith, but that's because it's not explained correctly. And a lot of people have a wrong conception about God. They just don't know Him, Who and How He truly is.And we need to know Him.

And also, we can't change the others. We don't have this power. We can only change ourselves. And the others will see the changes and maybe one day they will turn back to God and change their bad behaviours. Miracles happen. People can change, because I am one of the people who changed. We can only give advices, warn the people, try to make them change their mind, try to "seduce" them with our joy :)))), pray for them etc, but we can't force anybody to change.It's their decision and of course God will make a way.

I am sorry if my post was a little bit too long and I hope it didn't bore you, but I felt I needed to say this. I hope this help you clarify some things. And I also hope that someone understands me. And I am sorry if I made some grammar errors. English is not my first language. Thank you very much for reading this. :):D <3
 
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This was shot even before their comeback. They did mention that if this clip was out for the fans, it should be around the time they were promoting LY, but the fact was they were still preparing for their comeback.

And yes, this only shows how much B!g H!t has prepared before hand. Everything they do for the fans obviously needs a lot of preparation and brain-storming.
They're like carefully packaged products. Controlled and molded. To sell to the masses. Case in point:
https://btsdiary.com/2018/06/09/picture-2018-bts-festa-bts-manual-guide-180809/
They have a "user manual" and their poses makes them look like robots. People will say this is just a 'concept'. A thought would be this might be pushing the transhumanism agenda (people turning non-human / robots/ slaves- although many are slaves to the system already)
Transhumanism is the belief or theory that the human race can evolve beyond its current physical and mental limitations, especially by means of science and technology .
With this much preparation. I'm thinking, is occult/ 1lluminati symbolism just a coincidence? Hmmm. I think not.

Their vlive f3sta (I have trouble watching it fully now that I know this much occult related things connected to them). Maybe you guys can see something:
 
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So about the D@egu boys, Sug@r and V. I found out that where they come from in Daegu and I quote: "Has the only known satanic Korean church which is in the capital. It also has a pyramid structure which is 40 ft. tall located in a small park of the East Daegu train station that also connects to the city subway in a pyramid shape.
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You can see this in the video starts @ 18:10. Also, the video talks about other K-pop stars who died suspiciously (L@d!es C0d3):
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoido_Full_Gospel_Church


Seems that V or Sug@r might be very well exposed to the occult and their proximity and presence of the satanic church being in their region coincidence? Hm.

Also, one of the rappers Prodigy talked about illuminati. He said he planted seeds in his music and one of his famous lyrics (which is sampled in many music today include) :
"Illuminati want my mind, soul and my body
Secret Society trying to keep their eye on me"


He talks also talks in the lyrics about how they want to make him sound "insane" by talking about stuff like this. And el!te want to make people confused:
"This is not a theory, lift the spirits, see his spirit
They wanna put me in a strait jacket in a padded room
And tell the world there's 12 monkeys so they can be confused"


Here is the MV (kinda illustrates the elite agenda/NWO):

Prodigy died age 42 (4+2=6, an occult number) and Date of death: June 20, 2017 (month of June, occult sacrifice month) and Cause of death: "accidental choking" while getting treatment for his sickle cell anemia.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/prodigy-dead-mobb-deep-choke-egg-coroner-cause-of-death-a7876811.html

Another interview, N.O.R.E. and I quote: "When you get to a point/ to a level of success. When you get 30, 40, 50 thousand a show, you platinum. And you running across the world. There's 3 different doors, there's 3 different ways to walk: there's to the left, there's to the right and then there's straight". Straight path is your on your own, lets see if you continue your success, lets see if its all about your skills. To the right I'm not sure if thats the
homo
right there and then there's to the left some
sacrifice
. And he said: "I chose to go straight and haven't gone platinum since".


Goes to show everything has a price. When you wanna get to some point at the top, the elite control the gateway. Imho, its pervasive now in any kind of genre of music.

Here is the video:


Then, lastly I came across how symbols are important to the elite/ !lluminati as a form of communication. In the video and I quote: "A symbol is anything that is agreed upon that designates something else. The advantage of symbols is that they may communicate complex concepts while being simple [...]. When a symbol is repeatedly used in the same context, agreement regarding that symbols meaning is formed (Note: Why illuminati members keep parading those symbols around- eye of horus, horns, 6s, pyramid/triangles, stars/pentagram etc.,). As time progresses, the symbol's meaning solidifies. If symbols were used randomly, with constantly changing meanings, and associations, then they fail to be symbols at all. After all what good is a symbol that means something different each and every time you see it?

Note: This is a solid argument to those who think that elite/ !lluminati symbolism is just a joke/ nothing to be taken seriously.

The whole video is worth a watch. The part I quoted is from 7:08:


Also, want to note on this: I think (its a sacrific3)
Look at this instagram pics from K. Sp4de husband @ndy Sp4de (looks like a p3d0 tweet, Mk ultra stuff):
And K4te did say on her suicide note: "ask your father"
A commenter said: "He's indicating his daughter is an "Alice" lost in Wonderland aka a mind control sex doll. Or at least, that is what this photo would have meant if that were me and my father took it."
https://twitter.com/Lindee_n/status/1004769475852369920
Sick person SMH out there living
Great video.. And he's right about the constantly used symbols .. Thay use them again and again to show their faithfulness

Great post..

And that lovely daughter of k4te sp4de.. It's so hurting to know that she has to grow without her mom now and already there are symbolisms around her.. Black and white checkerboard floor and owls and white rabbit which is followed by alice into a hole
 

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The meaning of meaning. The truth of truth. There is one truth, there is one justice. They were founded on the truth, the foundation was the truth. That is why you see ripe fruits, they smart they know the way. The are smart, that's why Kim Namjoon is so smart. God bless that man let the love multiply on truth. You're foundation must be truth, if it is all will follow. Yoongi's core was truth, that truth he shared to those who could see. Could see. Namjoon was founded on the truth. That why the IQ, when you're founded on the truth. This is goodness that happens you. God bless the bulletproof. You are bulletproof, God is in you. That's the truth, death is dead. I am in the army of the lord, so they know truth. They have seen evils we will never imagine, they have seen goodness in the army of the Lord. The foundation was the truth, they were lost and know they are found. We are army. Claim love they gave us. The truth in them, helped my faith. The light in them made me see. That there must good, I felt the pain in the very debts of theirs souls. You felt the pain in the debts of their souls. THAT IS WHY THEYRE FAMOUS. THAT IS WHY THEYRE SMART. THAT IS WHY WE LIKE THEM. MEANING OF LOVE AND THE MEANING OF MEANING.
We have meaning does in the army of the lord.
God bless Bts. The truth, is so strong in you. There's nothing you love that there isn't truth. You are free. You are free. Open your eyes.
WE ARE ARMY.
CLAIM THE GOODNESS THEY DID TO US
THEYRE LOVE WAS FAKE LOVE
AND THEY KNEW IT BUT THEY HAD HOPE AND HOPE IN US
HOPE IN THEMSELVES
HOPE IN GOODNESS
HOPE
I AM ARMY
AMEN
HE LEAD THEM
AMEN
WE ARE BULLLETPROOF.
THERE IS ONLY GOOD IN THE WORLD.
ONE TRUTH. ONE COIN.
TWO SIDES OF ONE COIN.
BUT IN THIS COIN, THERE IS ONLY ONE HEAD.
WE ARE IN TRUTH.
DEATH DOES NOT EVEN EXIST.
LOVE IS TRUTH.
LOVE YOURSELF GUIDED NOT BY YOURSELVES.
That's the truth.
:)
I am now proud to say I am ARMY because I know I love them because of what they stand for and that is HOPE.
 

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H0rn signs vl!ve f3sta 2018 (edit: idk if this a horn sign or sh@ka sign that surfers use) Honestly in Bt$ 1lluminati context and media, you can never be too safe.
A skeptical part of me wants to say he just does it cuz many people are doing it and thinks its 'cool' but also with the things, I know now about symbolism, maybe its not that innocent.
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See 2nd gif
https://kookiexinfires.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F174806065167 Eye of horus

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And J1n, idk if this was before or after his grandma passed away but...
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Idk who thought of this move but they really look like puppets.
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3 stars and bt$ logo; occult symbol
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https://pazorie.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F174810836400
Im sure this must mean something (end of fake love). It looks like they're worshipping something
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They just can't keep their hands straight .. Can they :D..

And this dinner thing was recorded a while back.. Before the promotions

And yes they all did the puppet dance.. Jimin and v wese shown to be in control mostly..

And yes the last ending part of FL is not much talked about
 

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Guys i am sorry to say.. And don't want to be rude. But i think the thread is moving off the track a bit.. Let's keep all our focus on the boys.. This way the newbies joining would think of this as another religion related thread which are already many.. B4ngtans one is this only one..
Even i have started to skip reading posts now.. Please again let's keep all our focus on exposing the occult related to the b4ngtan boys ..
 

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This actually makes sense now. Before, i never really got into voting for them for the mama awards or anything like that because I always knew that it wouldn't mattet if I vote for them or not, they'll still win. Even if ex0 had more votes then them on the final day of voting. It kinda doesn't make any sense to even support them if they're fame is already planned out. And idk why but it always erked my nerves the way @rmys would stream their videos, like someone posted on fb going to the @pple store and playing bt$ MVs on all of the laptops at the same time. Like you could be putting that same amount of energy in your school work or other taking care of other responsibilities. Sometimes I wouldn't even know what to do with myself, like "should I study or should I watch all of their post vlive videos all over again. " It really feels like your in a trap.
Yesterday on YouTube i was listening to ddaeng.. And was reading the comments along it.. There were people who were saying..

" sadly this isn't this on spotify or Apple store ... We wanted to stream it "

I mean they have streaming in their blood now.. They do it even if they don't want to... Or don't have the time.. They'll do it
 
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