Jerusalem is the capital of Israel

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This place is truly a microcosm of the world sometimes...

Thunderian if America is so great and you love trump so much why don’t u move here? Or to Israel?
I love living in Canada, but I love America, too. I don't love Trump, but I think he's doing an incredible job as president.

New England’s beautiful when the leaves are changing. Fun to do Salem and Boston for Halloween. Vermont is lovely just to drive around and take in the scenery

Canada and the USA have pretty strict border controls with each others citizens. Even a dui from 40years ago gets you turned away. They share the criminal database at point of entry. I have no issue getting in, husband does. Can’t do a cruise of Alaska even cuz they all have to make a token stop in Canada. It’s a little bit overkill imo, but apparently America started it so can’t blame the Canadians for doing the same.

I’ve been to Montreal Toronto and Niagara Falls in the past, enjoyed them all, way back when Toronto was the cleanest city I had ever seen lol.

America is a shithole, it confuses me why so many glorify it. And if it is so glorious why they aren’t jumping to move here themselves.

I spoke with a little boy who spends every summer in Norway today, even he said how shit America is. He made very good points. He’s nine.


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It's a shame your husband isn't allowed into Canada. I have Canadian friends who can't visit the US for the same reason.

But America is a wonderful place to live, as far as countries go. No country is perfect, but there are plenty that are much worse than the USA, and I know you don't agree, but you are blessed to live there.

Americans are generally great people, and they have a lot to be happy for and to be proud of. They're generous and always willing to help, and when you make friends with them, it means something. It's fashionable to make the US out to be the worst country imaginable -- it's all you hear from the left -- but there's a reason so many want to come to America. There's opportunity, and there is hope, for anyone who wants to work for it, and you really can't ask for more than that.
 

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Nah I get you and I don't disagree. It was a light reproach if I may be allowed to do so from time and I found the verse fitting because a certain poster can push one to the edge from time to time.

I don't like people falling into traps I've stumbled into from time to time in here lol. It's fruitless to trade blows with a drunk man.
I like your authenticity :)
 

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I want to know how one justifies shooting down people in cold blood for trying to pass a gate?
Go to any guarded international border, throw some rocks and bombs at it, then try and break through the barrier. See how you are treated.
 

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Charming video of the Turkish President talking more mindless drivel.
I always find it interesting when people who do not understand a phenomenon are quick to resort to generalizations upon the beliefs of entire populations.
For example when Hilary calls those that vote for Trump 'the deplorables'.I do not like the man but many of his followers had legitimate gripes.

If Muslims are keen on liberating Jerusalem, how about applying some pressure on their own leaders.
The time will come when we do this God willing, our populations are not as lukewarm or apathetic as others. Thankfully.
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Messianic U.S. Israel Axis Showcased at Jerusalem Embassy Ceremony



Today, unarmed Gazans died by the dozens simultaneously with a star-studded celebration in Jerusalem. American pastors John Hagee and Robert Jeffress, well-known bigots, preached and prayed. Donald Trump was practically worshiped. No amount of spin could turn this debacle into a genuinely admirable day for Israel.
by Chemi Shalev, Ha’aretz


continue reading here:
https://israelpalestinenews.org/messianic-u-s-israel-axis-showcased-at-jerusalem-embassy-ceremony/
 

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@DesertRose:
"The time will come when we do this God willing, our populations are not as lukewarm or apathetic as others. Thankfully.
bye"


Every time a political crisis erupts in the Middle East (or elsewhere in the Muslim World) and you start talking about eschatology, instead of accounting your own Muslim leaders for the degenerates that most of them are, you provide the likes of President Erdogan with a massive 'get out of jail, free' card ... !?

Eschatology (evidently) cannot be a solution to political failure. Having clarified and agreed on that (i hope!?), I'm content to leave the matter, here.
 

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Go to any guarded international border, throw some rocks and bombs at it, then try and break through the barrier. See how you are treated.
They KNEW there was going to be protest and unrest about this, they knew people were going to be upset and that they have a reason to be. You don’t provoke someone to anger then shoot them for throwing rocks. That’s baiting.

Netanyahu is an evil man. Trump is too.

You can say he is a great president but all he’s done has been horrible for me and millions like me in my country. That’s domestically. Internationally he’s screwing people over as well. It’s fun to watch from the safety and security of your own country that actually takes care of its citizens but you don’t have to deal with the repercussions
 

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Every time a political crisis erupts in the Middle East (or elsewhere in the Muslim World) and you start talking about eschatology, instead of accounting your own Muslim leaders for the degenerates that most of them are, you provide the likes of President Erdogan with a massive 'get out of jail, free' card ... !?

Eschatology (evidently) cannot be a solution to political failure. Having clarified and agreed on that (i hope!?), I'm content to leave the matter, here.
Just for the record, I have an entire thread on here called Saudi is 2-faced and comments discussing our failed leadership in the Muslim world. BTW I was addressing your sweeping ridicule of Erdogan's ideas which you called 'mindless drivel' highlighting your inability to understand the importance of the power of ideas and Islamic ideals.

I'm content to leave the matter, here.
Good idea.
 

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Turkey recalls ambassadors from US and Israel. South Africa recalls their ambassador from the apartheid state of Israel as well.

Caption under the video:
"The latest Israeli massacre of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip has triggered angry reactions from all over the world. The UN chief said it is important that Israel changes its use of force and minimizes the use of live ammunition. The French presidency also condemned the violence in the besieged enclave. Emmanuel Macron’s office said in a statement that he had warned repeatedly of the repercussions of the US President’s decision to recognize Jerusalem al-Quds as the capital of Israel. Kuwait has also slammed the Israeli brutalities in Gaza and has requested an emergency UN Security Council meeting. Meanwhile, South Africa has recalled its ambassador to Israel while Turkey recalled its envoys both from Israel and the US in protest over the Gaza killings and called for an emergency meeting of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has accused Israel of state terror and genocide."
 
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"American pastors John Hagee and Robert Jeffress, well-known bigots, preached and prayed. Donald Trump was practically worshiped!'
That 'orange cockatoo' (alas, not my wording) and his Zionist oppression front are 'enraptured' with their evil plans but they are like this!.:)
This picture of dancing skeletons highlights how they celebrate while they are bereft of human(e) qualities.
 
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Go to any guarded international border, throw some rocks and bombs at it, then try and break through the barrier. See how you are treated.
Probably not with cold blooded murder. These are supposed to be professionals, trained to handle these situations and that includes discerning between real, actualble threats and nuisances. I realize there are Palestinians who engage in outright terrorism, but most do not and the disproportional, violent and permanent response by the IDF equates to terrorism as well.
 

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Probably not with cold blooded murder. These are supposed to be professionals, trained to handle these situations and that includes discerning between real, actualble threats and nuisances. I realize there are Palestinians who engage in outright terrorism, but most do not and the disproportional, violent and permanent response by the IDF equates to terrorism as well.
Almost all of the people who were killed have been proven to be Islamic militants. Out of a crowd of 40,000, the IDF targeted 53 leaders and members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad whose intent was only to cause harm to the state of Israel. That's hardly a wild or disproportionate response. It's amazing, is what it is. Either the crowd was entirely made up of Hamas soldiers -- or the IDF are stone cold surgeons when it comes to the battlefield.

They're stone cold surgeons.


Word from Gaza is that Hamas was paying out rewards to anyone injured in the riots. That's why there's such a great difference between the number of injuries and and the number of deaths in the riots. And no one who died was holding a peace sign and singing Kumbayah. These were guys who were cutting the fence and otherwise overtly threatening Israel. Israel knows how bad Palestinian deaths make them look, even when it's violent terrorists who wish Israel harm. Do you really think the IDF is just going to fire wildly into a crowd of civilians? Why?

But it's over now. Ismail Haniyeh has been told to stop these riots and he's done so. I think Hamas will be done in Gaza soon, as well.
 

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Almost all of the people who were killed have been proven to be Islamic militants.
May the Creator guide you to that which is better.
May you repent of your support for Israeli terrorism and genocide and if you do not May he raise you with those who are responsible for these atrocities and also hold you accountable.
Ameen.
Gaza killings: Names and faces of those killed by Israeli forces this week
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Eight-month-old Laila is youngest Palestinian killed in Gaza on Monday, the deadliest day since 2014 war



From left: Ahmed Alrantisi, Laila Anwar Al-Ghandoor, Ahmed Altetr, Alaa Alkhatib Ezz el-din Alsamaak, Motassem Abu Louley (screengrab)



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Sixty-two people were either killed or died of wounds inflicted by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip on Monday and Tuesday as thousands of Palestinians demonstrated across the occupied territory to mark the 70th anniversary of the Nakba.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Gaza Ministry of Health released the names of 59 Palestinians killed:

1. Laila Anwar Al-Ghandoor, 8 months old

2. Ezz el-din Musa Mohamed Alsamaak, 14 years old

3. Wisaal Fadl Ezzat Alsheikh Khalil, 15 years old

4. Ahmed Adel Musa Alshaer, 16 years old

5. Saeed Mohamed Abu Alkheir, 16 years old

6. Ibrahim Ahmed Alzarqa, 18 years old

7. Eman Ali Sadiq Alsheikh, 19 years old

8. Zayid Mohamed Hasan Omar, 19 years old

9. Motassem Fawzy Abu Louley, 20 years old

10. Anas Hamdan Salim Qadeeh, 21 years old

11. Mohamed Abd Alsalam Harz, 21 years old

From left: Fadi Abu Salah, Motaz Al-Nunu, Jihad Mohammed Othman Mousa, Mousa Jabr Abdulsalam Abu Hasnayn, Ezz Eldeen Nahid Aloyutey, Anas Hamdan Salim Qadeeh

12. Yehia Ismail Rajab Aldaqoor, 22 years old

13. Mustafa Mohamed Samir Mahmoud Almasry, 22 years old

14. Ezz Eldeen Nahid Aloyutey, 23 years old

15. Mahmoud Mustafa Ahmed Assaf, 23 years old

16. Ahmed Fayez Harb Shahadah, 23 years old

17. Ahmed Awad Allah, 24 years old

18. Khalil Ismail Khalil Mansor, 25 years old

19. Mohamed Ashraf Abu Sitta, 26 years old

20. Bilal Ahmed Abu Diqah, 26 years old

21. Ahmed Majed Qaasim Ata Allah, 27 years old

From left: Mahmoud Wael Mahmoud Jundeyah, Ibrahim Ahmed Alzarqa, Musab Yousef Abu Leilah, Jihad Mufid Al-Farra, Saeed Mohamed Abu Alkheir, Mohamed Hasan Mustafa Alabadilah (screengrab)

22. Mahmoud Rabah Abu Maamar, 28 years old

23.Musab Yousef Abu Leilah, 28 years old

24. Ahmed Fawzy Altetr, 28 years old

25. Mohamed Abdelrahman Meqdad, 28 years old

26. Obaidah Salim Farhan, 30 years old

27. Jihad Mufid Al-Farra, 30 years old

28. Fadi Hassan Abu Salah, 30 years old

29. Motaz Bassam Kamil Al-Nunu, 31 years old

30. Mohammed Riyad Abdulrahman Alamudi, 31 years old

31. Jihad Mohammed Othman Mousa, 31 years old

32. Shahir Mahmoud Mohammed Almadhoon, 32 years old

33. Mousa Jabr Abdulsalam Abu Hasnayn, 35 years old

From left: Shahir Mahmoud Mohammed Almadhoon, Khalil Ismail Khalil Mansor, Mahmoud Saber Hamad Abu Taeemah, Mohamed Ashraf Abu Sitta, Mustafa Mohamed Samir Mahmoud Almasry, Obaidah Salim Farhan (screengrab)

34. Mohammed Mahmoud Abdulmoti Abdal’al, 39 years old

35. Ahmed Mohammed Ibrahim Hamdan, 27 years old

36. Ismail Khalil Ramadhan Aldaahuk, 30 years old

37. Ahmed Mahmoud Mohammed Alrantisi, 27 years old

38. Alaa Alnoor Ahmed Alkhatib, 28 years old

39. Mahmoud Yahya Abdawahab Hussain, 24 years old

40. Ahmed Abdullah Aladini, 30 years old

41. Saadi Said Fahmi Abu Salah, 16 years old

42. Ahmed Zahir Hamid Alshawa, 24 years old

43. Mohammed Hani Hosni Alnajjar, 33 years old

44. Fadl Mohamed Ata Habshy, 34 years old

45. Mokhtar Kaamil Salim Abu Khamash, 23 years old

46. Mahmoud Wael Mahmoud Jundeyah, 21 years old

47. Abdulrahman Sami Abu Mattar, 18 years old

48. Ahmed Salim Alyaan Aljarf, 26 years old

From left: Mohammed Hani Hosni Alnajjar, Yehia Ismail Rajab Aldaqoor, Mohammed Riyad Abdulrahman Alamudi, Ahmed Adel Musa Alshaer, Fadl Mohamed Ata Habshy, Ismail Khalil Ramadhan Aldaahuk (screengrab)

49. Mahmoud Sulayman Ibrahim Aql, 32 years old

50. Mohamed Hasan Mustafa Alabadilah, 25 years old

51. Kamil Jihad Kamil Mihna, 19 years old

52. Mahmoud Saber Hamad Abu Taeemah, 23 years old

53. Ali Mohamed Ahmed Khafajah, 21 years old

54. Abdelsalam Yousef Abdelwahab, 39 years old

55. Mohamed Samir Duwedar, 27 years old

56. Talal Adel Ibrahim Mattar, 16 years old

57. Omar Jomaa Abu Ful, 30 years old

58. Nasser Ahmed Mahmoud Ghrab, 51 years old

59. Bilal Badeer Hussein Al-Ashram, 18 years old

60 - 62: Unidentified
source: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-names-palestinians-killed-israel-us-embassy-1239370023
 
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