10 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God!

yiksmes

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I always wonder.. If Jesus came back, and we all recognise him and support him but the government would want to destroy him again.
This time, will we have a chance to protect him against such force? - Without godly influence.
 

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Nice, I didnt know that father wasnt in the originals. If this is the case, and Jesus didnt come to bring peace but division, how are we sure that the verse is speaking of him?
The Everlasting/ Eternal remains.

Starting at the end and working backward seems counterproductive. :/ What is your understanding of Christianity i.e. why Jesus came or incarnated in the first place... that might help on the peace/sword thing.
 

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I always wonder.. If Jesus came back, and we all recognise him and support him but the government would want to destroy him again.
This time, will we have a chance to protect him against such force? - Without godly influence.
So wonder no more.

He is coming on the clouds the commander in chief of God's heavenly hosts rumbling like lightning from the east flashing to the west. Look God of the universe with His angels covering the sky like a cloud. He is here...


John 5:28-29
“Do not be astonished at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and will come out—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.”
 
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A Hindu will say the same thing. The scriptures are the Hindu Holy Texts. God Own Book.

What is the difference between your "GOD CAN DO ANYTHING" and a Hindu "GOD CAN DO ANYTHING".
Seriously?!

Have you lost your mind?

Hindu “gods” are merely demons!

Look at how wicked these things are...they are straight out of Hell:

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If God who is a spirit to be born as a cow (Hindu God) then he just needs a biological body no problem. and according to Hindu Scripture not your sense of befitting God.

And that is why God was born a cow (may God save us all from such beliefs) to atone for sins with her? milk? sin no more, and even if you do sin, dont worry God is responsible for that not you.

All hail holy mother cow, because God CAN DO ANYTHING whether it befits his majesty or not.
But God wasn't born into a cow nor a human but his word manifested in the flesh of a man. You don't understand that so I don't think you would understand why Jesus came or what truly transpired on the cross let alone the workings of salvation through belief in the word of God.

I'm struggling tho ascertain whether you are attempting legitimate criticism or just providing diatribe on a topic you're ignorant to.
 

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So wonder no more.

He is coming on the clouds the commander in chief of God's heavenly hosts rumbling like lightning from the east flashing to the west. Look God of the universe with His angels covering the sky like a cloud. He is here...


John 5:28-29
“Do not be astonished at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and will come out—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.”
Sorry i should've chose my words more carefully =)
I meant came back but as a first time, not second coming as prophesied.
Would we be able to save him from the cross with our following in numbers power.



Maybe the Hinduism should have it's own topic =)
Because some believe before the corruption it was monotheistic.
 

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Sorry i should've chose my words more carefully =)
I meant came back but as a first time, not second coming as prophesied.
Would we be able to save him from the cross with our following in numbers power.
Save Him from the cross ?

But who would save us if we saved Him from the cross ?
 

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Yes.

He hung on the cross for us. Our crimes blotted out by His blood.


If you tried to save Him from the cross He would have asked you What you doing dawg ?
I never commited any crime and how can i watch someone so holly suffer and do nothing.
I don't think those words will stop some, only some force field would =)
 

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I am asking about the logical reasoning behind Christian "God Manifested in the flesh" and how it differs with Hindu "God Manifested in the flesh" ?
That's my point. You don't know the difference as, if I remember correctly because I'm not Hindu, the word of God among many other things are/will be made manifest whereas in Hinduism it's more a descent/avatarana of the gods.

See, I'm not Hindu nor do I know it well. You aren't a Christian or even well versed it. My point being you ask and assume the wrong things.

Here are all the verses where the word manifest appear.

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no one can kill or save God
I am with you

But my point is if Jesus really was on the cross, and if there is something he could say to stop most from trying to free him and fight the guards,
those words are not in the bible.

We not living in Eden, we living in hell on earth. Who we been saved from til now?

I am sorry for stupid questions
and i thank you all for your patience with me
 

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I never commited any crime and how can i watch someone so holly suffer and do nothing.
I don't think those words will stop some, only some force field would =)
Well you're not alone on earth and a lot of people have comitted a crime or more.

Luckily God paid the price for sins so there is a golden opportunity to repent and be forgiven.
 

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Slightly off-topic random thought:

The West needs Islam. The West can complain and complain but.... seriously, we are immersed in filth and degeneracy.

Does anyone actually have any ideas on how to actually do anything about it?

Secular ideologies will further the degeneracy.

Therefore, the solution has to be religious. New Age garbage promotes occultism and demonic possesion. And also degeneracy.

Christianity is like "well... ummm... you know..... it's morally superior to sit back and be a passive victim"

and so Christians (besides rare exceptions like Mrs. Rosseau) are not even pretending to be concerned with actually doing anything....

Islam is not above rolling up its sleeves and actually addressing the issues. Islam will actually get results. I don't see any other thing that would actually get results. I don't believe in an ethic of "be a passive victim and allow yourself to be victimized," "don't actually do anything".... Islam will actually get results and will actually address the moral degeneracy being pushed on those of us living in the West. The more Islam, the better. The only reason people are opposed to it is due to cultural heritage. But the West doesn't care about its own cultural heritage. The West happily has allowed its culture to be brought into the gutter. It can't get mad when a solution then has to be brought from outside.

Plus, all this does is further confirm that Islam is the actual true religion. I don't think being a passive victim=piety. I think piety demands actually addressing real-world issues and not sitting on a fence. So Islam is good. Since Christianity has embraced an ethic of being good Christian=being powerless... it has abdicated responsiblity. Since Christianity has embraced not stepping up to the plate as an ethic (except when it comes to promoting colonialism and imperialism)- someone has to take responsibility and step up to the plate. Islam should be that "someone". The kids deserve a future. Someone has to actually step up to the plate and defend their interests. Since Christianity isn't willing to do it and secularism just further promotes degeneracy- Islam is needed. People should be applauding Islam and loving Islam. Islam represents hope for an actual future for people.

People can try to debunk this thread's OP's video- however, I think it is actually the "The Bible Says Jesus is Not God".... I think that thread presents the strongest evidence I've seen thus far...... I thought that video was slightly stronger than the one here, although the one here is strong as well. In any case, if people have to go after the slightly weaker video rather than the stronger video- this just further demonstrates that Islam is intellectually superior. Intellectually superior and actually capable of getting results. So... I think it's undeniable that Islam is the one that is actually true. And is actually practical. Today's Christianity doesn't even care about being practical. I think this is why the Christian church is so feminized these days... honestly, when I think of the Christian church, I think of overweight women whose minds are off in la-la land and whose theology is based on emotions and who don't actually follow any concrete rules.

I am merely saying my thoughts on Christianity- I seriously mean nothing against Christians. But I know Christianity and these are just my thoughts. People can criticize Islam for being founded by a man of bravery all they want. To me they sound like liberals terrified of guns and who don't want to accept that struggle and conflict is part of life.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/24/church-of-sweden-to-stop-referring-to-god-as-he-or-lord
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Hate-Going-Church/dp/078523215X
http://thefrontporch.org/2016/04/three-reasons-men-dont-go-to-church/
http://www1.cbn.com/churchandministry/why-men-hate-church

I could go on and on.....

honestly I seriously agree with this guy's assessment....

 

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I am with you

But my point is if Jesus really was on the cross, and if there is something he could say to stop most from trying to free him and fight the guards,
those words are not in the bible.

We not living in Eden, we living in hell on earth. Who we been saved from til now?

I see you don't understand God's plan of salvation at all.


It is simple. Jesus Christ blotted out sins by His blood.

So if you obey His commandments He got you. But if you don't give a fuk about His commandments He will let you go.
 

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I see you don't understand God's plan of salvation at all.


It is simple. Jesus Christ blotted out sins by His blood.

So if you obey His commandments He got you. But if you don't give a fuk about His commandments He will let you go.
I try my best to obey his and gods commandments =)
 
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