The Gaza Riots

manama

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By the way, a Hamas official confirmed that 50 of 60 reported killed were Hamas militants.

So we have Hamas openly calling for everyone to come to the border with guns and knives, and we also learn from Hamas that almost all of those killed were terrorists, but you clowns are still insisting everything is benign and Israel is slaughtering innocent protesters. How blind can you be?
How convenient right?

I bet that 8 month old was also a Hamas militant, the people on wheelchairs were also Hamas militants.
 

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Zionists are occupying Palestinian land and when they fight back you call them terrorists? Go take your trash elsewhere, clown.
Hamas is a terrorist group and they are corroborating what I'm saying. So tell me who's lying.
 

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How convenient right?

I bet that 8 month old was also a Hamas militant, the people on wheelchairs were also Hamas militants.
As I said, Hamas lists deaths unrelated to any Israeli action as victims.

As for the guys in wheelchairs, take a look at the guy on crutches who's running and jumping around.

You're being played.
 

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As I said, Hamas lists deaths unrelated to any Israeli action as victims.

As for the guys in wheelchairs, take a look at the guy on crutches who's running and jumping around.

You're being played.
I'm not being played, and I can't even say that you are being played because being too dumb to comprehend a simple situation is just being dumb.
There were journalists in the protests who were killed, is everyone a Hamas militant now? This is no different than ISIS taking responsiblity for every person who even sneezes in the west. I believe in video evidence more than I give a fuck about some stupid facebook posts.

Facebook takes down every white trash's profile who shot someone but Terrorists groups? lets give them snapchat. Get a life, stop sucking Israel off. You are trying to justify a genocide, you need help.
 

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Throwing rocks isn’t really a terrorist attack, sorry. There are ways to deal with that which don’t include gunning down dozens of people.

The entire international community is denouncing what happened (except the USA of course cuz we suck), somehow YOU know better than the entire international community?
Unfortunately, Ayelet Shaked, the *Justice* minister will have none of what you're saying.

Israel will lock up stone throwers for 20yrs

“Tolerance toward terrorists ends today. A stone-thrower is a terrorist and only a fitting punishment can serve as a deterrent and just punishment,” Israel’s Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked, of the far-right Jewish Home party, said in a statement.
 

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Note how I'm always called a liar, but no one ever refutes what I'm saying.
I have pointed out your inconsistencies and inaccuracies and I have been correct when I have done so. But I dont think I have ever outright called you a liar have I?
 

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I read a rather rediculous AP account of the situation the other day. It mentioned how Hamas "stormed to power in a violent overthrow"......
If winning democratic elections imposed on them by the Bush regime is equal to a violent overthrow, what does that make the Trump regime? This was printed in a mid-major cities newspaper and since it was an AP article, likely many others as well.
 

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I'm not being played, and I can't even say that you are being played because being too dumb to comprehend a simple situation is just being dumb.
What am I supposed to do with the facts, if I am to believe that these weren't riots, but peaceful protests? Islamic militants setting fires and throwing bombs, while while attacking an international border, is a riot by anyone's definition, but you want me to think this is peaceful? I can't do that.

There were journalists in the protests who were killed, is everyone a Hamas militant now?
Yes, at least one of them was. Hamas members dress up as journalists, medics, women, etc.

This is no different than ISIS taking responsiblity for every person who even sneezes in the west. I believe in video evidence more than I give a fuck about some stupid facebook posts.
Here is Salah Al Bardawil, senior Hamas official, telling us that of 62 people killed, 50 of them were Hamas soldiers, and of all the deaths previous to this, half of them were also Hamas.


It turns out that of the non-Hamas casualties, there were several members of Islamic Jihad, and as we've seen in the past, Hamas will count any death, from any cause, as a victim of Israel, I bet that not one innocent person has been shot by Israel at these "protests".

Even if I'm wrong, I find it very difficult to believe that Israel was firing indiscriminately into a crowd of 40,000, as most of you seem to believe, but managed to hit pretty much only Hamas and Islamic Jihad soldiers. Can you explain how this is possible?

Facebook takes down every white trash's profile who shot someone but Terrorists groups? lets give them snapchat. Get a life, stop sucking Israel off. You are trying to justify a genocide, you need help.
Terrorist groups are all over social media. Maybe you find it easy to take the position you do because you're not up to date on what's actually happening, but I actually pay attention to what's going on, and I can't ignore facts like you seem to be able to.

Also, "genocide"? There are now far more Palestinians living within the state of Israel than there were alive on earth when the nation of Israel was created. Palestinians as a group are growing faster than the global average, and when Israel was controlling Gaza, Palestinians were living longer than the global average.

In your world, riots by terrorist military groups are peaceful protests, and the above average growth of a people is genocide.
 

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being part of Hamas does not automatically mean they were doing anything violent or deserving of being shot. Hamas isn’t fully comprised of violent “terrorists”
Sure, a lot of them probably read to the blind on weekends and stuff, but Hamas is a terrorist organisation and it's stated goal is the destruction of the state of Israel. They have been pretty open about this.
 

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Terrorist groups are all over social media. Maybe you find it easy to take the position you do because you're not up to date on what's actually happening, but I actually pay attention to what's going on, and I can't ignore facts like you seem to be able to.

Also, "genocide"? There are now far more Palestinians living within the state of Israel than there were alive on earth when the nation of Israel was created. Palestinians as a group are growing faster than the global average, and when Israel was controlling Gaza, Palestinians were living longer than the global average.

In your world, riots by terrorist military groups are peaceful protests, and the above average growth of a people is genocide.
Are you serious? Palestine's population has been going down rapidly because of this ongoing genocide. Not only because of the massacre but because of Israel giving women shots to make them infertile without their knowledge, which also counts as a genocide.
And we are support to be thankful that a few Palestinians are being allowed to live in their OWN land?

Its not "my world" thats blind right now, its you and half of the west who think throwing rocks is a bigger crime than throwing grenades, raining bullets and shooting tear gas.

IDF didn't only kill Palestinians that day, they killed journalists and medics so the medics won't be able to tend to the wounded. Thats how disgusting the nation you are supporting is, and its more surprising that you call yourself a "Christian". i won't be surprised if you were to turn out some die hard stalker level fan of Anti-Christ.
 

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Who says they're a terrorist group, you?
Everyone, including Hamas, say they are a terrorist group. Canada, where you live, says they are, too.

Why did Israel fund Hamas if they're a terrorist group?
Iran is funding Hamas. Israel encouraged them ages ago, as a rival to Hamas, but they don't support or control Hamas, and you know this. Try harder.

Also, you never answered my question. Are you a terrorist when you try to fight off people occupying your land and homes?
It is literally like pulling teeth with you, KF. You keep saying the same old, dog with a bone, tired and ignorant things. You know Israel doesn't support Hamas, and you know that I reject the lie that Israel is occupying Palestine. I tend to go with a fact-based opinion when it comes to the middle east. You just hate Israel -- let's be honest, you hate Jews -- and that governs everything you believe about the situation.

Even if Palestine had a claim to the land, driving cars into crowds, randomly shooting people in the street, cutting the throats of children in their beds, are all terrorist acts in the eyes of most people. Hamas encourages, supports and financially rewards these kinds of horrendous, inhuman acts, but it's all just part of legitimate resistance in your eyes, right?
 

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What am I supposed to do with the facts, if I am to believe that these weren't riots, but peaceful protests? Islamic militants setting fires and throwing bombs, while while attacking an international border, is a riot by anyone's definition, but you want me to think this is peaceful? I can't do that.



Yes, at least one of them was. Hamas members dress up as journalists, medics, women, etc.



Here is Salah Al Bardawil, senior Hamas official, telling us that of 62 people killed, 50 of them were Hamas soldiers, and of all the deaths previous to this, half of them were also Hamas.


It turns out that of the non-Hamas casualties, there were several members of Islamic Jihad, and as we've seen in the past, Hamas will count any death, from any cause, as a victim of Israel, I bet that not one innocent person has been shot by Israel at these "protests".

Even if I'm wrong, I find it very difficult to believe that Israel was firing indiscriminately into a crowd of 40,000, as most of you seem to believe, but managed to hit pretty much only Hamas and Islamic Jihad soldiers. Can you explain how this is possible?



Terrorist groups are all over social media. Maybe you find it easy to take the position you do because you're not up to date on what's actually happening, but I actually pay attention to what's going on, and I can't ignore facts like you seem to be able to.

Also, "genocide"? There are now far more Palestinians living within the state of Israel than there were alive on earth when the nation of Israel was created. Palestinians as a group are growing faster than the global average, and when Israel was controlling Gaza, Palestinians were living longer than the global average.

In your world, riots by terrorist military groups are peaceful protests, and the above average growth of a people is genocide.
The only facts are that several people died. As to who believes whom to be the aggressor is obviously subjective in your case. There's a line in the sand between facts and propaganda.
 

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Are you serious? Palestine's population has been going down rapidly because of this ongoing genocide. Not only because of the massacre but because of Israel giving women shots to make them infertile without their knowledge, which also counts as a genocide.
Really, because here's how that genocide is going.


The global average for population growth is 1.1%, and the Palestinian growth rate is more than double that. How can you seriously say there is a genocide against the Palestinian people?

Its not "my world" thats blind right now, its you and half of the west who think throwing rocks is a bigger crime than throwing grenades, raining bullets and shooting tear gas.
You are not in any way acknowledging the evidence I am posting that these were Hamas-staged riots. I don't have anything more to say.
 

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The only facts are that several people died. As to who believes whom to be the aggressor is obviously subjective in your case. There's a line in the sand between facts and propaganda.
Have you read nothing I've been posting?
 

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I can't sway anyone here, so all I'm going to say is that this conflict is only going to end when Israel controls all of the Palestinian land and all of the Palestinians are dead or have moved elsewhere. It is a genocide. And I see no way that Palestine is going to win.
 

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Everyone, including Hamas, say they are a terrorist group. Canada, where you live, says they are, too.
Why would Hamas say he is a terrorist group?


Iran is funding Hamas. Israel encouraged them ages ago, as a rival to Hamas, but they don't support or control Hamas, and you know this. Try harder.
"The office of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert admitted on Wednesday that it is allowing the transfer of hundreds of millions of shekels to the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip every month."

^This Jew who is high up disagrees with you. Either way you look at it Israel created and funds Hamas. There is no trying harder only facts.



It is literally like pulling teeth with you, KF. You keep saying the same old, dog with a bone, tired and ignorant things. You know Israel doesn't support Hamas, and you know that I reject the lie that Israel is occupying Palestine. I tend to go with a fact-based opinion when it comes to the middle east. You just hate Israel -- let's be honest, you hate Jews -- and that governs everything you believe about the situation.

Even if Palestine had a claim to the land, driving cars into crowds, randomly shooting people in the street, cutting the throats of children in their beds, are all terrorist acts in the eyes of most people. Hamas encourages, supports and financially rewards these kinds of horrendous, inhuman acts, but it's all just part of legitimate resistance in your eyes, right?
The "same old" thing is the whole reason we are where we are in the ME. Israel funds Hamas and therefore supports Hamas, you even admitted that Israel once a upon time funded Hamas. You reject the supposed lie that Israel is occupying Palestine but the rest of the sane people in the world and the UN clearly state that Israel is occupying Palestine. If they weren't occupying Palestine they wouldn't be building settlements, controlling the air space, and or entrapping people within walls and make them use checkpoints. I understand seeing as you are Zionist that you have to lie but it's getting a little embarrassing now my young naive lying little child. Pull yourself together.

The only ones who have killed children thus far are the Israelis and this is evident in the death statistics of that area. Let's not forget not too long ago Israel killing children playing soccer on a beach now.

Israel is the occupying country trying to hold land that doesn't belong to them so of course, the people there are going to fight back. Like I said if you tried to invade my home and take it over, I would wreck you man to man of course ;)
 
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